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Succorso
  
Still waiting for the SPD's ;)

I've decided to start wearing a helmet when cycling; purely
as a lawyer-speak avoidance measure ("...tsk tsk Mrs Smith,
if *only* he'd been wearing a helmet, we'd gladly pay the
insurance... however..." blah blah).

My question is this. Has anyone got any experience of using
BMX style helmets for general road use? When trying them on,
I get a better fit with them, compared to the normal
"cycling" helmets; but my main concern would be whether
there's sufficient ventilation - I just wonder whether they
might get too hot'n sweaty.

There also seem to be fewer 'snag' points on a BMX helmet.
If anyone saw my shape - they would realise aerodynamics are
NOT a factor here!

--
Chris

Peter Clinch
  
Succorso wrote:

> I've decided to start wearing a helmet when cycling;
> purely as a lawyer-speak avoidance measure ("...tsk tsk
> Mrs Smith, if *only* he'd been wearing a helmet, we'd
> gladly pay the insurance... however..." blah blah).

In which case spend a roughly equivalent amount (quite
possibly less) on CTC membership, which will get you access
to legal folk who know all there is to know about that
particular line in Complete Bollox (TM) as part of the
benefits, as well as contributing towards making sure it
doesn't become a popular legal wheeze through CTC's ongoing
campaigning.

There are good reasons to wear helmets, but the above is not
one of them.

Pete.
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33637 Medical Physics, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177
Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk
http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

Succorso
  
Peter Clinch wrote:

> Succorso wrote:
>
>> I've decided to start wearing a helmet when cycling;
>> purely as a lawyer-speak avoidance measure ("...tsk tsk
>> Mrs Smith, if *only* he'd been wearing a helmet, we'd
>> gladly pay the insurance... however..." blah blah).
>
>
> In which case spend a roughly equivalent amount (quite
> possibly less) on CTC membership, which will get you
> access to legal folk who know all there is to know about
> that particular line in Complete Bollox (TM) as part of
> the benefits, as well as contributing towards making sure
> it doesn't become a popular legal wheeze through CTC's
> ongoing campaigning.
>
> There are good reasons to wear helmets, but the above is
> not one of them.
>
> Pete.

You're quite possibly right Pete, but I have been the victim
of Insurance Co lawyers before - and am now probably over
cautious. Either way, I would spare my next of kin the need
to fight...

--
Chris

Johnb
  
Succorso wrote:
>
> Peter Clinch wrote:
>
> > Succorso wrote:
> >
> >> I've decided to start wearing a helmet when cycling;
> >> purely as a lawyer-speak avoidance measure ("...tsk tsk
> >> Mrs Smith, if *only* he'd been wearing a helmet, we'd
> >> gladly pay the insurance... however..." blah blah).
> >
> >
> > In which case spend a roughly equivalent amount (quite
> > possibly less) on CTC membership, which will get you
> > access to legal folk who know all there is to know about
> > that particular line in Complete Bollox (TM) as part of
> > the benefits, as well as contributing towards making
> > sure it doesn't become a popular legal wheeze through
> > CTC's ongoing campaigning.
> >
> > There are good reasons to wear helmets, but the above is
> > not one of them.
> >
> > Pete.
>
> You're quite possibly right Pete, but I have been the
> victim of Insurance Co lawyers before - and am now
> probably over cautious. Either way, I would spare my next
> of kin the need to fight...

Pete is absolutely right. The CTC has already successfully
fought off a number of attempts by the insurance leeches and
would do the same for you if you were a member, so your next
of kin would not need to worry.

John B

Succorso
  
JohnB wrote:

> Succorso wrote:
>
>>Peter Clinch wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Succorso wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I've decided to start wearing a helmet when cycling;
>>>>purely as a lawyer-speak avoidance measure ("...tsk tsk
>>>>Mrs Smith, if *only* he'd been wearing a helmet, we'd
>>>>gladly pay the insurance... however..." blah blah).
>>>
>>>
>>>In which case spend a roughly equivalent amount (quite
>>>possibly less) on CTC membership, which will get you
>>>access to legal folk who know all there is to know about
>>>that particular line in Complete Bollox (TM) as part of
>>>the benefits, as well as contributing towards making sure
>>>it doesn't become a popular legal wheeze through CTC's
>>>ongoing campaigning.
>>>
>>>There are good reasons to wear helmets, but the above is
>>>not one of them.
>>>
>>>Pete.
>>
>>You're quite possibly right Pete, but I have been the
>>victim of Insurance Co lawyers before - and am now
>>probably over cautious. Either way, I would spare my next
>>of kin the need to fight...
>
>
> Pete is absolutely right. The CTC has already successfully
> fought off a number of attempts by the insurance leeches
> and would do the same for you if you were a member, so
> your next of kin would not need to worry.
>
> John B

