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Tim Downie
  
Well, I'm annoyed. I ended up 8 seconds on the wrong side
of my predicted finishing time (1:31:14). In my defence I
would say that Inverness isn't the flattest of courses and
it was darned windy yesterday, the wind alone probably
accounting for over a minute. So, at the end of the day,
I'm not too upset.

We took a minibus load of runners (8 from our club + one ex-
club member) up the A9 to Inverness yesterday, leaving Troon
just after 7 am. The weather was filthy with rain most of
the way up. As we neared Inverness however, the skies
started to clear and by the time we'd registered, changed,
toileted and warmed up, we had blue sky and sunshine. It was
even starting to feel warm so off came the long sleeves and
we lined up in singlets and shorts.

My race plan was to run as close to 7 minute miles as I
could for the first
1/2 and then pick up the pace (if possible) for the second
1/2. Whilst I knew I ought to be able to manage it my only
recent race experience at
2/sub7 pace has been in 5Ks which doesn't quite give you the
reassurance you want that you'll be able to hold the pace
over a 1/2 marathon.

The first mile of the course runs down river (the Ness) and
with the wind behind us I was being extra careful not to go
out too fast. After a bit of pace adjustment (i.e. slowing
down) I hit the first mile marker at 6:59 which I was
pleased about. We turned our first corner over the bridge
across the Ness and headed back upstream head on into the
wind. Unfortunately, due to the fact that I'd slowed
significantly in that first mile, my pace was now too slow.
Mile 2 came up in 7:15. :-( I wasn't too worried however and
decided that if I was going to run any parts too slow, far
better to do it early rather than late.

For the next two miles I picked up the pace to 7:07.
Between the 3rd and fourth mile there's a signnificant
climb so again, I wasn't too concerend. The fifth mile came
in 6:59 and the sixth in 6:43. I hit the seventh mile at
49:00 dead (a 6:48 mile) and from then on, concentrated on
keeping my pace under the 7 mpm. The weather btw, which had
started out sunny and warm had turned dark, windy and then
it started to rain.

From 10 miles onwards I realised that all was not well with
my guts and the harder I pushed, the harder *they* pushed
(if you know what I mean). An unwelcome distraction at this
point in the race and I started to curse all the high fibre
carrot and celery sticks that I had munched at a dinner
party the night before. Still, with cheeks clenched, and
aided by the wind (not *mine*, you know what I mean) and
downhill stretches, that wasn't too hard and the only real
problem came when we crossed back over the main bridge and
retraced our steps back into the teeth of the wind (which
was now much stronger). I managed to hold my pace to the end
and finished in 1:31:22.

(Full results at
http://www.invernesshalfmarathon.co.uk/2004_FO.htm)

A sub 1:30 would have been nice and if it hadn't been
for the wind I might just have scraped it (although I
may be kidding myself.) Overall, I'm pretty pleased with
the result.

Although there were three water stations on the course I
didn't feel the need to stop at any of them. Unless it's a
warm day. I'm really not convinced that the few mouthfuls of
water that one can gulp down in a half marathon are of any
use whatsoever. Of course if it's hot then that changes
things. Ditto with regard to gels etc. Again, I'm not
convinced that they would have made any difference for a
runner like myself over that distance.

Lessons learnt?

3.) *Don't* munch you way through a bowl of carrot & celery
sticks the night before a 1/2 marathon! From now on, it's
going to be a low fibre diet the preceeding day for me.
Because I have had problems like this before I had taken
imodium (loperamide) pre-race but it would seem that the
competition was just too great.

4.) Just because you hit the first mile marker at your
expected time, it *doesn't* necessarily mean that you're
running at your planned race pace. Clearly I ran the first
half mile too fast and the next too slow to compensate and
ended up with the right time but wrong pace for the next
mile.

