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Peter Cole
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C.J.Patten wrote:
> Any websites out there with info on this comparison? I bike daily but
> nothing extreme yet. (up to 10km... will be back to doing 100+km at a time
> by the end of the summer) Wondering what would be a good bar to carry in a
> saddle pack as a road snack.
>
> I figure a banana and diluted energy drink (half Gatorade, half water) would
> do the same thing as a lot of the pricey energy bars.
>
> How do cereal bars and candy bars compare? Snickers and the Kellogg's
> Nutri-Grain strawberry bars come to mind.
>
> Opinions welcome!
>
> Chris
For that distance you don't really need anything. It takes a fast 100K
to deplete glycogen reserves. Since you're not eating for need, but
pleasure, eat something you like. The kind of stuff you mention would be
very low on my list.
> Any websites out there with info on this comparison? I bike daily but
> nothing extreme yet. (up to 10km... will be back to doing 100+km at a time
> by the end of the summer) Wondering what would be a good bar to carry in a
> saddle pack as a road snack.
>
> I figure a banana and diluted energy drink (half Gatorade, half water) would
> do the same thing as a lot of the pricey energy bars.
>
> How do cereal bars and candy bars compare? Snickers and the Kellogg's
> Nutri-Grain strawberry bars come to mind.
>
> Opinions welcome!
>
> Chris
For that distance you don't really need anything. It takes a fast 100K
to deplete glycogen reserves. Since you're not eating for need, but
pleasure, eat something you like. The kind of stuff you mention would be
very low on my list.
T
Tony Raven
Guest
Nick Kew wrote:
> Tony Raven wrote:
>
>
>>Bananas, dried fruit, cereal bars and malt loaf. All much much cheaper
>>than the sports bars
>>
>
> I'll stick with a beautiful sweet, juicy apple. If you haven't tried
> them for sustenance on a long ride, they're a world away from the less-
> than-exciting fruit you're accustomed to. And much safer to carry than
> a gooey mess (aka travelled banana).
>
> You really can't beat Granny Smith
>
They don't have the same potassium levels as a banana (c 500mg) and
potassium replenishment on a ride is important (you'll get sodium from
other sources). A banana has less water and fifty percent more food
energy than an apple. Compare what you get at http://snipurl.com/fiwj
and http://snipurl.com/fiwk
--
Tony
"Don't argue the matter, the difficulties will argue for themselves"
-W.S. Churchill
> Tony Raven wrote:
>
>
>>Bananas, dried fruit, cereal bars and malt loaf. All much much cheaper
>>than the sports bars
>>
>
> I'll stick with a beautiful sweet, juicy apple. If you haven't tried
> them for sustenance on a long ride, they're a world away from the less-
> than-exciting fruit you're accustomed to. And much safer to carry than
> a gooey mess (aka travelled banana).
>
> You really can't beat Granny Smith
>
They don't have the same potassium levels as a banana (c 500mg) and
potassium replenishment on a ride is important (you'll get sodium from
other sources). A banana has less water and fifty percent more food
energy than an apple. Compare what you get at http://snipurl.com/fiwj
and http://snipurl.com/fiwk
--
Tony
"Don't argue the matter, the difficulties will argue for themselves"
-W.S. Churchill
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wafflycat
Guest
"Tony Raven" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Bananas, dried fruit, cereal bars and malt loaf. All much much cheaper
> than the sports bars
>
Indeed, but as sports bars go, Torq bars in dried banana or the apple &
raspberry are yummy. SiS bars in cherry & vanilla are rather scrummy too...
Cheers, helen s
news:[email protected]...
>
> Bananas, dried fruit, cereal bars and malt loaf. All much much cheaper
> than the sports bars
>
Indeed, but as sports bars go, Torq bars in dried banana or the apple &
raspberry are yummy. SiS bars in cherry & vanilla are rather scrummy too...
Cheers, helen s
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Pete Whelan
Guest
Jon Senior wrote:
> C.J.Patten wrote:
> > Help me out here... "malt-loaf?" That's gotta be UK specific...
>
>> Though, as an alternative to protein bars, "meat loaf" might work.
>
>
> Although this will probably provide more questions than answers:
>
> http://www.slackjaw.co.uk/maltloaf.html
>
> And if you fancy making some (I haven't tried this):
>
> http://countrylife.net/pages/recipes/648.html
>
> Soreen Malt Loaf has an energy density about equal to an energy bar, but
> has two distinct advantages. It's cheaper; It tastes nice.
>
> While the latter may be a matter of personal taste, it does seem to suit
> the taste buds of a larger proportion of people than energy bars.
>
> Jon
I tend to go for an even plainer malt loaf, with fewer additives than
the Soreen one - Tesco Value Malt Loaf 22p a shot.
> C.J.Patten wrote:
> > Help me out here... "malt-loaf?" That's gotta be UK specific...
>
>> Though, as an alternative to protein bars, "meat loaf" might work.
>
>
> Although this will probably provide more questions than answers:
>
> http://www.slackjaw.co.uk/maltloaf.html
>
> And if you fancy making some (I haven't tried this):
>
> http://countrylife.net/pages/recipes/648.html
>
> Soreen Malt Loaf has an energy density about equal to an energy bar, but
> has two distinct advantages. It's cheaper; It tastes nice.
>
> While the latter may be a matter of personal taste, it does seem to suit
> the taste buds of a larger proportion of people than energy bars.
>
> Jon
I tend to go for an even plainer malt loaf, with fewer additives than
the Soreen one - Tesco Value Malt Loaf 22p a shot.
S
Sandor
Guest
In article <[email protected]>,
wafflycat <remove celebrities and change caps to obvious> wrote:
>
>"Tony Raven" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>>
>> Bananas, dried fruit, cereal bars and malt loaf. All much much cheaper
>> than the sports bars
>>
>
>Indeed, but as sports bars go, Torq bars in dried banana or the apple &
>raspberry are yummy. SiS bars in cherry & vanilla are rather scrummy too...
>
>Cheers, helen s
Hi Helen - do you have a 'Net link to those two things? I can't
find 'Torq', or 'SiS', specific to sports bars. If not, thanks
anyway, I'll keep looking.
S
wafflycat <remove celebrities and change caps to obvious> wrote:
>
>"Tony Raven" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>>
>> Bananas, dried fruit, cereal bars and malt loaf. All much much cheaper
>> than the sports bars
>>
>
>Indeed, but as sports bars go, Torq bars in dried banana or the apple &
>raspberry are yummy. SiS bars in cherry & vanilla are rather scrummy too...
>
>Cheers, helen s
Hi Helen - do you have a 'Net link to those two things? I can't
find 'Torq', or 'SiS', specific to sports bars. If not, thanks
anyway, I'll keep looking.
S
T
Tony Raven
Guest
Sandor wrote:
>
>
> Hi Helen - do you have a 'Net link to those two things? I can't
> find 'Torq', or 'SiS', specific to sports bars. If not, thanks
> anyway, I'll keep looking.
>
http://www.scienceinsport.com/
http://www.torq.ltd.uk/
--
Tony
"I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
Anon
>
>
> Hi Helen - do you have a 'Net link to those two things? I can't
> find 'Torq', or 'SiS', specific to sports bars. If not, thanks
> anyway, I'll keep looking.
>
http://www.scienceinsport.com/
http://www.torq.ltd.uk/
--
Tony
"I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
Anon
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wafflycat
Guest
"Sandor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Hi Helen - do you have a 'Net link to those two things? I can't
> find 'Torq', or 'SiS', specific to sports bars. If not, thanks
> anyway, I'll keep looking.
>
> S
>
Torq bars can be found at
http://www.torq.ltd.uk/
SiS bars can be found at
http://www.scienceinsport.com/
Cheers, helen s
news:[email protected]...
>
> Hi Helen - do you have a 'Net link to those two things? I can't
> find 'Torq', or 'SiS', specific to sports bars. If not, thanks
> anyway, I'll keep looking.
>
> S
>
Torq bars can be found at
http://www.torq.ltd.uk/
SiS bars can be found at
http://www.scienceinsport.com/
Cheers, helen s
C
C.J.Patten
Guest
"Sandor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Some of those 'bars' have some questionable components.
<snip>
> It's like those cereals that tout 'extra vitamins'. They just
> spray on the cheapest possible vitamins (typically Bcomplex)
> and then they can advertize - no need to balance, or prove no
> degradation upon storage.
Agreed 100%. They seem to do that with breakfast cereals and fruit "drinks"
(note the conspicuous absence of the word "juice.") "Let's add some cheap
vitamin C and put a big star-burst on the label!"
(shaking head)
> Overall it's much better to make your own, I think - far
> superior to anything you can buy, and no hidden, or bad
> 'mystery' ingredients, binders or preservatives, like BHT.
I tend to agree though there are obviously some bars out there that aren't
horrible.
I'm not independently wealthy so I count my pennies and it seems making your
own is more economical - nevermind knowing exactly what's going in to them.
> Might be worth the trouble to go by an organic Health Food
> Store and stock up on dried apples, banana slices and figs, and
> apricots, and soforth. Just a thought.
Sho'nuff'! We also have a small fruit and vegetable garden to work with so
that could be an interesting source.
Kale bar anyone? :9
> Some of those 'bars' have some questionable components.
