race report: my first half marathon
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Race: Colon Cancer Challenge Half Marathon
Venue: Central Park. Course does 2 6 mile loops then finishes the same way as
the NY marathon
Weather: 34 degrees, fairly clear sky
Weapons:
(1) A 4 mile performance that indicated that I could do
about 6:13 pace
(2) *Awesome* crowd support from my teammates
(3) Asics Tiger Paw shoes -- worked for me in the 4 mile, so
"don't mess with success", I thought. The shoes had felt
like they should do fine for the half, for me.
(4) Solid interval workouts on the track, and tempo runs
that were getting fast, but still felt like true
tempo runs
(5) Lightweight clothing -- this time, I went with shorts
and t-shirt
(6) Advice to learn to drink on the run. One of my friends
who's done research on hydration told my that water
was more important than CHO, and I should learn to
drink on the run.
(7) Gel Packs and new Sugoi shorts with Gel pockets (only
ate one gel as it turned out)
Battle Plan:
(8) Hit the 6 mile mark in 38:00 (6:20)
(9) Be flexible: the prediction formula gave me a good time,
so I was prepared to just go with it if a faster speed
felt right on the day.
So armed with this, I went into battle.
Obviously, I was damn cold at the start with my singlet and
shorts. Thankfully, the race eventually started. It was an
unusually orderly start. Spent the first mile warming up.
Felt nice and warm after a mile. The marker came by in 6:15.
Wasn't bothered, it was slightly downhill. Second uphill
mile came in 6:26, for a total of 12:41 -- a 6:20 pace as
planned. At this stage, a teammate, Alex, comes by. He's an
experienced runner, and races faster than me. I figured I'd
try and stick with him, since he was running at about my
pace. Mile 3 comes up in 6:11. At this stage, I tried taking
a cup of water. Ended up wearing about
10/3 of it, but then, I didn't lose any speed. My
drinking skills would not substantially improve in the
course of the race.
For the next 3 miles, I ran with Alex, trading spots (I
tend to surge a little on the downhills) but basically
staying together.
6 miles in about 37:40, splits (steady splits,
unsteady terrain)
11:15 6:26 6:11 6:17 6:19 6:09
So the second loop began. I was mostly interested in
seeing if I could match the splits on my first loop. First
2 miles were 6:14 and 6:21. In the second of those, I was
pulling away from my pack, and Alex, and wondering if this
was a good idea (I'd never finished in front of Alex in a
race), but was later joined by him and another teammate at
the 9 mile mark, where I hit a 6:12 split. The horrible
uphill mile (5th) went slowly this time around, 6:24
(compared to 6:19). "Slow" as it was, it was my average
pace for the recent 10
mile. This gave me a kick up the butt to push the pace all
the same. So drawing from my interval sessions, I
concentrated, maintained turnover, relaxed my upper
body, and gave a good toe-off with each step. I was
rewarded with a 6:05 12th mile, then a 5:59 mile 13.
Finished up for a time of 1:21:49.
Splits: Loop 1: 6:15 6:26 6:11 6:17 6:19 6:09 (37:40) Loop
2: 6:14 6:21 6:12 6:15 6:24 6:04 (37:30) Finish: 5:59 0:38
I suppose the last split makes that a few seconds per
mile negative.
Time: 1:21:49 AG%: 72.9% (just .1% under the 4 miler)
<Howard Dean Scream> Yeeeeeeaaaarrgggggghhhh!</>
but I still need to work on getting the water from my cup
into my mouth (and not on my shirt)
Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
Donovan Rebbechi <abuse@aol.com> wrote in
news:slrnc5a21p.a49.abuse@panix2.panix.com:
> Race: Colon Cancer Challenge Half Marathon Venue:
> Central Park. Course does 2 6 mile loops then finishes
> the same way as the NY marathon Weather: 34 degrees,
> fairly clear sky
>
> Time: 1:21:49 AG%: 72.9% (just .1% under the 4 miler)
>
> <Howard Dean Scream> Yeeeeeeaaaarrgggggghhhh!</>
Way to go! I am impressed. Not only with the scream, but
with your time. Was this race part of a marathon plan?
This equates to about a 2:53 marathon (but I'm sure you
knew that).
-Phil
In article <slrnc5a21p.a49.abuse@panix2.panix.com>,
Donovan Rebbechi <abuse@aol.com> wrote:
> Race: Colon Cancer Challenge Half Marathon Venue:
> Central Park. Course does 2 6 mile loops then finishes
> the same way as the NY marathon Weather: 34 degrees,
> fairly clear sky
>
<much snipped but very cool to read>
hey, congrats on the HM! excellent splits and great time on
the race. bask in the glow of your great results... and
start thinking about your next one. any thoughts of a full
marathon down the road?
Cam
"Donovan Rebbechi" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message
> Race: Colon Cancer Challenge Half Marathon Venue:
> Central Park. Course does 2 6 mile loops then finishes
> the same way
as
> the NY marathon Weather: 34 degrees, fairly clear sky
Wow! I didn't know you were that fast, man! What's your 5k
time? Or 10k for that matter?
Congrats on the choice of wearing the Tiger Paws for a
long race.
cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON) www.allfalldown.org "The most
insecure people are the ones you see, putting other people
down constantly."
In article <Xns94ACD9DA1F15Aseilogramp@216.77.188.18>, Phil M. wrote:
> Donovan Rebbechi <abuse@aol.com> wrote in
> news:slrnc5a21p.a49.abuse@panix2.panix.com:
>
>> Race: Colon Cancer Challenge Half Marathon Venue:
>> Central Park. Course does 2 6 mile loops then finishes
>> the same way as the NY marathon Weather: 34 degrees,
>> fairly clear sky
>
>>
>> Time: 1:21:49 AG%: 72.9% (just .1% under the 4 miler)
>>
>> <Howard Dean Scream> Yeeeeeeaaaarrgggggghhhh!</>
>
> Way to go! I am impressed. Not only with the scream, but
> with your time. Was this race part of a marathon plan?
> This equates to about a 2:53 marathon (but I'm sure you
> knew that).
Thanks! Because I'm with a running club now, my racing plan
involves the running all the local club points races (and a
few of the shorter races in addition to that). This works
well for me -- these races cover a good variety of
distances.
My main reason to do some other short races is that I think
I have an outside chance of an award in them (whereas the
points races draw all the fast runners, so no chance of me
placing in those). And because I like short distances.
I'm not really starting marathon specific training until
later this year, but the schedule fits in nicely with the
marathon (itself a points race) by putting in the Staten
Island half marathon 3 weeks before the marathon. The Staten
Half is usually what the local runners use as their big
"marathon predictor" (too bad the course was long last year!
boy did that piss everyone off)
As for predicting a 2:53 -- well, it depends on how the
weather is and all that. The "general purpose" multipliers
are 2.1 (optimistic) and 2.2 (conservative) which brackets
it at about 2:52-3:00. But I saw some people do worse than
2.2 last year because of a combination of tough (hot)
weather, poor pacing, inadequate training (hopefully will
not an issue for me) and simply crashing psychologically.
Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
In article <cam_wilson-7C5928.21474614032004@news.bellglobal.com>, onemarathon wrote:
> In article <slrnc5a21p.a49.abuse@panix2.panix.com>,
> Donovan Rebbechi <abuse@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Race: Colon Cancer Challenge Half Marathon Venue:
>> Central Park. Course does 2 6 mile loops then finishes
>> the same way as the NY marathon Weather: 34 degrees,
>> fairly clear sky
>>
>
><much snipped but very cool to read>
>
> hey, congrats on the HM! excellent splits and great time
> on the race. bask in the glow of your great results... and
> start thinking about your next one. any thoughts of a full
> marathon down the road?
The New York Marathon is in November, and I've met the 9
qualifying races + NYRR membership requirements -- so how
could I refuse ? (-;
My marathon training cycle will begin in June.
Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
In article <b%85c.6756$n37.634603@read2.cgocable.net>, SwStudio wrote:
> "Donovan Rebbechi" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message
>> Race: Colon Cancer Challenge Half Marathon Venue:
>> Central Park. Course does 2 6 mile loops then finishes
>> the same way
> as
>> the NY marathon Weather: 34 degrees, fairly clear sky
>
>
> Wow! I didn't know you were that fast, man!
Slowly recovering/rediscovering my speed (-; The last 6
months has been the first time I've held down half-
respectable milage for any length of time.
> What's your 5k time? Or 10k for that matter?
My performances have steadily improved over the last
few months.