3.) Not so much a lesson as an observation. I took some
Slimfast for my immediate post run rescucitation and once
again, my legs feel great. It's the third time I've used
it after long/hard runs and my impression is that it does
seem to aid recovery. Of course, it might just mean I
didn't really push myself hard enough. ;-)

Splits: 1 6:59 2 7:15 (ugh!) 3 7:07 4 7:07 (From 1 to
3.5miles was all either uphill or head on into the wind) 5
6:59 6 6:43 7 6:48 8 6:58 9 6:55 10 6:48 11 missed 12
13:58 13 6:56
4.1 43:37

Finishing time 1:31:22

Tim

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Tom Wheeler
  
The chosen one? not worthy.hands in prayer waist high and a
bow. once a few years back.I saw tom.H.Here a boot. well 1
too many it is tom house? (sorry lost in space agen)
solution still in works.>now different time. cleveland ohio
doing rock and roll hall of fame No one re turns calls, so
who to say what can and can't be said? here soon. (sort of)
they say 1/2 million a year visit. if 10 bucks a shot or
free. not sure? now? Hard to say. Got things to do. pick up
weights and set up star weight outside area. I wish I could
run like that. well maybe not the wind part or my own name
calling. all not true I guest.maybe once I build up my once
bad self. I be a 10 min mile runner agen. butt one strong
one. with abbs this time. (maybe agen) hard to say..(sorry
agen) god speed rr. next respond please.

Tim Downie
  
Tom Wheeler wrote:
> The chosen one? not worthy.hands in prayer waist high
> and a bow.

Hey, don't go overboard Tom. A simple "well done" will
suffice. ;-)

Good luck with the painting and running.

Tim
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Doug Freese
  
Tim Downie wrote:

> Well, I'm annoyed. I ended up 8 seconds on the wrong side
> of my predicted finishing time (1:31:14). In my defence I
> would say that Inverness isn't the flattest of courses and
> it was darned windy yesterday, the wind alone probably
> accounting for over a minute. So, at the end of the day,
> I'm not too upset.

I see your fellow club member George McGregor 10 years
your senior slid in front of you. Maybe the high fiber
sowed you down? :)

A good effort which suggests your speed work is on target
for your 50k if you aren't working on writing your own press
clippings in the first 5 miles.

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Teresa Bippert-
  
Congratulations, Tim! Very sorry about the, um,
disturbances, but I think you know the cause and how to not
have it happen again. But nothing you can do about the wind,
and I'm sure that's where the extra time came from. No doubt
in my mind you'd have made 1:30 without the nasty wind. (Can
you tell I dislike the wind?) Hope the muscles are feeling
well today!

Teresa in AZ

Tim Downie wrote:
> (Full results at
> http://www.invernesshalfmarathon.co.uk/2004_FO.htm)
>
> A sub 1:30 would have been nice and if it hadn't been
> for the wind I might just have scraped it (although I
> may be kidding myself.) Overall, I'm pretty pleased with
> the result.
>
> Finishing time 1:31:22
>
> Tim

Tim Downie
  
Doug Freese wrote:

>
> I see your fellow club member George McGregor 10 years
> your senior slid in front of you. Maybe the high fiber
> sowed you down? :)

If you mean "slowed", then possibly yes. ;-) It's hard to
run your hardest when you rear end is trying to do likewise!
It doesn't half distract you from running your best.

George is one of those wiry tough guys who was having an off
day yesterday. Partly down to having a cold and partly due
to having run a 1:27 just the week before. He's next on my
hit list. ;-)

> A good effort which suggests your speed work is on target
> for your 50k if you aren't working on writing your own
> press clippings in the first 5 miles.

Thanks.

Tim

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David Hallswort
  
Is Bill Downie (posn 594) a relative?

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Tim Downie
  
David Hallsworth wrote:
> Is Bill Downie (posn 594) a relative?

Not that *I* know of but who knows? ;-)

Tim

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Tim Downie
  
Teresa Bippert-Plymate wrote:
> Congratulations, Tim! Very sorry about the, um,
> disturbances, but I think you know the cause and how to
> not have it happen again. But nothing you can do about the
> wind, and I'm sure that's where the extra time came from.
> No doubt in my mind you'd have made 1:30 without the nasty
> wind. (Can you tell I dislike the wind?) Hope the muscles
> are feeling well today!

Thanks Teresa. The muscles are feeling fine although it's
hard to tell whether it's the 50 miles/week that speed my
recovery or the post run Slimfast. Already been out for an
easy 5 mile jog.

