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Velvet
  
Thought I'd missed my chance to do a wafflycat and get out
for a nice ride in the sunshine this week. However, after
lighting rocket under parental bottom, the meeting that
wrote yesterday off took place this morning, and I managed
to scramble and got the train at lunchtime to
E.Grinstead.

Set off from there to negotiate traffic, roundabouts,
high-street, on my lonesome (and without much in the way
of signalling abilities, too) - and managed not to get
lost this time (sustrans route marking really is pants
round there).

Ignored the cycle lanes on the roundabout just by the
station - they lead cyclists around the very perimeter of
the roundabout. Even I can see that's daft and just asking
for a car to plough through you cos they've assumed you're
also leaving the roundabout. I cycled round it taking up the
whole lane, well away from those red things.

Generally found it ok - was aware pulling out round parked
vehicles is a little trickier if you can't stick an arm out
brazenly then pull out, but managed it without incident, and
all the drivers gave me plenty of room when they passed (and
waited patiently behind quite a bit) too!

Once onto the offroad part of route 21 (heading for forest
row, then possibly on to groombridge) I could relax a bit
more and really enjoy
Ea. Very good surface - well packed down fine gravel, and
my audax tourer with 700x25 tyres handled it fine (now
that I'm not as tense the bike is a little better at
not twitching here there and everywhere!).

Quite a few other cyclists/walkers out, including a couple
of what looked like seasoned touring cyclists who I passed
twice (we seemed to have had the same idea but started from
different ends)! I have to admit I think I was the most
visible of the lot, given the bright yellow (and black!)
jersey I was covering my overly ample figure with - everyone
else seemed to have gone for more camouflaging attire ;-)

Forest Row came and went - with a little bit of puzzling
over where the route vanished to - the answer was discovered
down the side of a fence, rather than continuing along the
(rather potholed) access road.

Eventually Groombridge arrived, and I got to the end of that
section of route 21, with a HUGE grin on my face, but also
the knowledge that despite riding with the wind very
slightly against me, it had all been downhill so far! I
decided I was too hungry to turn back, so peeled off toward
groombridge village in search of food, thought twice about
it when I saw the hill going up, then decided if it wasn't
marked with chevrons on the map then I'd be able to walk up
it, if I didn't manage to cycle it.

One stop later (to let a couple of vans past) I got to the
top - another achievement - didn't expect to manage it, but
as usual the lowest gear and triple chainrings made it JUST
bearable. Long swooping glide down the other side (thinking
oh no, I have to cycle back up this) and found a closed
bakery and - thank goodness - a corner shop that wasn't, but
which did sell bananas, and other assorted stuff. One banana
isn't enough, but I didn't realise that at the time.

Cycled back up longer hill, and managed it with just one
stop (again for cars, handy that) then down and retracing my
route back to e.grinstead, but with the added factors that
a) my legs were tired now, b) they were telling me this, c)
my hands had decided they were tired too, and d) it was a
mild incline nearly all the way!!

At forest row I started to have doubts that I might not
catch the train back, and end up on one that would mean
changing at east croydon to get home, but east grinsted soon
arrived sooner than I thought - though I opted to walk up
the last cyclepath part to where it joins the road - far too
steep for the tired legs by then!

Discovered cycling at 6mph in traffic isn't as scary once
you realise the traffic is only supposed to be doing 20mph,
but still hard work going up the high street, before it's
downhill to the station, and home
- and I couldn't be bothered to wait for the train on the
very last leg, so cycled the one train stop home (another
first for me doing it solo).

All in all (as you'll have realised by getting this far and
not giving up reading) I was dead chuffed today. 25 miles
from door to door, my second ride of the year (and apart
from 10? miles last weekend, last time I cycled was sept
last year).

Also rediscovered that grinning leads to increased protein
intake. Good job I'm not veggie any more, and wasn't riding
a recumbent ;-)

Can't wait to go do it again!

Velvet

Dirtylitterboxo
  
>Can't wait to go do it again!
>

Excellent - sounds like you really enjoyed it.