<snip>
> It's like those cereals that tout 'extra vitamins'. They just
> spray on the cheapest possible vitamins (typically Bcomplex)
> and then they can advertize - no need to balance, or prove no
> degradation upon storage.
Agreed 100%. They seem to do that with breakfast cereals and fruit "drinks"
(note the conspicuous absence of the word "juice.") "Let's add some cheap
vitamin C and put a big star-burst on the label!"
(shaking head)
> Overall it's much better to make your own, I think - far
> superior to anything you can buy, and no hidden, or bad
> 'mystery' ingredients, binders or preservatives, like BHT.
I tend to agree though there are obviously some bars out there that aren't
horrible.
I'm not independently wealthy so I count my pennies and it seems making your
own is more economical - nevermind knowing exactly what's going in to them.
> Might be worth the trouble to go by an organic Health Food
> Store and stock up on dried apples, banana slices and figs, and
> apricots, and soforth. Just a thought.
Sho'nuff'! We also have a small fruit and vegetable garden to work with so
that could be an interesting source.
Kale bar anyone? :9
C
C.J.Patten
Guest
"jj" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:30:55 -0400, "C.J.Patten"
<snipped very cool peanut butter cup recipe>
>What is the brand name of your black slow conched chocolate? I'm always on
> the lookout for the good stuff. ;-)
Oh boy... I'll have to go see if we have one...we may have eaten this week's
ration....<rummaging in pantry>
"Wawel" - Polish or Czech. 90% cocoa. Frankly, this one's slightly bitter
for my tastes. We normally have a different brand - I *think* it's the "Sao
Tome" at around 3/4 cocoa that Claire mentioned though if memory serves
there are several versions 50%, 75%, 95%...
Man, that's good stuff. Oooo... my muscles are bulging and a feel like
rescuing Olive-Oil.
The acid test for me is "what would you like to drink with that?"
Good chocolate demands fruit juice, wine or spirits.
Crappy chocolate bars, Joe Louis' or Little Debbie Snacks need milk.
(he says downing a glass of cranberry juice
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:30:55 -0400, "C.J.Patten"
<snipped very cool peanut butter cup recipe>
>What is the brand name of your black slow conched chocolate? I'm always on
> the lookout for the good stuff. ;-)
Oh boy... I'll have to go see if we have one...we may have eaten this week's
ration....<rummaging in pantry>
"Wawel" - Polish or Czech. 90% cocoa. Frankly, this one's slightly bitter
for my tastes. We normally have a different brand - I *think* it's the "Sao
Tome" at around 3/4 cocoa that Claire mentioned though if memory serves
there are several versions 50%, 75%, 95%...
Man, that's good stuff. Oooo... my muscles are bulging and a feel like
rescuing Olive-Oil.
The acid test for me is "what would you like to drink with that?"
Good chocolate demands fruit juice, wine or spirits.
Crappy chocolate bars, Joe Louis' or Little Debbie Snacks need milk.
(he says downing a glass of cranberry juice
T
TomP
Guest
A couple of servings of Ensure would do the trick.
http://www.myhealthpro.net/cgi-bin/store.pl?bai=&a=disp&pid=300&cv=x
click on Detailed Information to see what you will get.
"C.J.Patten" wrote:
> Any websites out there with info on this comparison? I bike daily but
> nothing extreme yet. (up to 10km... will be back to doing 100+km at a time
> by the end of the summer) Wondering what would be a good bar to carry in a
> saddle pack as a road snack.
>
> I figure a banana and diluted energy drink (half Gatorade, half water) would
> do the same thing as a lot of the pricey energy bars.
>
> How do cereal bars and candy bars compare? Snickers and the Kellogg's
> Nutri-Grain strawberry bars come to mind.
>
> Opinions welcome!
>
> Chris
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http://www.myhealthpro.net/cgi-bin/store.pl?bai=&a=disp&pid=300&cv=x
click on Detailed Information to see what you will get.
"C.J.Patten" wrote:
> Any websites out there with info on this comparison? I bike daily but
> nothing extreme yet. (up to 10km... will be back to doing 100+km at a time
> by the end of the summer) Wondering what would be a good bar to carry in a
> saddle pack as a road snack.
>
> I figure a banana and diluted energy drink (half Gatorade, half water) would
> do the same thing as a lot of the pricey energy bars.
>
> How do cereal bars and candy bars compare? Snickers and the Kellogg's
> Nutri-Grain strawberry bars come to mind.
>
> Opinions welcome!
>
> Chris
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C.J.Patten
Guest
I tried a "gel" today - a "Clif Shot, Cola Buzzzz with Caffeine."
Are walls supposed to melt when you've had one of those?
<jitter...shake...twitch>
Are walls supposed to melt when you've had one of those?
<jitter...shake...twitch>