Cheers.

Tim
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David Hallswort
  
> David Hallsworth wrote:
> > Is Bill Downie (posn 594) a relative?
>
> Not that *I* know of but who knows? ;-)

Hey, if he is related, you got the better genes - you
whooped his ass!

D

Zb
  
Tim Downie wrote:
> Well, I'm annoyed. I ended up 8 seconds on the wrong side
> of my predicted finishing time (1:31:14). In my defence I
> would say that Inverness isn't the flattest of courses and
> it was darned windy yesterday, the wind alone probably
> accounting for over a minute. So, at the end of the day,
> I'm not too upset.

<snip interesting report>

Not so long ago (2-3 years I think), you were aiming for a
similarish time at the Glasgow half marathon (1'44 from
memory). I'm eating your dust at the moment, well done!

Was this a PB?

Teresa Bippert-
  
Super! I keep hearing good things about the Slim-Fast
recovery. I have been drinking soymilk myself, but I'll have
to pick up some SF and try
it.

Teresa

Tim Downie wrote:

> Teresa Bippert-Plymate wrote:
>
>>Congratulations, Tim! Very sorry about the, um,
>>disturbances, but I think you know the cause and how to
>>not have it happen again. But nothing you can do about the
>>wind, and I'm sure that's where the extra time came from.
>>No doubt in my mind you'd have made 1:30 without the nasty
>>wind. (Can you tell I dislike the wind?) Hope the muscles
>>are feeling well today!
>
>
> Thanks Teresa. The muscles are feeling fine although it's
> hard to tell whether it's the 50 miles/week that speed my
> recovery or the post run Slimfast. Already been out for an
> easy 5 mile jog.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Tim

Jonathan Sydenh
  
1) carrot sticks ARE dangerous in the wrong hands.

>
> 2.) Just because you hit the first mile marker at your
> expected time, it *doesn't* necessarily mean that you're
> running at your planned race pace. Clearly I ran the
> first half mile too fast and the next too slow to
> compensate and ended up with the right time but wrong
> pace for the next
> mile.

My trick, too. Though at a rather slower speed.

> 3.) Not so much a lesson as an observation. I took some
> Slimfast for my immediate post run rescucitation and
> once again, my legs feel great. It's the third time I've
> used it after long/hard runs and my impression is that
> it does seem to aid recovery. Of course, it might just
> mean I didn't
really
> push myself hard enough. ;-)

Quite. Absolutely pathetic, Tim. You've every right to be
annoyed with yourself. Mind you, well done on the 1.31.
Impressive. J

Les Thompson
  
In message <c35087$evs$1@oasis.ccit.arizona.edu>, Teresa Bippert-
Plymate <teresa@as.arizona.edu> writes
>Super! I keep hearing good things about the Slim-Fast
>recovery. I have been drinking soymilk myself, but I'll
>have to pick up some SF and try
>it.
>
>Teresa
>
>Tim Downie wrote:
>
>> Teresa Bippert-Plymate wrote:
>>
>>>Congratulations, Tim! Very sorry about the, um,
>>>disturbances, but I think you know the cause and how to
>>>not have it happen again. But nothing you can do about
>>>the wind, and I'm sure that's where the extra time came
>>>from. No doubt in my mind you'd have made 1:30 without
>>>the nasty wind. (Can you tell I dislike the wind?) Hope
>>>the muscles are feeling well today!
>> Thanks Teresa. The muscles are feeling fine although
>> it's hard to tell whether it's the 50 miles/week that
>> speed my recovery or the post run Slimfast. Already
>> been out for an easy 5 mile jog.

What Slimfast do you use Tim, ready to drink or mix your
own? Years ago I used to drink Weider Muscle Fuel which
seemed to help when I was running marathons but I think they
stopped making it some time ago.
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Tim Downie
  
ZB wrote:
> Tim Downie wrote:
>> Well, I'm annoyed. I ended up 8 seconds on the wrong side
>> of my predicted finishing time (1:31:14). In my defence I
>> would say that Inverness isn't the flattest of courses
>> and it was darned windy yesterday, the wind alone
>> probably accounting for over a minute. So, at the end of
>> the day, I'm not too upset.
>
> <snip interesting report>
>
> Not so long ago (2-3 years I think), you were aiming for a
> similarish time at the Glasgow half marathon (1'44 from
> memory).