Here are the last few:
11/03 4M 24:28 6:07
12/03 10k 40:11 6:28 (slow course due to snow)
13/03 4M 24:16 6:04
14/04 10M 64:03 6:24
15/04 1M 5:06
16/04 4M 23:13 5:48
17/04 13.1M 81:49 6:14
I figure this (the half and the recent 4 miler) puts my 10k
time just under
18:00 and my 5k at about 17:45.
Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
Great race, Donovan! Congrats!
>The New York Marathon is in November, and I've met the 9
>qualifying races + NYRR membership requirements -- so how
>could I refuse ? (-;
Plus now you've met the guaranteed-entry standard in the HM.
So you'll have to run it twice!
Again, nice job.
P.S. I'm gonna enter the NYCM lottery myself, hope to see
you there!
--
Brian P. Baresch Fort Worth, Texas, USA Professional editing
and proofreading
If you're going through hell, keep going. --Winston
Churchill
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> Time: 1:21:49 AG%: 72.9% (just .1% under the 4 miler)
>
> <Howard Dean Scream> Yeeeeeeaaaarrgggggghhhh!</>
Well done Donovan. I'm still looking for my first sub 1:30.
I was interested to read what you *planned* to do about
hydration and what *actually* happened. It's my feeling that
unless it's warm, there's precious little to be gained by
trying to gulp down a few mouthfuls of water in a most races
up to half marathon (particularly if it's served in cups).
The actual amounts that you can swallow I reckon are too
small to be physiologically useful and may turn out to be
more of a hindrance than a help. I'll never forget the most
god-awful sidestitch I developed last year in Inverness so I
simply didn't bother drinking this year and don't feel
(although clearly I can't *know*) that I suffered in any way
because of it. Bottled water is much easier to drink on the
run and perhaps if it had been on offer, I might have taken
water on board.
Any, congratulations on you time. Looks like I've got a bit
of catching up to do!
Tim
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In article <c347gq$23baqo$1@ID-81538.news.uni-berlin.de>, Tim Downie wrote:
> Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
>> Time: 1:21:49 AG%: 72.9% (just .1% under the 4 miler)
>>
>> <Howard Dean Scream> Yeeeeeeaaaarrgggggghhhh!</>
>
> Well done Donovan. I'm still looking for my first
> sub 1:30.
Thanks. Looks to me like you could do it -- you'd want to be
in the 19:30 or so range for 5k, with good supporting milage
(50 or so for the half). So you're not far off.
> I was interested to read what you *planned* to do about
> hydration and what *actually* happened. It's my feeling
> that unless it's warm, there's precious little to be
> gained by trying to gulp down a few mouthfuls of water in
> a most races up to half marathon (particularly if it's
> served in cups). The actual amounts that you can swallow I
> reckon are too small to be physiologically useful and may
> turn out to be more of a hindrance than a help.
My experience has been that climate is at least as important
as distance -- a hot, humid 10k could easily produce more
sweat than a dry half. But the guy who told me I needed to
learn to drink is a former runner and an expert on the topic
(Noakes cites him several times in the hydration chapter),
so I wasn't going to second-guess the advice. I'd estimate I
got about 700ml in the course of the race.
Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
great job. I'm always jealous of those who run in NY. I love
CP. My first race in NY and my first half was Grete's gallop
back in '98 on cross training, and again in '99. Now that
I'm dedicating this year to running I'm out to shatter my
time at Grete's, focusing on half marathons next fall and
spring '05.
Wow, great job Donovan! Well-planned too! Do another HD
scream!! ;-) If it's any consolation, anything faster than
marathon pace drinking usually gets all over me, too. But
Big Congrats on a great race!!
Teresa in AZ
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> Race: Colon Cancer Challenge Half Marathon Venue: Central
> Park. Course does 2 6 mile loops then finishes the same
> way as the NY marathon
>
> Splits: Loop 1: 6:15 6:26 6:11 6:17 6:19 6:09 (37:40) Loop
> 2: 6:14 6:21 6:12 6:15 6:24 6:04 (37:30) Finish: 5:59 0:38
>
> Time: 1:21:49 AG%: 72.9% (just .1% under the 4 miler)
>
> <Howard Dean Scream> Yeeeeeeaaaarrgggggghhhh!</>
>
> but I still need to work on getting the water from my cup
> into my mouth (and not on my shirt)
>
> Cheers,
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> I'd estimate I got about 700ml in the course of the race.
