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This article from the BBC, headlined, "Police chiefs defend
bike courses", explains that officers from several forces
are going on bike courses to learn cycling techniques for
their job as cycling officers.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/3512772.stm
What puzzled me was the word 'defend' in the headline and
the tone of the piece which seems to suggest someone has
criticised the police for this but no mention is made of any
criticism.
Colin
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On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 14:48:33 -0000,
Colin Blackburn <colin.blackburn@durham.ac.uk> wrote:
> This article from the BBC, headlined, "Police chiefs
> defend bike courses", explains that officers from several
> forces are going on bike courses to learn cycling
> techniques for their job as cycling officers.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/3512772.stm
>
> What puzzled me was the word 'defend' in the headline and
> the tone of the piece which seems to suggest someone has
> criticised the police for this but no mention is made of
> any criticism.
Presumably people might complain about the cost aspects.
I do like the sound of the "extreme cycling techniques"
whatever they may be.
--
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shepherd, but we still lost the sheep dog trials"
- Robert Rankin, _They Came And Ate Us_
<Colin Blackburn> wrote:
> This article from the BBC, headlined, "Police chiefs
> defend bike courses", explains that officers from several
> forces are going on bike courses to learn cycling
> techniques for their job as cycling officers.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/3512772.stm
>
> What puzzled me was the word 'defend' in the headline and
> the tone of the piece which seems to suggest someone has
> criticised the police for this but no mention is made of
> any criticism.
The article in the Daily Mail [1] had quotes criticising it
on grounds of cost.
[1] I buy it for the mindless right-wing demagoguery.
--
Keith Willoughby http://flat222.org/keith/ Oh. Dog and a
beer.
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 15:45:02 +0000, Keith Willoughby <keith@flat222.org>
wrote:
> <Colin Blackburn> wrote:
>> This article from the BBC, headlined, "Police chiefs
>> defend bike courses", explains that officers from several
>> forces are going on bike courses to learn cycling
>> techniques for their job as cycling officers.
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/3512772.stm
>>
>> What puzzled me was the word 'defend' in the headline and
>> the tone of the piece which seems to suggest someone has
>> criticised the police for this but no mention is made of
>> any criticism.
>
> The article in the Daily Mail [1] had quotes criticising
> it on grounds of cost.
I guessed it had been criticised somewhere and probably for
cost reasons just curious as to why the BBC ran with the
defence tone without citing the criticism.
Soon they (whoever they are) will be expecting the police
to not be trained at all in anything. I take it the
criticism was implying that all they are being tought is
"how to ride a bike"?
> [1] I buy it for the mindless right-wing demagoguery.
It's what it does best.
Colin
--
In article <ukvgi1-cmv.ln1@flat222.dyndns.org>,
Keith Willoughby <keith@flat222.org> wrote:
> [1] I buy it for the mindless right-wing demagoguery.
Triumph of the Willoughby, clearly.
ian
<Colin Blackburn> wrote: [Daily Mail on police bike
training]
> Soon they (whoever they are) will be expecting the police
> to not be trained at all in anything. I take it the
> criticism was implying that all they are being tought is
> "how to ride a bike"?
IIRC, the tone was "In the olden days, people knew how to
ride a bike. They didn't need expensive touchy-feely so-
called training, especially from filthy foreigners. It's a
sad indictment of society that we blame on illegal
immigrants". I could be mixing up a couple of stories
there, though.
--
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makes me free
Keith Willoughby wrote:
> IIRC, the tone was "In the olden days, people knew how to
> ride a bike. They didn't need expensive touchy-feely so-
> called training, especially from filthy foreigners. It's a
> sad indictment of society that we blame on illegal
> immigrants". I could be mixing up a couple of stories
> there, though.
"Illegal immigrants"? That's very un-PC, they're called
"Failed asylum seekers" now, AFAICT.
Pete.
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<Ian G Batten> wrote:
> In article <ukvgi1-cmv.ln1@flat222.dyndns.org>, Keith
> Willoughby <keith@flat222.org> wrote:
>> [1] I buy it for the mindless right-wing demagoguery.
>
> Triumph of the Willoughby, clearly.
Oh, I say! Well done.
--
Keith Willoughby http://flat222.org/keith/ Twll Dyn Pob Saes
In article <4055D4F0.9070802@dundee.ac.uk>,
Peter Clinch <p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk> wrote:
> Keith Willoughby wrote:
>
> > IIRC, the tone was "In the olden days, people knew how
> > to ride a bike. They didn't need expensive touchy-feely
> > so-called training, especially from filthy foreigners.
> > It's a sad indictment of society that we blame on
> > illegal immigrants". I could be mixing up a couple of
> > stories there, though.
>
> "Illegal immigrants"? That's very un-PC, they're called
> "Failed asylum seekers" now, AFAICT.
There's a superb spoof on the back page of The New Yorker
last week. It has a set of questions from the producers to
Mel Gibson, about his new production. Suggesting titles like
Lethal Passion, for example. But also pointing out typos:
``There appears to be a space missing between Jew and Boy on
page 48.''
ian
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 14:48:33 -0000, Colin Blackburn wrote:
> This article from the BBC, headlined, "Police chiefs
> defend bike courses", explains that officers from several
> forces are going on bike courses to learn cycling
> techniques for their job as cycling officers.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/3512772.stm
>
> What puzzled me was the word 'defend' in the headline and
> the tone of the piece which seems to suggest someone has
> criticised the police for this but no mention is made of
> any criticism.
>
> Colin
> --
I saw some officers riding Smith & Wesson Tactical mountain
bikes the other week. They probably throw them at the
criminals instead of shooting them. ;-)
--
Michael MacClancy Random putdown - "I've had a perfectly
wonderful evening. But this wasn't
it." -Groucho Marx www.macclancy.demon.co.uk
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Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> wrote in message news:<slrnc5bi67.esm.andyl@azaal.plus.com>...
> I do like the sound of the "extreme cycling techniques"
> whatever they may be.
I would guess they would include things like arrest
techniques while cycling.
--
Dave...
"Michael MacClancy" <herzelNOSPAM@o2.co.uk> wrote in message
news:12jyv5b9a9t8d.xp4k6gxnsu77$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 14:48:33 -0000, Colin Blackburn wrote:
>
> > This article from the BBC, headlined, "Police chiefs
> > defend bike
courses",
> > explains that officers from several forces are going on
> > bike courses to learn cycling techniques for their job
> > as cycling officers.
> >
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/35127-
> > 72.stm
> >
> > What puzzled me was the word 'defend' in the headline
> > and the tone of
the
> > piece which seems to suggest someone has criticised the
> > police for this but no mention is made of any criticism.
> >
> > Colin
> > --
>
> I saw some officers riding Smith & Wesson Tactical
> mountain bikes the
other
> week. They probably throw them at the criminals instead of
> shooting them. ;-)
> --
> Michael MacClancy
...and I guess when the going gets 'real tough', they'll
invest in the Hummer MTB ;-) (no, I'm not kidding. They're
600quid, invisible to radar, robust enough for 'behind enemy
lines', totally silent and don't produce heat, so can't be
picked up by IR detectors - don't know about the trooper
pedalling hell for leather carrying 250lbs of kit on his
back though ;-)...also, they're foldable in 30secs, so ideal
for the multi-transport mode commute.)
Dave.
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 16:00:05 +0000 someone who may be Keith
Willoughby <keith@flat222.org> wrote this:-
>I could be mixing up a couple of stories there, though.
I think it only has one story, which is varied to suit the
article concerned.
The story is essentially that everything is going wrong and
what is needed is a nice dose of stringent measures to
restore the good old days.
--
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government prevents me using the RIP Act 2000.
"Colin Blackburn" <colin.blackburn@durham.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:opr4wre7yayxrafp@nntphost.dur.ac.uk...
> This article from the BBC, headlined, "Police chiefs
> defend bike courses", explains that officers from several
> forces are going on bike courses to learn cycling
> techniques for their job as cycling officers.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/3512772.stm
>
> What puzzled me was the word 'defend' in the headline and
> the tone of the piece which seems to suggest someone has
> criticised the police for this but no mention is made of
> any criticism.
Well I don't know... is it really as effective as it is
claimed - will it help the police do a better job? I guess
it's true that it will make them more approachable than if
they were riding in a car, but I'm still somewhat
doubtful. It would be interesting to have a policeman's
perspective on this.
--
Akin
aknak at aksoto dot idps dot co dot uk
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 14:48:33 -0000, "Colin Blackburn"
<colin.blackburn@durham.ac.uk> wrote in message
<opr4wre7yayxrafp@nntphost.dur.ac.uk>:
>What puzzled me was the word 'defend' in the headline and
>the tone of the piece which seems to suggest someone has
>criticised the police for this but no mention is made of
>any criticism.
Obviously. As we all know, all they need to do is wear their
Magic Hats and they will become invulnerable.
--
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Sky Fly wrote:
> "Colin Blackburn" <colin.blackburn@durham.ac.uk> wrote in
> message news:opr4wre7yayxrafp@nntphost.dur.ac.uk...
>> This article from the BBC, headlined, "Police chiefs
>> defend bike courses", explains that officers from several
>> forces are going on bike courses to learn cycling
>> techniques for their job as cycling officers.
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/3512772.stm
>>
>> What puzzled me was the word 'defend' in the headline and
>> the tone of the piece which seems to suggest someone has
>> criticised the police for this but no mention is made of
>> any criticism.
>
> Well I don't know... is it really as effective as it is
> claimed - will it help the police do a better job?
I'd have thought it'd be very handy for the average
beat bobby. They can get about a lot quicker if
something happens, but they're still easy for the
public to get hold of.
> Presumably people might complain about the cost aspects.
>
> I do like the sound of the "extreme cycling techniques"
> whatever they may be.
I know this one. It's hanging on and screaming whilst going
down big hills on my Marin.
John
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 19:07:19 -0000, "Sky Fly" <nobody@blackhole.com>
wrote:
>
>"Colin Blackburn" <colin.blackburn@durham.ac.uk> wrote in
>message news:opr4wre7yayxrafp@nntphost.dur.ac.uk...
>> This article from the BBC, headlined, "Police chiefs
>> defend bike courses", explains that officers from several
>> forces are going on bike courses to learn cycling
>> techniques for their job as cycling officers.
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/3512772.stm
>>
>> What puzzled me was the word 'defend' in the headline and
>> the tone of the piece which seems to suggest someone has
>> criticised the police for this but no mention is made of
>> any criticism.
>
>Well I don't know... is it really as effective as it is
>claimed - will it help the police do a better job? I guess
>it's true that it will make them more approachable than if
>they were riding in a car, but I'm still somewhat doubtful.
Probably work quite well in heavily pedestrianised areas
such as Birmingham town center. Can't chase someone in a car
round there.
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On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 14:48:33 -0000, "Colin Blackburn"
<colin.blackburn@durham.ac.uk> wrote (more or less):
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/3512772.stm
I've sent a complaint to their web-site, via their
feedback link.:
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"Your article "Police chiefs defend bike courses" doesn't
actually say who you feel the police have to defend
themselves from.
Perhaps you feel that everyone should just naturally attack
the police any time they train themselves to use the
equipment they are issued with?
I look forward to your next article "BBC journalism chiefs
defend word-processor training courses".
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dkahn400@yahoo.co.uk (Dave Kahn) wrote in
news:57db8bde.0403151044.17a2d1a7@posting.google.com:
> I would guess they would include things like arrest
> techniques while cycling.
>
Method 1 -
Step 1: Approach the suspect at high speed and start to
freewheel. Step 2: Whilst balancing carefully, climb up
until you are standing on the saddle. Step 3: On nearing the
suspect, launch yourself in a high altitude rugby style
tackle, whilst announcing "You're nicked sunshine!"
Method 2 - Step 1: Run the suspect over from behind and
whilst he is incapacitated announce "You're nicked
sunshine!"
Any others?
:-)
Graeme
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