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Not short of panniers in the Unfit Family Bike Accessory
Collection. Thinking of the proposed summer trip of Whitley
Bay to Wendling, camping is *not* on the cards, it'll be
B7Bing. So I don't need to be thinking of weighting the bike
down with camping equipment. Looking to do a pannier each
side of the rear rack and bar bag at front. Plus... if not a
rack pack on the top of the rear rack - will a saddle bag
fit okay do you think? Something like a Brooks one or a
Carradice?
Cheers, helen s
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wafflycathcs@aol.comcomcom (dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers) wrote:
>Not short of panniers in the Unfit Family Bike Accessory
>Collection. Thinking of the proposed summer trip of Whitley
>Bay to Wendling, camping is *not* on the cards, it'll be
>B7Bing. So I don't need to be thinking of weighting the
>bike down with camping equipment. Looking to do a pannier
>each side of the rear rack and bar bag at front. Plus... if
>not a rack pack on the top of the rear rack - will a saddle
>bag fit okay do you think? Something like a Brooks one or a
>Carradice?
Not quite sure what you are asking, Helen, but a saddle bag
won't interfere with panniers if that answers your question?
If you *do* need extra panniers I have a very old set of
front and rear Karrimor ones which have been relegated to
Shopping Status.
Something which attaches to the saddle will fit on any bike,
so if Nathan's bike has no rack, he will still have to do
his fair share of load-lugging!
I also have a small Altura bar bag (with klickfix)
(http://www.sjscycles.com/store/item6197.htm), and a
halfords velcro-fixing rackpack (approx 10litres) which you
could borrow if needed.
Mail me if you want to use them ...
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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers wrote:
>
> Not short of panniers in the Unfit Family Bike Accessory
> Collection. Thinking of the proposed summer trip of
> Whitley Bay to Wendling, camping is *not* on the cards,
> it'll be B7Bing. So I don't need to be thinking of
> weighting the bike down with camping equipment. Looking to
> do a pannier each side of the rear rack and bar bag at
> front. Plus... if not a rack pack on the top of the rear
> rack - will a saddle bag fit okay do you think? Something
> like a Brooks one or a Carradice?
I can't see a problem at all with this working. But....
You will end up with a *lot* of space which you *will*
fill. There is a rule about cycle luggage in that what
you take will grow to fill the available space. Your
suggested luggage capacity is far more than I would take
even when camping.
I'd suggest you just keep to two average panniers. I hope
you really enjoy the tour. How long do you intend to take,
and how many miles per day?
John B
In message <20040402153149.29353.00000566@mb-m11.aol.com>,
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<wafflycathcs@aol.comcomcom> writes
>Looking to do a pannier each side of the rear rack and bar
>bag at front. Plus... if not a rack pack on the top of the
>rear rack - will a saddle bag fit okay do you think?
>Something like a Brooks one or a Carradice?
>
A saddlebag is a much better option with panniers than
rack top bag.
Of course most saddles lack the necessary loops nowadays,
you can get little clamp on saddle bag loops, but I'd
recommend something like the Carradice SQR fitment - which
works very well. I reckona saddle bag is much better than
rack top bag and also better than the special 'SQR' bags
that Carradice make that are like enlarged seat packs.
--
Chris French, Leeds
you can save on pannier space by securing spare bib-shorts
by their straps around the seat post and letting them 'fly'
behind to dry off.
Saddle bags should fit OK to the rack with panniers on. It's
quite surprising how little you need to carry on a B&B tour,
especially during the summer period.
dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers wrote:
> Not short of panniers in the Unfit Family Bike Accessory
> Collection. Thinking of the proposed summer trip of
> Whitley Bay to Wendling, camping is *not* on the cards,
> it'll be B7Bing. So I don't need to be thinking of
> weighting the bike down with camping equipment. Looking to
> do a pannier each side of the rear rack and bar bag at
> front. Plus... if not a rack pack on the top of the rear
> rack - will a saddle bag fit okay do you think? Something
> like a Brooks one or a Carradice?
>
> Cheers, helen s
>
>
>
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>Not quite sure what you are asking, Helen, but a saddle bag
>won't interfere with panniers if that answers your
>question?
That's it :-) Thanks.
>If you *do* need extra panniers I have a very old set of
>front and rear Karrimor ones which have been relegated to
>Shopping Status.
Very kind of you. Number of panniers isn't the problem
though - loads of sets in this here household!
>Something which attaches to the saddle will fit on any
>bike, so if Nathan's bike has no rack, he will still have
>to do his fair share of load-lugging!
Oh Nathan will be carrying *his* stuff. He has a nice
tourer. Vernon had a good but paint scratched Nigel Dean
bike. We had the frame sandlbalsted and then powder coated
(Nathan's choice of colour) and had new decals made courtesy
of the nice Mr Whelan :-) Vernon rebuilt the bike, upgrading
the components and put a rear rack on it & mudguards. It's
Nathan's winter trainer/school run bike/tourer.