Out of interest, were these paper or plastic cups? With
paper cups I think you're just about in with a chance of
drinking some of the contents. Plastic cups hold so little
and are tricky to manipulate whilst running, I'd be very
surprised if you could get more than a 100ml down you per
cup. Now unless you're falling over water stations every
couple of miles, that's going to be hard to do which makes
me wonder if you've perhaps overestimated your intake.
Unfortunately most race organisers here go for the cheaper
plastic cup option rather than paper cups.
Tim
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In article <c34nte$23b5bg$1@ID-81538.news.uni-berlin.de>, Tim Downie wrote:
> Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
>> I'd estimate I got about 700ml in the course of the race.
>
> Out of interest, were these paper or plastic cups? With
> paper cups I think you're just about in with a chance of
> drinking some of the contents. Plastic cups hold so little
> and are tricky to manipulate whilst running, I'd be very
> surprised if you could get more than a 100ml down you per
> cup. Now
They were small paper cups. Your numbers are about right --
I'd estimate about 100ml per cup with the exception of one
stop where I slowed down a bit and pretty much got a full
cup down. I took water pretty frequently.
I agree about the cups making this hard -- when I do the
marathon, I'm going to make sure that my support crew is on-
site with a good drink-bottle for me.
Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 01:34:49 +0000 (UTC), Donovan Rebbechi
<abuse@aol.com> wrote:
>Race: Colon Cancer Challenge Half Marathon
[very coherent report went here]
>Time: 1:21:49 AG%: 72.9% (just .1% under the 4 miler)
Very nice! As others have said: I knew you were fast, but I
didn't know you were *that* fast.
><Howard Dean Scream> Yeeeeeeaaaarrgggggghhhh!</>
I like this better without the element tags :-)
>but I still need to work on getting the water from my cup
>into my mouth (and not on my shirt)
I can definitely sympathize with you here. I still can't
drink well on the run. No matter how I crunch the cup, I
still end up with water on me, on my clothes (not a big deal
when it's hot), down my windpipe, up my nose. It takes so
long to get any water into me that I'm well out of the ok-to-throw-the-cup-
down area before the water's gone, so I end up carrying the
cup to the next aid station so no one will think I'm a
litterbug.
My quasi-solution to the problem is simply not to take water
during races that last less than an hour and a quarter.
Luckily for you, your half-marathon is fast approaching that
point :-) Good job!
Karen
Even at my modest speed (1.41 for a half) water is a refreshment rather than
a necessity on most days. It's sometimes quite nice to wash out your mouth
at about 15 k. That's all.
J
"Donovan Rebbechi" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message
news:slrnc5ba01.bnh.abuse@panix2.panix.com...
> In article <c347gq$23baqo$1@ID-81538.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> Tim Downie
wrote:
> > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> >
> >> Time: 1:21:49 AG%: 72.9% (just .1% under the 4 miler)
> >>
> >> <Howard Dean Scream> Yeeeeeeaaaarrgggggghhhh!</>
> >
> > Well done Donovan. I'm still looking for my first
> > sub 1:30.
>
> Thanks. Looks to me like you could do it -- you'd want to
> be in the 19:30
or
> so range for 5k, with good supporting milage (50 or so for
> the half). So
you're
> not far off.
>
> > I was interested to read what you *planned* to do about
> > hydration and
what
> > *actually* happened. It's my feeling that unless it's
> > warm, there's precious little to be gained by trying to
> > gulp down a few mouthfuls of
water
> > in a most races up to half marathon (particularly if
> > it's served in
cups).
> > The actual amounts that you can swallow I reckon are too
> > small to be physiologically useful and may turn out to
> > be more of a hindrance than a help.
>
> My experience has been that climate is at least as
> important as
distance -- a
> hot, humid 10k could easily produce more sweat than a dry
> half. But the
guy who
> told me I needed to learn to drink is a former runner and
> an expert on the topic (Noakes cites him several times in
> the hydration chapter), so I
wasn't
> going to second-guess the advice. I'd estimate I got about
> 700ml in the
course
> of the race.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
In article <slrnc5a21p.a49.abuse@panix2.panix.com>,
Donovan Rebbechi <abuse@aol.com> wrote:
> Finished up for a time of 1:21:49.
Great time for a first half - splits looked veyr well
judged too.
Andrew
Donovan - a great result! You surprised me with that time.
Well done.
Anthony.
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