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I know, I know- go see a Dr. I probably will. But until then-
here's the question: What the characteristics of stress
fracture? I can feel pain in my right shin a bit when
running, but can compensate with a slight change in stride.
The pain isn't bad.
I've tried tapping the shin bone but can't tell if the area
is all that sore or not. The strange thing is- the pain is
worst when I first wake up and get out of bed and start
walking. Yesterday was very short run (3 miles easy pace).
The pain the shin was sharp as I was walking to the start.
Once I started running, it felt very slight- really just a
dull, light painful feeling. After the run, no more pain
when walking.
So~ stress fracture or something else?
Thanks...
I'm not an expert, but had done some readings on injury because I'm
having problems with my right shin.
From what I read, I guess you don't have stress fracture because you
feel worst when waking up. Take a look at this article on runner's world
website:
http://www.runnersworld.com/home/0,1300,1-78-79-529,FF.html?site=RunnersWorld
Note in the paragraph about stress fracture a doctor says
that "Usually stress fractures feel better in the morning
because you've rested the bone all night."
bikeme wrote:
> I know, I know- go see a Dr. I probably will. But until
> then- here's the question: What the characteristics of
> stress fracture? I can feel pain in my right shin a bit
> when running, but can compensate with a slight change in
> stride. The pain isn't bad.
>
> I've tried tapping the shin bone but can't tell if the
> area is all that sore or not. The strange thing is- the
> pain is worst when I first wake up and get out of bed and
> start walking. Yesterday was very short run (3 miles easy
> pace). The pain the shin was sharp as I was walking to the
> start. Once I started running, it felt very slight- really
> just a dull, light painful feeling. After the run, no more
> pain when walking.
>
> So~ stress fracture or something else?
>
> Thanks...
In article <TObcc.12568$pM1.9738@lakeread06>, bikeme wrote:
> I know, I know- go see a Dr. I probably will. But until
> then- here's the question: What the characteristics of
> stress fracture? I can feel pain in my right shin a bit
> when running, but can compensate with a slight change in
> stride. The pain isn't bad.
>
> I've tried tapping the shin bone but can't tell if the
> area is all that sore or not. The strange thing is- the
> pain is worst when I first wake up and get out of bed and
> start walking. Yesterday was very short run (3 miles easy
> pace). The pain the shin was sharp as I was walking to the
> start. Once I started running, it felt very slight- really
> just a dull, light painful feeling. After the run, no more
> pain when walking.
>
> So~ stress fracture or something else?
Could be "shin splints" (tendonitis). Doesn't sound much
like a stress fracture, a stress fracture should get worse
as you run, whereas pain from soft tissue injuries
attenuates as the run progresses. Your description of the
pain -- peaking in the morning upon arising, and generally
fading during the run is also the way soft tissue injuries
(tendons) work. Surprisingly, shin splints can involve sharp
jolting pain.
Here's what I'd suggest: try taking a couple of days off,
say 3 days or so. See if you can run without pain after
that. I had a problem with shin splints once and the problem
was out the way in less than a week because I took the
bitter bill of downtime early.
Once you return to training, you will need to take a good
hard look at your program and work out what caused the
problem. Running too fast or too much speed work, and too-much-too-
soon are leading causes of shin splints.
Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
Thank you so much for the replies.
I have been doing some stupid things in my training. For
instance, I've done speedwork during a run. And I felt so
good I allowed it to become a long run, even doing speedwork
again towards the end of the run (12-15 mile runs). Not a
good thing to combine both.
Last week, I did a fast six-miler in the morning. Then I ran
another 4 on hills with a friend in the afternoon. And-
instead of resting the next day, I did another six-miler in
the morning. Yeah- I needed this reminder that I'm far from
bulletproof.
I'll take some time off (few days) and just spin on the bike
or something (low gear) and see how it goes.
Thanks again!
"Donovan Rebbechi" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message
news:slrnc72sff.78d.abuse@panix2.panix.com...
: In article <TObcc.12568$pM1.9738@lakeread06>, bikeme
: wrote:
: > I know, I know- go see a Dr. I probably will. But until
: > then- here's
the
: > question: What the characteristics of stress fracture? I
: > can feel pain
in
: > my right shin a bit when running, but can compensate
: > with a slight
change in
: > stride. The pain isn't bad.
: >
: > I've tried tapping the shin bone but can't tell if the
: > area is all that
sore
: > or not. The strange thing is- the pain is worst when I
: > first wake up
and
: > get out of bed and start walking. Yesterday was very
: > short run (3 miles easy pace). The pain the shin was
: > sharp as I was walking to the start. Once I started
: > running, it felt very slight- really just a dull, light
: > painful feeling. After the run, no more pain when
: > walking.
: >
: > So~ stress fracture or something else?
:
: Could be "shin splints" (tendonitis). Doesn't sound much
: like a stress fracture, a stress fracture should get
: worse as you run, whereas pain from soft tissue injuries
: attenuates as the run progresses. Your description of the
: pain -- peaking in the morning upon arising, and
: generally fading
during
: the run is also the way soft tissue injuries (tendons)
: work. Surprisingly,
shin
: splints can involve sharp jolting pain.
:
: Here's what I'd suggest: try taking a couple of days off,
: say 3 days or
so. See
: if you can run without pain after that. I had a problem
: with shin splints
once
: and the problem was out the way in less than a week
: because I took the
bitter
: bill of downtime early.
:
: Once you return to training, you will need to take a good
: hard look at
your
: program and work out what caused the problem. Running too
: fast or too much speed work, and too-much-too-soon are
: leading causes of shin splints.
:
: Cheers,
: --
: Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
hey bikeme! nice to see you in alternate environs.
hope the pain subsides. i, too, have had stress fracture
fears recently. a biker turned experimental runner, but
still somewhat skeptical of all the potential impact. at
least cycling is nice to the bod, although one longs for use
on the underside of the thigh.
(are my posts showing up here?!)
\\ - - // ( @ @ ) +--------oOOo-(_)--oOOo----
+ +-------------------Oooo---+ oooO (
) ( ) ) / \ ( (_
Virginiaz? That's where I'm located...
Riding is awesome, but the toll on the skeletal frame is
huge. Bicycle Mag did a feature on it recently. Running adds
weight-bearing to the mix, helping to build-up the bones.
The impact of running is an issue, but there are safety
measures- no more than 10% increase in speed or distance
per week, etc. And the body does adapt over time. I'm now
running 40 miles per week. I've been a bit reckless in my
training, though...
"Virginiaz" <virginiaz@aol.commentary> wrote in message news:20040405124929.20570.00000672@mb-
m07.aol.com...
: hey bikeme! nice to see you in alternate environs.
:
: hope the pain subsides. i, too, have had stress fracture
: fears recently.
a
: biker turned experimental runner, but still somewhat
: skeptical of all the potential impact. at least cycling is
: nice to the bod, although one longs
for
: use on the underside of the thigh.
:
: (are my posts showing up here?!)
:
: \\ - - // ( @ @ ) +--------oOOo-(_)--oOOo----
: + +-------------------Oooo---+ oooO
: ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_
Speaking as a biker/runner, I'd very much recommend
alternating your running and biking days until your
connective tissue toughens up a bit from the running. It
took me on the order of a year to really make the
transition. I still like to x-train with the bike as it
helps with my recovery and loosens everything up.
As a shin stress fracture sufferer, I can tell you that the
pain of running on a stress fracture can bring tears to your
eyes, make you limp when you're walking, feel like someone
sawed your tibia in two ... you get the idea. It's not
something you can avoid by adjusting your stride.
In addition to Donovan's good advice, I'd add take a look
at your shoes if rest days and lower intensity don't solve
the problem.
Scott
bikeme wrote:
> Thank you so much for the replies.
>
> I have been doing some stupid things in my training. For
> instance, I've done speedwork during a run. And I felt so
> good I allowed it to become a long run, even doing
> speedwork again towards the end of the run (12-15 mile
> runs). Not a good thing to combine both.
>
> Last week, I did a fast six-miler in the morning. Then I
> ran another 4 on hills with a friend in the afternoon. And-
> instead of resting the next day, I did another six-miler
> in the morning. Yeah- I needed this reminder that I'm far
> from bulletproof.
>
> I'll take some time off (few days) and just spin on the
> bike or something (low gear) and see how it goes.
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
> "Donovan Rebbechi" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:slrnc72sff.78d.abuse@panix2.panix.com...