Cheers, helen s

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Velvet
  
dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers wrote:

>>Can't wait to go do it again!
>>
>
>
> Excellent - sounds like you really enjoyed it.
>
> Cheers, helen s
>
>
>
>
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>
Heh, I did. Hence extra protein intake. Too much grinning
:-) Getting hard now to look back on just how scared and
uncomfortable I found it when I first got the bike 3? years
ago... but also how little I've used it since then is quite
shocking. 6 months or so away from it though seem to have
paid dividends rather than been the backwards slide I was
expecting.

Course, next time out I'll end up in a hedge somewhere and
be eating my words.

Velvet

Al
  
> Can't wait to go do it again!

Well done, how do you feel today? I'm asking as I'm thinking
of doing the Forest Way this weekend.

How easy is the riding?

I haven't ridden since I was knocked off my bike in
November so want somewhere that won't worry my damaged knee
cartilage too much.

Cheers

Al

Velvet
  
Al wrote:

>>Can't wait to go do it again!
>
>
> Well done, how do you feel today? I'm asking as I'm
> thinking of doing the Forest Way this weekend.
>
> How easy is the riding?
>
> I haven't ridden since I was knocked off my bike in
> November so want somewhere that won't worry my damaged
> knee cartilage too much.
>
> Cheers
>
> Al

Al, it's very easy. I have a slight ache still in the legs
today, but that's down to the hills I added into it at
groombridge (in search of food) rather than the actual
forest way ride itself (though the sheer milage might have
contributed too). Itching to get out and ride again, would
suggest meeting up along the way somewhere this weekend but
am off to cambridgeshire.

The great thing is that you only need go as far as you
want/can, and then can turn round and cycle back. If you can
choose which end you'll start from, I'd recommend
groombridge - that way you will be cycling the gentle uphill
gradient when you set out, and will be coming back doing a
gentle downhill, which works nicely (and will put the knee
under less stress coming back than going out).

Even if you can't start from groombridge, I shouldn't think
you'd have too much trouble - just take into account you'll
be cycling back on that gentle uphill and make sure you
don't go too far that you can't then manage the return
without aggravating the cartilage.

I have dodgy knees too (not helped by the saddle being too
low but can't fix that till I've improved some other bike-
handling skills) so I'm fairly aware that I need to not make
them do too much nasty stuff.

Having looked at the guide I have, the route profile's
something like this..

East grinstead starts at about 85-90 metres, drops through
steady gentle incline to forest row at about 60 metres, then
even more gentle incline to groombridge at 40 metres. If you
do E. Grinstead to Groombridge then back, you do the
slightly higher incline right at the end when the legs will
be most tired, rather than in the middle. It's 10 miles
between the start of the cyclepath bit in E. grinstead to
groombridge, about 7 from forest row to groombridge if you
opt for trying that section out on it's own.

Just as you get to groombridge there's a little section
where there's a bit of up/down hill stuff but they're
all VERY short (not more than maybe 10 metres distance)
and if the knee complains it's not a problem to get off
and walk :-)

Only thing to be aware of is they're doing water main re-
laying along some stretches of it, so there's a couple of
big holes that're boarded over, one of which has to be
dismounted and wheeled around on narrow path by bank - but
you get plenty of warning when that stuff's coming up cos
you can see for yonks along the path!

Velvet

Dave Kahn
  
Velvet <velvet@not.a.valid.domain> wrote in message news:<OoHac.448$Q21.3648568@news-text.cableinet.net>...

> Course, next time out I'll end up in a hedge somewhere and
> be eating my words.

At least they have no unwanted protein.

--
Dave...

Frobnitz
  
"Velvet" <velvet@not.a.valid.domain> wrote in message
news:oqEac.247$Uy7.2169961@news-
> Also rediscovered that grinning leads to increased protein
> intake. Good job I'm not veggie any more, and wasn't
> riding a recumbent ;-)
>
This is an interesting one - last night, I went out for a
sunset saunter on the 'bent, and at one point on a bit of a
path near a river, a couple of joggers and a guy on an
upright went through a swarm of beastlies and promptly
started spitting and waving their hands around. I went
underneath the critters - with one huge grin on my face.