>I also have a small Altura bar bag (with klickfix)
>(http://www.sjscycles.com/store/item6197.htm), and a
>halfords velcro-fixing rackpack (approx 10litres) which you
>could borrow if needed.
>
>Mail me if you want to use them ...
That's very kind and I appreciate the offer, but Santa also
brought Nathan a nice Altura bar bag in his Christmas
stocking :-) I was just wondering about whether a saddle bag
& panniers would be a good option. Seems it will.
Cheers, helen s
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>A saddlebag is a much better option with panniers than
>rack top bag.
That's what was mulling over in my brain. It's probably
going to be the preferred option.
Cheers, helen s
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>you can save on pannier space by securing spare bib-shorts
>by their straps around the seat post and letting them 'fly'
>behind to dry off.
You know, Pete, I have been known to refer to you as that
nice Mr. Whelan. Now I'm not so sure ;-)
>Saddle bags should fit OK to the rack with panniers on.
>It's quite surprising how little you need to carry on a B&B
>tour, especially during the summer period.
I'm going to draw up a list of everything I *want* to take
and then wheedle it dwon to what is *needed* as I'm sure
that'll be less!
Cheers, helen s
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Front wheel shimmy can be a problem with the combination of
bar bag and rear panniers, so I'd avoid it.
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Helen D. Vecht: helenvecht@zetnet.co.uk Edgware.
In message <2004040311045485140@zetnet.co.uk>, Helen Deborah
Vecht <helenvecht@zetnet.co.uk> writes
>Front wheel shimmy can be a problem with the combination of
>bar bag and rear panniers, so I'd avoid it.
>
It can be yes, but I've ridden loads like that and had
no problem.
Overloading the bar bag is probably the likely reason.
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Chris French, Leeds
chris French <newspost-c-002@familyfrench.co.uk>typed
> In message <2004040311045485140@zetnet.co.uk>, Helen
> Deborah Vecht <helenvecht@zetnet.co.uk> writes
> >Front wheel shimmy can be a problem with the combination
> >of bar bag and rear panniers, so I'd avoid it.
> >
> It can be yes, but I've ridden loads like that and had no
> problem.
> Overloading the bar bag is probably the likely reason.
I think stem length and frame size are also factors. I have
had problems before and suspect Helen's basic dimensions may
be similar to mine.
I like low-rider front panniers. They stop you pulling
wheelies uphill and can be put at the back for going
downhill.
Using panniers that are small enough to use at the front
might prevent overloading...
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Helen D. Vecht: helenvecht@zetnet.co.uk Edgware.
dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers wrote:
>> A saddlebag is a much better option with panniers than
>> rack top bag.
>
> That's what was mulling over in my brain. It's probably
> going to be the preferred option.
>
> Cheers, helen s
>
>
>
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> correct one remove fame & fortune
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For my 3 month ride across America I used a bar bag and two
large panniers with a small underseat wedge type bag with
tools in. I don't want to have to invade my panniers with
dirty fingers. There were two of us so we split the tent.
With no tent and sleeping bag I could have used only one
pannier and the bar bag.
When I was solo in New Zealand and Australia I also used low
riders with small panniers.
"MSeries" <skankmartin@hotmail.com> of wrote:
>dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers wrote:
>>> A saddlebag is a much better option with panniers than
>>> rack top bag.
>>
>> That's what was mulling over in my brain. It's probably
>> going to be the preferred option.
>>
>> Cheers, helen s
>
>For my 3 month ride across America I used a bar bag and two
>large panniers with a small underseat wedge type bag with
>tools in. I don't want to have to invade my panniers with
>dirty fingers. There were two of us so we split the tent.
>With no tent and sleeping bag I could have used only one
>pannier and the bar bag.
For 6 months mostly in SE Asia, no camping, I used two rear
Ortliebs and an underseat wedge bag for tools for just the
same reason. In UK it shouldn't be necessary to carry half a
pannier full of bike spares so there'll be some room for a
few slightly warmer clothes. Keep it to 2 panniers Helen -
as well as less weight it makes taking stuff off the bike
and into B&Bs much easier.
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Steph Peters wrote:
> For 6 months mostly in SE Asia, no camping, I used two
> rear Ortliebs and an underseat wedge bag for tools for
> just the same reason. In UK it shouldn't be necessary
> to carry half a pannier full of bike spares so
> there'll be some
These guys look like they would only need an under
seat wedge!
www.worldnakedbikeride.org
Vincent Wilcox wrote:
> These guys look like they would only need an under seat
> wedge! www.worldnakedbikeride.org
IRTA "seat wedgie" (which was apt).
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