> : In article <TObcc.12568$pM1.9738@lakeread06>, bikeme
> : wrote:
> : > I know, I know- go see a Dr. I probably will. But
> : > until then- here's
> the
> : > question: What the characteristics of stress fracture?
> : > I can feel pain
> in
> : > my right shin a bit when running, but can compensate
> : > with a slight
> change in
> : > stride. The pain isn't bad.
> : >
> : > I've tried tapping the shin bone but can't tell if the
> : > area is all that
> sore
> : > or not. The strange thing is- the pain is worst when I
> : > first wake up
> and
> : > get out of bed and start walking. Yesterday was very
> : > short run (3 miles easy pace). The pain the shin was
> : > sharp as I was walking to the start. Once I started
> : > running, it felt very slight- really just a dull,
> : > light painful feeling. After the run, no more pain
> : > when walking.
> : >
> : > So~ stress fracture or something else?
> :
> : Could be "shin splints" (tendonitis). Doesn't sound much
> : like a stress fracture, a stress fracture should get
> : worse as you run, whereas pain from soft tissue injuries
> : attenuates as the run progresses. Your description of
> : the pain -- peaking in the morning upon arising, and
> : generally fading
> during
> : the run is also the way soft tissue injuries (tendons)
> : work. Surprisingly,
> shin
> : splints can involve sharp jolting pain.
> :
> : Here's what I'd suggest: try taking a couple of days
> : off, say 3 days or
> so. See
> : if you can run without pain after that. I had a problem
> : with shin splints
> once
> : and the problem was out the way in less than a week
> : because I took the
> bitter
> : bill of downtime early.
> :
> : Once you return to training, you will need to take a
> : good hard look at
> your
> : program and work out what caused the problem. Running
> : too fast or too much speed work, and too-much-too-soon
> : are leading causes of shin splints.
> :
> : Cheers,
> : --
> : Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
Thanks, Scott. Actually, although I've done a few
triathlons, I spent the past year concentrating mostly on
running. Did a marathon this past November. It's the biking
I've been neglecting. Just getting back into it and it's
killing my Achilles Tendonitis. Oh well- always something!
Makes overcoming that much sweeter...
Thanks again, Brian
"Scott Williams" <swims@yewmich.edu> wrote in message
news:uGCcc.3753$Nz2.80827@news.itd.umich.edu...
: Speaking as a biker/runner, I'd very much recommend
: alternating your running and biking days until your
: connective tissue toughens up a bit from the running. It
: took me on the order of a year to really make the
: transition. I still like to x-train with the bike as it
: helps with my recovery and loosens everything up.
:
: As a shin stress fracture sufferer, I can tell you that
: the pain of running on a stress fracture can bring tears
: to your eyes, make you limp when you're walking, feel like
: someone sawed your tibia in two ... you get the idea. It's
: not something you can avoid by adjusting your stride.
:
: In addition to Donovan's good advice, I'd add take a look
: at your shoes if rest days and lower intensity don't solve
: the problem.
:
: Scott
:
: bikeme wrote:
: > Thank you so much for the replies.
: >
: > I have been doing some stupid things in my training. For
: > instance, I've done speedwork during a run. And I felt
: > so good I allowed it to become
a
: > long run, even doing speedwork again towards the end of
: > the run (12-15
mile
: > runs). Not a good thing to combine both.
: >
: > Last week, I did a fast six-miler in the morning. Then I
: > ran another 4
on
: > hills with a friend in the afternoon. And- instead of
: > resting the next
day,
: > I did another six-miler in the morning. Yeah- I needed
: > this reminder
that
: > I'm far from bulletproof.
: >
: > I'll take some time off (few days) and just spin on the
: > bike or
something
: > (low gear) and see how it goes.
: >
: > Thanks again!
: >
: >
: > "Donovan Rebbechi" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message
: > news:slrnc72sff.78d.abuse@panix2.panix.com...
: > : In article <TObcc.12568$pM1.9738@lakeread06>, bikeme
: > : wrote:
: > : > I know, I know- go see a Dr. I probably will. But
: > : > until then-
here's
: > the
: > : > question: What the characteristics of stress
: > : > fracture? I can feel
pain
: > in
: > : > my right shin a bit when running, but can compensate
: > : > with a slight
: > change in
: > : > stride. The pain isn't bad.
: > : >
: > : > I've tried tapping the shin bone but can't tell if
: > : > the area is all
that
: > sore
: > : > or not. The strange thing is- the pain is worst when
: > : > I first wake
up
: > and
: > : > get out of bed and start walking. Yesterday was very
: > : > short run (3
miles
: > : > easy pace). The pain the shin was sharp as I was
: > : > walking to the
start.
: > : > Once I started running, it felt very slight- really
: > : > just a dull,
light
: > : > painful feeling. After the run, no more pain when
: > : > walking.
: > : >
: > : > So~ stress fracture or something else?
: > :
: > : Could be "shin splints" (tendonitis). Doesn't sound
: > : much like a stress fracture, a stress fracture should
: > : get worse as you run, whereas pain
from
: > : soft tissue injuries attenuates as the run progresses.
: > : Your
description of
: > : the pain -- peaking in the morning upon arising, and
: > : generally fading
: > during
: > : the run is also the way soft tissue injuries (tendons)
: > : work.
Surprisingly,
: > shin
: > : splints can involve sharp jolting pain.
: > :
: > : Here's what I'd suggest: try taking a couple of days
: > : off, say 3 days
or
: > so. See
: > : if you can run without pain after that. I had a
: > : problem with shin
splints
: > once
: > : and the problem was out the way in less than a week
: > : because I took the
: > bitter
: > : bill of downtime early.
: > :
: > : Once you return to training, you will need to take a
: > : good hard look at
: > your
: > : program and work out what caused the problem. Running
: > : too fast or too
much
: > : speed work, and too-much-too-soon are leading causes
: > : of shin splints.
: > :
: > : Cheers,
: > : --
: > : Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
: >
:
well shoot, you know the drill.
do i recognize your handle from wreck.bikes.racing (haven't
followed that group for quite awhile)?
when running beats my legs up, i find the biking very
soothing. interesting your achilles hurt from biking. hmmmm.
keep the rubber side down. :-)
scott
bikeme wrote:
> Thanks, Scott. Actually, although I've done a few
> triathlons, I spent the past year concentrating mostly on
> running. Did a marathon this past November. It's the
> biking I've been neglecting. Just getting back into it and
> it's killing my Achilles Tendonitis. Oh well- always
> something! Makes overcoming that much sweeter...
>
> Thanks again, Brian
>
>
> "Scott Williams" <swims@yewmich.edu> wrote in message
> news:uGCcc.3753$Nz2.80827@news.itd.umich.edu...
> : Speaking as a biker/runner, I'd very much recommend
> : alternating your running and biking days until your
> : connective tissue toughens up a bit from the running. It
> : took me on the order of a year to really make the
> : transition. I still like to x-train with the bike as it
> : helps with my recovery and loosens everything up.
> :
> : As a shin stress fracture sufferer, I can tell you that
> : the pain of running on a stress fracture can bring tears
> : to your eyes, make you limp when you're walking, feel
> : like someone sawed your tibia in two ... you get the
> : idea. It's not something you can avoid by adjusting your
> : stride.
> :
> : In addition to Donovan's good advice, I'd add take a
> : look at your shoes if rest days and lower intensity
> : don't solve the problem.
> :
> : Scott
> :
> : bikeme wrote:
> : > Thank you so much for the replies.
> : >
> : > I have been doing some stupid things in my training.
> : > For instance, I've done speedwork during a run. And I
> : > felt so good I allowed it to become
> a
> : > long run, even doing speedwork again towards the end
> : > of the run (12-15
> mile
> : > runs). Not a good thing to combine both.
> : >
> : > Last week, I did a fast six-miler in the morning. Then
> : > I ran another 4
> on
> : > hills with a friend in the afternoon. And- instead of
> : > resting the next
> day,
> : > I did another six-miler in the morning. Yeah- I needed
> : > this reminder
> that
> : > I'm far from bulletproof.
> : >
> : > I'll take some time off (few days) and just spin on
> : > the bike or
> something
> : > (low gear) and see how it goes.
> : >
> : > Thanks again!
> : >
> : >
> : > "Donovan Rebbechi" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message
> : > news:slrnc72sff.78d.abuse@panix2.panix.com...
