BTW (off subject)

[Tom Kunich]

Sheffield - it didn't take Spanish terrorists long to start
bombing again did it? Do you suppose this is more of that
evil Moroccan terrorists group's work?

Or, like I said, the EFFECTS of that first bombing on the
elections have now given terrorists heart to believe that
they can achieve their most prized goals with enough
violence against innocent civilians?

[Richard Longwoo]

We took a break and went down to a posh tourist cafe where
wannabe suicides hung out round the clock, hoping for the
kind of terrorist bombing which, because they were so rare,
actually made this the slowest form of suicide ever
invented, and was, therefore, a lot more painful and
sickening than the fast kind, and would earn you more
credits in post-life for doing it this way, if they even
counted that kind of thing there.

"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:eI-
rbc.12484$Dv2.3395@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Sheffield - it didn't take Spanish terrorists long to
> start bombing again did it? Do you suppose this is more of
> that evil Moroccan terrorists
group's
> work?
>
> Or, like I said, the EFFECTS of that first bombing on the
> elections have
now
> given terrorists heart to believe that they can achieve
> their most prized goals with enough violence against
> innocent civilians?

[Steven L. Sheff]

On 04/02/2004 10:11 PM, in article
eIrbc.12484$Dv2.3395@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net, "Tom Kunich"
<cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Sheffield - it didn't take Spanish terrorists long to
> start bombing again did it? Do you suppose this is more of
> that evil Moroccan terrorists group's work?

Islamic terrorists, not Spanish. And yes, I do suppose it is
"more of that evil Moroccan terrorists group's work".

From the BBC:

Mr Acebes said: "Our investigation is focusing on two
strands: determining the leaders of the organisation and
links to terrorist and fundamentalist groups, particularly
the Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group."

"Other options are not being ruled out, but primarily the
investigation is going to go in this direction," he told a
news conference.

Mr Acebes said among those detained were several alleged
authors of the
attacks and several accomplices with various degrees of
responsibility.

According to the US State Department, the Moroccan Islamic
Combatant Group emerged in the late 1990s.

It says the group's aims include establishing an Islamic
state in Morocco and that it supports al-Qaeda's holy war
against the West.

> Or, like I said, the EFFECTS of that first bombing on the
> elections have now given terrorists heart to believe that
> they can achieve their most prized goals with enough
> violence against innocent civilians?

The Spanish Government seems to feel like it's Islamic
terrorists, whom we already know have no qualms against
attacking innocent civilians.

There's still no solid evidence that it was ETA, either on
March 11 or today, despite your previous insistence
otherwise.

--
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servitus est ignoratio vis est ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee
sea aye tee why you ti ay aitch aitch tee tea pea colon [for
word] slash [four ward] slash double-you double-yew double-
ewe dot veloworks dot com [four word] slash

[Tom Kunich]

"Steven L. Sheffield" <stevens@veloworks.com> wrote in message
news:BC93AAEF.2A42E%stevens@veloworks.com...
>
> "Other options are not being ruled out, but primarily the
> investigation
is
> going to go in this direction," he told a news conference.

Hmm, "other options".

> It says the group's aims include establishing an Islamic
> state in Morocco and that it supports al-Qaeda's holy war
> against the West.

Well, hell, no wonder they're bombing Spain where the
effects are bound to found an Islamic state in Morocco.

> > Or, like I said, the EFFECTS of that first bombing on
> > the elections have
now
> > given terrorists heart to believe that they can achieve
> > their most
prized
> > goals with enough violence against innocent civilians?
>
> The Spanish Government seems to feel like it's Islamic
> terrorists, whom we already know have no qualms against
> attacking innocent civilians.
>
> There's still no solid evidence that it was ETA, either on
> March 11 or today, despite your previous insistence
> otherwise.

There's no solid evidence save the fact that Spain is a
nothing country on the Iberian peninsula whose only claim to
fame is that they have a Basque Separatist movement who are
willing to kill civilians to effect government policies.

Spaniards are about the nicest people in the world and have
been since Great Britain knocked the crap out of them during
a few God-sent storms. That terrorists are willing to do
this to Spain should be a pretty fair warning to the rest of
the world.

Whether it's a home grown terrorist movement or some lunatic
Moroccan movement that doesn't have their eyes focused on
any real results save dead bodies becomes rather a moot
point. To terrorists the only way they can lose to be
prevented from killing other people and unfortunately
there's only one way to do that.

[Steven L. Sheff]

On 04/03/2004 04:22 PM, in article
WGHbc.14740$lt2.10430@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net, "Tom Kunich"
<cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Well, hell, no wonder they're bombing Spain where the
> effects are bound to found an Islamic state in Morocco.

Morocco is a former Spanish colony, and the Spaniards
still own and maintain a chunk of Morocco across from
Gibralter (a bit of Spain still owned by the British), in
Ceuta and Melilla.

To Moroccans, Spain is the nearest symbol of the West.

--
Steven L. Sheffield stevens at veloworks dot com veloworks
at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net bellum pax est libertas
servitus est ignoratio vis est ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee
sea aye tee why you ti ay aitch aitch tee tea pea colon [for
word] slash [four ward] slash double-you double-yew double-
ewe dot veloworks dot com [four word] slash

[Howard Kveck]

In article <BC94C100.2A53C%stevens@veloworks.com>,
"Steven L. Sheffield" <stevens@veloworks.com> wrote:

> On 04/03/2004 04:22 PM, in article
> WGHbc.14740$lt2.10430@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net,
> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Well, hell, no wonder they're bombing Spain where the
> > effects are bound to found an Islamic state in Morocco.
>
>
>
> Morocco is a former Spanish colony, and the Spaniards
> still own and maintain a chunk of Morocco across from
> Gibralter (a bit of Spain still owned by the British), in
> Ceuta and Melilla.
>
> To Moroccans, Spain is the nearest symbol of the West.

And to some of those Moroccans, Spain is also the nearest
symbol of oppression, hence the attacks.

The Islam that is practised there is pretty restrictive.
An interesting look at it can be found in Anthony
Bourdain's book "A Cook's Tour".

--
tanx, Howard

Q: Why did the metalhead cross the road?
R: Because he's a gullible moron who'll buy
anything with a skull on it.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

[Gwhite]

"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Spaniards are about the nicest people in the world and
> have been since Great Britain knocked the crap out of them
> during a few God-sent storms.

They were especially nice in eventual Mexico. Drake
drove them off in 1588, where on their way around the
islands and back to Spain, the weather, winds, and
current really punched them out. Mexico didn't become
independent until 1820.

[Tom Kunich]

"gwhite" <gwhite@ti.com> wrote in message
news:698b8866.0404052016.53ce0e22@posting.google.com...
> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Spaniards are about the nicest people in the world and
> > have been since
Great
> > Britain knocked the crap out of them during a few God-
> > sent storms.
>
> They were especially nice in eventual Mexico. Drake
> drove them off in 1588, where on their way around the
> islands and back to Spain, the weather, winds, and
> current really punched them out. Mexico didn't become
> independent until 1820.

No wonder present day Moroccans are killing Spanish
civilians.