Science Proves Mountain Biking Is More Harmful Than Hiking - Page 3

Mike Vandeman wrote:

As a president of Rand Corporation has observed, "If you
punish the data enough they will tell you anything."

Pete H

--
Either everyone has rights or some have privileges. It's
really that simple. Walt Kelly

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 20:57:19 +0100, "Tetsuo Shima" <TetsuoShima@hotmail.com>
wrote:

.> That's what were here for: to discuss mountain biking.
. .Wrong: It's for you to enforce your beliefs on others.
You can't change .the world by forcing others to your way
of thinking.

And how do I "force" you to my way of thinking? I thought
that you all had free will.... Are you now admitting that
you are all robots, unable to think for yourself?
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 12:31:51 -0500, "di" <di0000@cox.net> wrote:

. .> .> That's not called "smart". It's called
"prejudiced", which we knew .already. So I .> guess you
don't need to read Shakespeare, after the first play. Of
course, .he .> would just be repeating the same thing.... .
. .Shakespeare you are "not". Prejudiced is forming an
opinion of someone .without knowing them, we know you very
well from your posts, rants, and name .calling, our
opinions are based on facts as you yourself have presented
them .time and time again.

Prejudice by any other name.... Just for fun, how about
telling us what I say in that paper, without reading it.
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:07:21 -0400, PMH <pmhilton@mfx.net> wrote:

.Mike Vandeman wrote: . .As a president of Rand Corporation
has observed, "If you punish the data .enough they will tell
you anything."

That's exactly what the mountain bikers did, in order to
"prove" mountain biking no worse than hiking.

.Pete H

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previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road
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Mike Vandeman wrote:
> Prejudice by any other name.... Just for fun, how about
> telling us what I say in that paper, without reading it.

Oooh, this could be fun!

Bill "who first?" S.

Jeff Strickland wrote:

{Post is over *50 KBs*, so I'll trim all but the
useful parts}

TYVM.

Bill "needs a longer mouse pad" S.

"S o r n i" <sorni@bite-me.san.rr.com> wrote in message
news:BvzIc.38809$Fy.5307@twister.socal.rr.com...
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> {Post is over *50 KBs*, so I'll trim all but the
> useful parts}
>
> TYVM.
>
> Bill "needs a longer mouse pad" S.
>
>
I believe that it is not proper ettiquite to trim from the
very first post. Sorry if I should have trimmed, but I
replied to most of what Mike had to say, so trimming those
portions would not have been proper anyway. True, I should
have trimmed the portion to which I did not respond, perhaps
this would have saved a few K on the file size.

Vice President Cheney invoked a phrase last week that seems
appropriate here ...

Jeff Strickland wrote:
> "S o r n i" <sorni@bite-me.san.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:BvzIc.38809$Fy.5307@twister.socal.rr.com...
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>> {Post is over *50 KBs*, so I'll trim all but the
>> useful parts}
>>
>> TYVM.
>>
>> Bill "needs a longer mouse pad" S.
>>
> I believe that it is not proper ettiquite to trim from the
> very first post. Sorry if I should have trimmed, but I
> replied to most of what Mike had to say, so trimming those
> portions would not have been proper anyway. True, I should
> have trimmed the portion to which I did not respond,
> perhaps this would have saved a few K on the file size.

I wasn't saying YOU should have trimmed, Jeff; I was saying
your entire REPLY was a waste of time and bandwidth. (When
are you going to get it?!? Other than an occasional poke or
snicker, there is absolutely no good reason -- apart from
being new -- to engage the envirowhackoff in dialogue,
BECAUSE HE'S INCAPABLE OF IT.)

> Vice President Cheney invoked a phrase last week that
> seems appropriate here ...

Indeed -- but I doubt that you can pronounce the words with
MV's hook so deep in your gullet.

Bill "roll around with the pig if you must, but why make us
watch?" S.

.
>
> Prejudice by any other name.... Just for fun, how about
> telling us what I
say in
> that paper, without reading it.

I don't care what you said in your paper, I already know
what your objectives were. You have already destroyed your
credibility by past performances, therefore rendering future
discussions useless. Why should I waste my time reading a
lengthy paper, the subject line of your NG post already told
me all I wanted to know "Science Proves Mountain Biking is
More Harmful than Hiking". Also the fact that you posted it
to this NG with this subject line was only to attack bikers,
not to promote your issue.

Mike you are a phony, you are not even an
environmentalist, what you are is a radical only
interested in promoting a far out idea that you have
somehow dreamed up. An idea that is so ridiculous it could
never be achieved, but you have became so obsessed with it
you have lost contact with reality.

That's my opinion and I'm sticking with it.

Mike Vandeman wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 12:31:51 -0500, "di"
> <di0000@cox.net> wrote:
>
> . .> .> That's not called "smart". It's called
> "prejudiced", which we knew .already. So I .> guess you
> don't need to read Shakespeare, after the first play. Of
> course, .he .> would just be repeating the same thing....
> . . .Shakespeare you are "not". Prejudiced is forming an
> opinion of someone .without knowing them, we know you very
> well from your posts, rants, and name .calling, our
> opinions are based on facts as you yourself have presented
> them .time and time again.
>
> Prejudice by any other name.... Just for fun, how about
> telling us what I say in that paper, without reading it.

You say, "bah bah goo goo I miss my Mommy! I want my Mommy!"

In a condensed form, anyway.

> ===
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-
> limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent
> the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road
> construction.)
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande