Johnb
Has anyone here been on or planning to go to the DfT funded
cycle training courses being arranged by the CTC?
John B
cycle training courses being arranged by the CTC?
John B
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Marc
In article <40562B17.83DCA17A@here.com>,
nospam@here.com says...
> as anyone here been on or planning to go to the DfT funded
> cycle training courses being arranged by the CTC?
>
Tell me more?
nospam@here.com says...
> as anyone here been on or planning to go to the DfT funded
> cycle training courses being arranged by the CTC?
>
Tell me more?
Peter Fox
Following on from JohnB's message. . .
>Has anyone here been on or planning to go to the DfT funded
>cycle training courses being arranged by the CTC?
>
>John B
Cycle _trainer_ training courses?
Yes they have....
..Oh you wanted a useful answer...
...a lady I know _went and did it_ while the blokes like me
were just ramping it up the agenda. (Effective team work
actually.) She started as a casual shrinking cyclist just
turned assertive commuter and found the course very good in
itself with plenty of on-the-road stuff and even more
assertiveness. She said that it astonished some local
government people who had been brainwashed into thinking of
cyclists as targets and
are going to have a harder time waffling.
Bottom line seems to be do it if you're a reasonably clued-
up cyclist already and want to put a bit of respectable
backbone into local training efforts.
--
PETER FOX Not the same since the deckchair business folded
peterfox@eminent.demon.co.uk.not.this.bit.no.html
www.eminent.demon.co.uk/wcc.htm Witham Cycling Campaign
www.eminent.demon.co.uk/rides East Anglian Pub cycle rides
>Has anyone here been on or planning to go to the DfT funded
>cycle training courses being arranged by the CTC?
>
>John B
Cycle _trainer_ training courses?
Yes they have....
..Oh you wanted a useful answer...
...a lady I know _went and did it_ while the blokes like me
were just ramping it up the agenda. (Effective team work
actually.) She started as a casual shrinking cyclist just
turned assertive commuter and found the course very good in
itself with plenty of on-the-road stuff and even more
assertiveness. She said that it astonished some local
government people who had been brainwashed into thinking of
cyclists as targets and
are going to have a harder time waffling.
Bottom line seems to be do it if you're a reasonably clued-
up cyclist already and want to put a bit of respectable
backbone into local training efforts.
--
PETER FOX Not the same since the deckchair business folded
peterfox@eminent.demon.co.uk.not.this.bit.no.html
www.eminent.demon.co.uk/wcc.htm Witham Cycling Campaign
www.eminent.demon.co.uk/rides East Anglian Pub cycle rides
\ Dave
"JohnB" <nospam@here.com> wrote in message
news:40562B17.83DCA17A@here.com...
> Has anyone here been on or planning to go to the DfT
> funded cycle training courses being arranged by the CTC?
>
> John B
I was about to do it, unfortunately due to administrative
****-up, I'm now spending a fortnight working on a Caribbean
cruise instead!!...ah well, c'est la vie ;-) Dave. (not
saying whose the ****-up was, but it wasn't mine!!)
news:40562B17.83DCA17A@here.com...
> Has anyone here been on or planning to go to the DfT
> funded cycle training courses being arranged by the CTC?
>
> John B
I was about to do it, unfortunately due to administrative
****-up, I'm now spending a fortnight working on a Caribbean
cruise instead!!...ah well, c'est la vie ;-) Dave. (not
saying whose the ****-up was, but it wasn't mine!!)
Zog The Undenia
JohnB wrote:
> Has anyone here been on or planning to go to the DfT
> funded cycle training courses being arranged by the CTC?
>
> John B
Presumably, like most schemes, the DfT insist on the
instructor wearing a helmet? In the current "compulsory when
there's no-one left to complain" climate I won't, on
principle.
> Has anyone here been on or planning to go to the DfT
> funded cycle training courses being arranged by the CTC?
>
> John B
Presumably, like most schemes, the DfT insist on the
instructor wearing a helmet? In the current "compulsory when
there's no-one left to complain" climate I won't, on
principle.
Johnb
marc wrote:
>
> In article <40562B17.83DCA17A@here.com>,
> nospam@here.com says...
> > as anyone here been on or planning to go to the DfT
> > funded cycle training courses being arranged by the CTC?
> >
> Tell me more?
This is the scheme whereby the DfT is funding free
professional cycle training for 100 instructors in order to
increase the number of cyclists
- mainly older youth and adults. It is also supported by
various other cycling organisations and is being
administered by the CTC. An aim is also to set National
Standards in Cycle Training Instruction. Those accepted
for the training will also receive public liability
insurance and a support package. The courses are over four
days at various centres and are worth in the region of
£250 - £400. It is possible for those not accepted on teh
free courses to also undertake the training.
Best bet for more info is to contact the CTC.
I was wondering if anyone else here has been selected or had
been on any of the earlier courses so that:
1. I'd have some idea what to really expect
2. Whether they were found to be useful/enjoayable
3. What future plans anyone has to make use of the training.
John B
>
> In article <40562B17.83DCA17A@here.com>,
> nospam@here.com says...
> > as anyone here been on or planning to go to the DfT
> > funded cycle training courses being arranged by the CTC?
> >
> Tell me more?
This is the scheme whereby the DfT is funding free
professional cycle training for 100 instructors in order to
increase the number of cyclists
- mainly older youth and adults. It is also supported by
various other cycling organisations and is being
administered by the CTC. An aim is also to set National
Standards in Cycle Training Instruction. Those accepted
for the training will also receive public liability
insurance and a support package. The courses are over four
days at various centres and are worth in the region of
£250 - £400. It is possible for those not accepted on teh
free courses to also undertake the training.
Best bet for more info is to contact the CTC.
I was wondering if anyone else here has been selected or had
been on any of the earlier courses so that:
1. I'd have some idea what to really expect
2. Whether they were found to be useful/enjoayable
3. What future plans anyone has to make use of the training.
John B
Johnb
Zog The Undeniable wrote:
>
> JohnB wrote:
> > Has anyone here been on or planning to go to the DfT
> > funded cycle training courses being arranged by the CTC?
> >
> > John B
>
> Presumably, like most schemes, the DfT insist on the
> instructor wearing a helmet? In the current "compulsory
> when there's no-one left to complain" climate I won't, on
> principle.
Well, I've just received my advance information and will be
spending most of next week undergoing the training. TBH its
a point I had forgotten about as when I'm training children
at the local school I don't have to wear one - but the
children do. That's something I'm not too bothered about aa
getting them on a bike with a helmet is better than not
getting them out at all - and that's said as someone who
tends towards the anti-helmet side.
John B
>
> JohnB wrote:
> > Has anyone here been on or planning to go to the DfT
> > funded cycle training courses being arranged by the CTC?
> >
> > John B
>
> Presumably, like most schemes, the DfT insist on the
> instructor wearing a helmet? In the current "compulsory
> when there's no-one left to complain" climate I won't, on
> principle.
Well, I've just received my advance information and will be
spending most of next week undergoing the training. TBH its
a point I had forgotten about as when I'm training children
at the local school I don't have to wear one - but the
children do. That's something I'm not too bothered about aa
getting them on a bike with a helmet is better than not
getting them out at all - and that's said as someone who
tends towards the anti-helmet side.
John B
Just Zis Guy
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 19:23:05 +0000, JohnB <nospam@here.com> wrote in
message <40575418.5DDE27C@here.com>:
[re training]
>Best bet for more info is to contact the CTC.
Specifically Greg Woodford, I believe.
--
Guy
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message <40575418.5DDE27C@here.com>:
[re training]
>Best bet for more info is to contact the CTC.
Specifically Greg Woodford, I believe.
--
Guy
===
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posting. http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk (http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/)
88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at
Washington University
Johnb
"Just zis Guy, you know?" wrote:
>
> On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 19:23:05 +0000, JohnB
> <nospam@here.com> wrote in message
> <40575418.5DDE27C@here.com>:
>
> [re training]
>
> >Best bet for more info is to contact the CTC.
>
> Specifically Greg Woodford, I believe.
You believe correct.
John B
>
> On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 19:23:05 +0000, JohnB
> <nospam@here.com> wrote in message
> <40575418.5DDE27C@here.com>:
>
> [re training]
>
> >Best bet for more info is to contact the CTC.
>
> Specifically Greg Woodford, I believe.
You believe correct.
John B
Mark
Zog The Undeniable wrote:
> JohnB wrote:
>> Has anyone here been on or planning to go to the DfT
>> funded cycle training courses being arranged by the CTC?
>>
>> John B
>
> Presumably, like most schemes, the DfT insist on the
> instructor wearing a helmet? In the current "compulsory
> when there's no-one left to complain" climate I won't, on
> principle.
My wife was on a cycling proficiency trainers course today.
It was organised by Edinburgh council and run by the police.
One of the points that was made was that the kids they teach
must have a helmet. I didn't ask about the instructors.
--
Mark
After thinking long about a signature I've decided not to bother.
> JohnB wrote:
>> Has anyone here been on or planning to go to the DfT
>> funded cycle training courses being arranged by the CTC?
>>
>> John B
>
> Presumably, like most schemes, the DfT insist on the
> instructor wearing a helmet? In the current "compulsory
> when there's no-one left to complain" climate I won't, on
> principle.
My wife was on a cycling proficiency trainers course today.
It was organised by Edinburgh council and run by the police.
One of the points that was made was that the kids they teach
must have a helmet. I didn't ask about the instructors.
--
Mark
After thinking long about a signature I've decided not to bother.
Colin McKenzie
Zog The Undeniable wrote:
> JohnB wrote:
>
>> Has anyone here been on or planning to go to the DfT
>> funded cycle training courses being arranged by the
>> CTC? John B
>
> Presumably, like most schemes, the DfT insist on the
> instructor wearing a helmet? In the current "compulsory
> when there's no-one left to complain" climate I won't, on
> principle.
No. This is proper training in proper cycling with proper
understanding of the issues.
Some of the courses are run by Cycle Training UK, whose
policy is not to promote or discourage helmet-wearing. I
believe they decline to teach if trainees are compelled to
wear helmets, but I may be wrong. (Declares interest: I've
done one of their instructor training courses, which was
similar to the CTC ones. Now I try to train, part-time, on
their payroll, according to the national standards).
So, Zog, will you be signing up? The more training there is
like this, the less room there will be for the other sort.
Colin McKenzie
> JohnB wrote:
>
>> Has anyone here been on or planning to go to the DfT
>> funded cycle training courses being arranged by the
>> CTC? John B
>
> Presumably, like most schemes, the DfT insist on the
> instructor wearing a helmet? In the current "compulsory
> when there's no-one left to complain" climate I won't, on
> principle.
No. This is proper training in proper cycling with proper
understanding of the issues.
Some of the courses are run by Cycle Training UK, whose
policy is not to promote or discourage helmet-wearing. I
believe they decline to teach if trainees are compelled to
wear helmets, but I may be wrong. (Declares interest: I've
done one of their instructor training courses, which was
similar to the CTC ones. Now I try to train, part-time, on
their payroll, according to the national standards).
So, Zog, will you be signing up? The more training there is
like this, the less room there will be for the other sort.
Colin McKenzie
Johnb
Mark wrote:
>
> Zog The Undeniable wrote:
> > JohnB wrote:
> >> Has anyone here been on or planning to go to the
> >> DfT funded cycle training courses being arranged by
> >> the CTC?
> >>
> >> John B
> >
> > Presumably, like most schemes, the DfT insist on the
> > instructor wearing a helmet? In the current "compulsory
> > when there's no-one left to complain" climate I won't,
> > on principle.
>
> My wife was on a cycling proficiency trainers course
> today. It was organised by Edinburgh council and run by
> the police. One of the points that was made was that the
> kids they teach must have a helmet. I didn't ask about the
> instructors.
I have checked with the course I am on and it is entirely up
to me whether I wear a helmet or not.
I'm looking foward to it, not least because I'll be staying
in Bath with some great pubs, and will be commuting each day
to Bristol along the Bath-Bitton-Bristol cycle way.
I wonder if I'll see Danny?
John B
>
> Zog The Undeniable wrote:
> > JohnB wrote:
> >> Has anyone here been on or planning to go to the
> >> DfT funded cycle training courses being arranged by
> >> the CTC?
> >>
> >> John B
> >
> > Presumably, like most schemes, the DfT insist on the
> > instructor wearing a helmet? In the current "compulsory
> > when there's no-one left to complain" climate I won't,
> > on principle.
>
> My wife was on a cycling proficiency trainers course
> today. It was organised by Edinburgh council and run by
> the police. One of the points that was made was that the
> kids they teach must have a helmet. I didn't ask about the
> instructors.
I have checked with the course I am on and it is entirely up
to me whether I wear a helmet or not.
I'm looking foward to it, not least because I'll be staying
in Bath with some great pubs, and will be commuting each day
to Bristol along the Bath-Bitton-Bristol cycle way.
I wonder if I'll see Danny?
John B
Gonzalez
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 11:25:55 +0000, JohnB <nospam@here.com> wrote:
>I have checked with the course I am on and it is entirely
>up to me whether I wear a helmet or not.
I had this rather sorry response to my query.
"Free cycle training is available, but the places are now
extremeley limited and also limited to out of London, i.e.
the London courses are full."
It seems the nearest course for which places remain is in
Bristol next week!
>I have checked with the course I am on and it is entirely
>up to me whether I wear a helmet or not.
I had this rather sorry response to my query.
"Free cycle training is available, but the places are now
extremeley limited and also limited to out of London, i.e.
the London courses are full."
It seems the nearest course for which places remain is in
Bristol next week!
Johnb
Gonzalez wrote:
>
> On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 11:25:55 +0000, JohnB
> <nospam@here.com> wrote:
>
> >I have checked with the course I am on and it is entirely
> >up to me whether I wear a helmet or not.
>
> I had this rather sorry response to my query.
>
> "Free cycle training is available, but the places are now
> extremeley limited and also limited to out of London, i.e.
> the London courses are full."
>
> It seems the nearest course for which places remain is in
> Bristol next week!
You can still attend the courses on a fee paying basis (but
its a bit pricy) and according to the CTC: "should any
potential cycle trainers be ineligible for free training, we
will still assist them in every way we can to achieve a
client base and set up their own cycle training business".
Also I understand taht teh scheme is not just a one off but
is a kick start to teh introduction of national standards
for cycle training.
John B
>
> On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 11:25:55 +0000, JohnB
> <nospam@here.com> wrote:
>
> >I have checked with the course I am on and it is entirely
> >up to me whether I wear a helmet or not.
>
> I had this rather sorry response to my query.
>
> "Free cycle training is available, but the places are now
> extremeley limited and also limited to out of London, i.e.
> the London courses are full."
>
> It seems the nearest course for which places remain is in
> Bristol next week!
You can still attend the courses on a fee paying basis (but
its a bit pricy) and according to the CTC: "should any
potential cycle trainers be ineligible for free training, we
will still assist them in every way we can to achieve a
client base and set up their own cycle training business".
Also I understand taht teh scheme is not just a one off but
is a kick start to teh introduction of national standards
for cycle training.
John B
Danny Colyer
JohnB wrote:
> I'm looking foward to it, not least because I'll be
> staying in Bath with some great pubs, and will be
> commuting each day to Bristol along the Bath-Bitton-
> Bristol cycle way.
>
> I wonder if I'll see Danny?
Quite possibly. DW is due to drop next Thursday, so I may be
on paternity leave and therefore not commuting, but she'll
probably be late again.
What'll you be riding? I usually join the cyclepath at
Warmely at about
08:25 and leave at Saltford at about 08:40. The other way I
tend to be riding sometime between about 17:15 and 18:00.
--
Danny Colyer (the UK company has been laughed out of my reply address)
http://www.speedy5.freeserve.co.uk/danny/
Why I like OE6 - http://www.speedy5.freeserve.co.uk/danny/misc/oe6.html
"He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine
> I'm looking foward to it, not least because I'll be
> staying in Bath with some great pubs, and will be
> commuting each day to Bristol along the Bath-Bitton-
> Bristol cycle way.
>
> I wonder if I'll see Danny?
Quite possibly. DW is due to drop next Thursday, so I may be
on paternity leave and therefore not commuting, but she'll
probably be late again.
What'll you be riding? I usually join the cyclepath at
Warmely at about
08:25 and leave at Saltford at about 08:40. The other way I
tend to be riding sometime between about 17:15 and 18:00.
--
Danny Colyer (the UK company has been laughed out of my reply address)
http://www.speedy5.freeserve.co.uk/danny/
Why I like OE6 - http://www.speedy5.freeserve.co.uk/danny/misc/oe6.html
"He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine
Johnb
Danny Colyer wrote:
>
> JohnB wrote:
> > I'm looking foward to it, not least because I'll be
> > staying in Bath with some great pubs, and will be
> > commuting each day to Bristol along the Bath-Bitton-
> > Bristol cycle way.
> >
> > I wonder if I'll see Danny?
>
> Quite possibly. DW is due to drop next Thursday, so I may
> be on paternity leave and therefore not commuting, but
> she'll probably be late again.
>
> What'll you be riding? I usually join the cyclepath at
> Warmely at about
> 08:25 and leave at Saltford at about 08:40. The other way
> I tend to be riding sometime between about 17:15 and
> 18:00.
I'll possibly be along that stretch around those times too,
Monday to Thursday
I won't have my light sabre, but will probably be on
frame No.6666 - Bike Friday. at least the wheels are the
same size :-)
If I see you I'll wave.
John B
>
> JohnB wrote:
> > I'm looking foward to it, not least because I'll be
> > staying in Bath with some great pubs, and will be
> > commuting each day to Bristol along the Bath-Bitton-
> > Bristol cycle way.
> >
> > I wonder if I'll see Danny?
>
> Quite possibly. DW is due to drop next Thursday, so I may
> be on paternity leave and therefore not commuting, but
> she'll probably be late again.
>
> What'll you be riding? I usually join the cyclepath at
> Warmely at about
> 08:25 and leave at Saltford at about 08:40. The other way
> I tend to be riding sometime between about 17:15 and
> 18:00.
I'll possibly be along that stretch around those times too,
Monday to Thursday
I won't have my light sabre, but will probably be on
frame No.6666 - Bike Friday. at least the wheels are the
same size :-)
If I see you I'll wave.
John B
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