E

Tim Hall
  
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:51:00 GMT, Velvet <velvet@not.a.valid.domain>
wrote:

>Thought I'd missed my chance to do a wafflycat and get out
>for a nice ride in the sunshine this week.

<snip>
>
>Ignored the cycle lanes on the roundabout just by the
>station - they lead cyclists around the very perimeter of
>the roundabout. Even I can see that's daft and just asking
>for a car to plough through you cos they've assumed you're
>also leaving the roundabout. I cycled round it taking up
>the whole lane, well away from those red things.

Good move. It really is appallingly badly marked isn't it.

<snip>
>
>Forest Row came and went - with a little bit of puzzling
>over where the route vanished to - the answer was
>discovered down the side of a fence, rather than continuing
>along the (rather potholed) access road.
>

Just after the side of the fence bit, it goes over smooth
wooden planks. These are _really_ slippery whnen not bone
dry. I have reason to know this.

Oh, and the cafe at Forest Row is _not_ recommended. Service
is slower than a slow thig wrapped up in slow string.
However next to it is the lair of Darth Ian at Future Cycles
who will tempt you with Machines of The Devil.

<snip>

>
>Can't wait to go do it again!

Endorphins, I love 'em.

Tim

Velvet
  
Tim Hall wrote:

<much snippage>

>
> Just after the side of the fence bit, it goes over smooth
> wooden planks. These are _really_ slippery whnen not bone
> dry. I have reason to know this.
>

I'll bear that in mind, though I'm ultra-cautious if any
surface isn't bone dry, never having ridden on anything
that's not, before..

> Oh, and the cafe at Forest Row is _not_ recommended.
> Service is slower than a slow thig wrapped up in slow
> string. However next to it is the lair of Darth Ian
> at Future Cycles who will tempt you with Machines of
> The Devil.

Yes, we discovered this on sat on the short first-ride-of-the-year-for-
me version we did, from e.grinstead to forest row. Visited
Future Cycles then to said cafe, at which point it took
forever - great food but yes the service is appalling in
terms of speed. I'm more than happy to be tempted by
Machines of The Devil, in fact I distincly remember
dribbling over (and wishing I could have a go on) a
customer's windcheetah that was in for a service. One day. I
don't need any converting, I'm there already, just lack the
funds to actually possess my own...

>
> <snip>
>
>
>
>>Can't wait to go do it again!
>
>
>
> Endorphins, I love 'em.
>
> Tim

Don't they wear off though? I still wanna go do it again and
it's over 24 hours later now... :-)

Velvet

Simon Proven
  
Velvet wrote:

> Tim Hall wrote:
>> Velvet wrote:
>>> Can't wait to go do it again!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Endorphins, I love 'em.
>>
>> Tim
>
>
> Don't they wear off though? I still wanna go do it again
> and it's over 24 hours later now... :-)
>
> Velvet

Well you see endorphins are addictive so now you're in the
withdrawl phase. You need your next fix.

Simon

Velvet
  
Simon Proven wrote:

> Velvet wrote:
>
>> Tim Hall wrote:
>>
>>> Velvet wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can't wait to go do it again!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Endorphins, I love 'em.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>> Don't they wear off though? I still wanna go do it again
>> and it's over 24 hours later now... :-)
>>
>> Velvet
>
>
> Well you see endorphins are addictive so now you're in the
> withdrawl phase. You need your next fix.
>
> Simon

Pfft. This is all your fault anyway :-P I'd not even *own*
a bike....

Velvet

Al
  
Velvet <velvet@not.a.valid.domain> wrote in message news:<leSac.711$v%4.5212276@news-text.cableinet.net>...
> Al wrote:
>
Thanks for that, I think I'll start at Groombridge then see
how I feel at Hartfield!

Well I'll post how I got on on Sunday.

Cheers

Al

Al
  
Velvet <velvet@not.a.valid.domain> wrote in message news:<leSac.711$v%4.5212276@news-text.cableinet.net>...

Thanks for that, I'll give it a try from Groombridge & let
you know how I get on.

Cheers Al

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