Sounds about right. I guess you mean "similarish" to your
own target time.

> I'm eating your dust at the moment, well done!
>
> Was this a PB?

Yep. By 6 minutes and 7 seconds. The only problem is, it's
taken me 12 months to improve on it! I'll be an old old man
before I manage a 1:15. ;-)

Tim

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Zb
  
Tim Downie wrote:
> ZB wrote:
>> Tim Downie wrote:
>>> Well, I'm annoyed. I ended up 8 seconds on the wrong
>>> side of my predicted finishing time (1:31:14). In my
>>> defence I would say that Inverness isn't the flattest of
>>> courses and it was darned windy yesterday, the wind
>>> alone probably accounting for over a minute. So, at the
>>> end of the day, I'm not too upset.
>>
>> <snip interesting report>
>>
>> Not so long ago (2-3 years I think), you were aiming for
>> a similarish time at the Glasgow half marathon (1'44 from
>> memory).
>
> Sounds about right. I guess you mean "similarish" to your
> own target time.

Yep, silly me. Thats still my target time :-)

>> I'm eating your dust at the moment, well done!
>>
>> Was this a PB?
>
> Yep. By 6 minutes and 7 seconds. The only problem is, it's
> taken me 12 months to improve on it! I'll be an old old
> man before I manage a
> 1:15. ;-)

And more and more people will be telling you how ill
you look ;-)

Donovan Rebbech
  
In article <c346lh$22fald$1@ID-81538.news.uni-berlin.de>, Tim Downie wrote:

> The first mile of the course runs down river (the Ness)
> and with the wind behind us I was being extra careful not
> to go out too fast. After a bit of pace adjustment (i.e.
> slowing down) I hit the first mile marker at 6:59 which I
> was pleased about. We turned our first corner over the
> bridge across the Ness and headed back upstream head on
> into the wind. Unfortunately, due to the fact that I'd
> slowed significantly in that first mile, my pace was now
> too slow. Mile 2 came up in 7:15. :-( I wasn't too worried
> however and decided that if I was going to run any parts
> too slow, far better to do it early rather than late.

I have an alternative theory -- your first mile was
downwind and probably also a net downhill (since it was
downstream). It's not at all unusual to get splits that are
about +-5 seconds (see my splits for the central park
course for example)

> (Full results at
> http://www.invernesshalfmarathon.co.uk/2004_FO.htm)
>
> A sub 1:30 would have been nice and if it hadn't been for
> the wind I might just have scraped it (although I may be
> kidding myself.)

A sub 1:30 would have not only been nice, it's comparable to
about 19:30 for a 5k, so it would have been a fair bit
better than your other races. I think it's within reach, but
you'll probably have to work some more to get it.

FWIW, I actually think you did pretty well, including in the
"botched" second
mile. Dropping a few seconds on the early miles seldom
hurts (especially if they're uphill/upwind/etc),
and you usually will gain them back later in the
race. As someone who also recently ran a half
marathon "8 seconds worse than predicted" (well,
close to that), I can say that I'm damn happy about
it. You should be too.

Cheers,
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Tim Downie
  
David Hallsworth wrote:
>> David Hallsworth wrote:
>>> Is Bill Downie (posn 594) a relative?
>>
>> Not that *I* know of but who knows? ;-)
>
> Hey, if he is related, you got the better genes - you
> whooped his ass!

This time admittedly but bearing in mind that he would have
beaten me with that time 2 years ago *and* he's 5 years
older than me, he's not doing too badly. ;-)

Tim

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Anthony
  
Congrats Tim! Nice result and report. And another lesson
learned the hard way about what to eat before a race...

Anthony.

Doug Freese
  
Anthony wrote:

> Congrats Tim! Nice result and report. And another lesson
> learned the hard way about what to eat before a race...

Well he possibly learned was what not to eat but the real
question - what would he eat the next time? How do you
really know it was the celery(or what ever you pointed at)
and not something totally unrealated. Running fast and
digestion is not an exact science.

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