Well it's certainly an option I hadn't considered; we
already have family membership - I just hadn't put 2 and 2
together ;)

--
Chris

Martin Bulmer
  
In news:c4hc54$9vq$1$830fa79d@news.demon.co.uk,
Succorso <chris@ivy-house.net> expounded sagaciously:
> Still waiting for the SPD's ;)
>
> I've decided to start wearing a helmet when cycling;
> purely as a lawyer-speak avoidance measure ("...tsk tsk
> Mrs Smith, if *only* he'd been wearing a helmet, we'd
> gladly pay the insurance... however..." blah blah).
>
> My question is this. Has anyone got any experience of
> using BMX style helmets for general road use? When trying
> them on, I get a better fit with them, compared to the
> normal "cycling" helmets; but my main concern would be
> whether there's sufficient ventilation - I just wonder
> whether they might get too hot'n sweaty.
>
> There also seem to be fewer 'snag' points on a BMX helmet.
> If anyone saw my shape - they would realise aerodynamics
> are NOT a factor here!

I wore a very cheap BMX type helmet for a while, with small
round holes for ventilation. Too hot. Makes a reasonable
hanging basket, though.
--

Martin Bulmer

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Just Zis Guy
  
Succorso wrote:

> My question is this. Has anyone got any experience of
> using BMX style helmets for general road use? When trying
> them on, I get a better fit with them, compared to the
> normal "cycling" helmets; but my main concern would be
> whether there's sufficient ventilation - I just wonder
> whether they might get too hot'n sweaty. There also seem
> to be fewer 'snag' points on a BMX helmet. If anyone saw
> my shape - they would realise aerodynamics are NOT a
> factor here!

If you actually want a helmet to do anything other than keep
the wife quiet, then a BMX one is a good choice. In order to
do any good a hemet should be as near spherical as possible,
have a hard shell, have as few holes as you can tolerate and
be certified to Snell B95. It should fit closely without
relying on the foam pads, and not move around on your head
when strapped on.

If a BMX helmet fits this set of criteria then buy one. It
will be hideously hot in summer. If you care about the
helmet doing anythign you shouldn't wear anything between
the helmet and your head, so it may also be a bit cold in
the winter. But you will get as much protection as it is
possible for any cycle helmet to give. Sadly, that is not
much. If you are hit by a car or pile up at 20mph, all bets
are still off.

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88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at
Washington University

Succorso
  
Martin Bulmer wrote:
> In news:c4hc54$9vq$1$830fa79d@news.demon.co.uk, Succorso
> <chris@ivy-house.net> expounded sagaciously:
>
>>Still waiting for the SPD's ;)
>>
>>I've decided to start wearing a helmet when cycling;
>>purely as a lawyer-speak avoidance measure ("...tsk tsk
>>Mrs Smith, if *only* he'd been wearing a helmet, we'd
>>gladly pay the insurance... however..." blah blah).
>>
>>My question is this. Has anyone got any experience of
>>using BMX style helmets for general road use? When trying
>>them on, I get a better fit with them, compared to the
>>normal "cycling" helmets; but my main concern would be
>>whether there's sufficient ventilation - I just wonder
>>whether they might get too hot'n sweaty.
>>
>>There also seem to be fewer 'snag' points on a BMX helmet.
>>If anyone saw my shape - they would realise aerodynamics
>>are NOT a factor here!
>
>
> I wore a very cheap BMX type helmet for a while, with
> small round holes for ventilation. Too hot. Makes a
> reasonable hanging basket, though.
> --
>
>
> Martin Bulmer
>
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Thanks - that was my main concern. My local garden centre
has cheaper hanging baskets though... ;)

--
Chris

McBain_v1
  
Originally posted by Just Zis Guy

If you actually want a helmet to do anything other than keep
the wife quiet, then a BMX one is a good choice. In order to
do any good a hemet should be as near spherical as possible,
have a hard shell, have as few holes as you can tolerate and
be certified to Snell B95. It should fit closely without
relying on the foam pads, and not move around on your head
when strapped on.


Guy


Hey Guy, I see that you are quoted again in April's Cycling Plus magazine on the last article. It seems that your comparison of cycling helmets to "plastic covered blancmange" found favour with the article's author :D

You're a regular media sensation ;)

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