> : > : In article <TObcc.12568$pM1.9738@lakeread06>, bikeme
> : > : wrote:
> : > : > I know, I know- go see a Dr. I probably will. But
> : > : > until then-
> here's
> : > the
> : > : > question: What the characteristics of stress
> : > : > fracture? I can feel
> pain
> : > in
> : > : > my right shin a bit when running, but can
> : > : > compensate with a slight
> : > change in
> : > : > stride. The pain isn't bad.
> : > : >
> : > : > I've tried tapping the shin bone but can't tell if
> : > : > the area is all
> that
> : > sore
> : > : > or not. The strange thing is- the pain is worst
> : > : > when I first wake
> up
> : > and
> : > : > get out of bed and start walking. Yesterday was
> : > : > very short run (3
> miles
> : > : > easy pace). The pain the shin was sharp as I was
> : > : > walking to the
> start.
> : > : > Once I started running, it felt very slight-
> : > : > really just a dull,
> light
> : > : > painful feeling. After the run, no more pain when
> : > : > walking.
> : > : >
> : > : > So~ stress fracture or something else?
> : > :
> : > : Could be "shin splints" (tendonitis). Doesn't sound
> : > : much like a stress fracture, a stress fracture
> : > : should get worse as you run, whereas pain
> from
> : > : soft tissue injuries attenuates as the run
> : > : progresses. Your
> description of
> : > : the pain -- peaking in the morning upon arising, and
> : > : generally fading
> : > during
> : > : the run is also the way soft tissue injuries
> : > : (tendons) work.
> Surprisingly,
> : > shin
> : > : splints can involve sharp jolting pain.
> : > :
> : > : Here's what I'd suggest: try taking a couple of days
> : > : off, say 3 days
> or
> : > so. See
> : > : if you can run without pain after that. I had a
> : > : problem with shin
> splints
> : > once
> : > : and the problem was out the way in less than a week
> : > : because I took the
> : > bitter
> : > : bill of downtime early.
> : > :
> : > : Once you return to training, you will need to take a
> : > : good hard look at
> : > your
> : > : program and work out what caused the problem.
> : > : Running too fast or too
> much
> : > : speed work, and too-much-too-soon are leading causes
> : > : of shin splints.
> : > :
> : > : Cheers,
> : > : --
> : > : Donovan Rebbechi
> : > : http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
> : >
> : >
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
<snip>
> ... pain from soft tissue injuries attenuates as the run
> progresses.
Why exactly is this, Donovan? Is it because you warm up and
tissue loosens up, or is it more a function of endorphins
masking the pain?
--
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excellent question!
"eNo" <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:DKVcc.7$9f7.0@dfw-
service2.ext.ray.com...
: Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
:
: <snip>
: > ... pain from soft tissue injuries attenuates as the run
: > progresses.
:
: Why exactly is this, Donovan? Is it because you warm up
: and tissue loosens up, or is it more a function of
: endorphins masking the pain?
:
: --
: ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,-
: ,,,ø¤º eNo "If you can't go fast, go long." ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,-
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Must be a different bikeme in that group...
Yeah, achilles is tough. Took off from running Monday and
Tuesday. Ran 12 today, but not very fast. Achilles was fried
by the end...
"Scott Williams" <swims@yewmich.edu> wrote in message
news:2rTcc.3782$Nz2.81355@news.itd.umich.edu...
: well shoot, you know the drill.
:
: do i recognize your handle from wreck.bikes.racing
: (haven't followed that group for quite awhile)?
:
: when running beats my legs up, i find the biking
: very soothing. interesting your achilles hurt from
: biking. hmmmm.
:
: keep the rubber side down. :-)
:
: scott
:
: bikeme wrote:
:
: > Thanks, Scott. Actually, although I've done a few
: > triathlons, I spent
the
: > past year concentrating mostly on running. Did a
: > marathon this past November. It's the biking I've been
: > neglecting. Just getting back into
it
: > and it's killing my Achilles Tendonitis. Oh well- always
: > something!
Makes
: > overcoming that much sweeter...
: >
: > Thanks again, Brian
: >
: >
: > "Scott Williams" <swims@yewmich.edu> wrote in message
: > news:uGCcc.3753$Nz2.80827@news.itd.umich.edu...
: > : Speaking as a biker/runner, I'd very much recommend
: > : alternating your running and biking days until your
: > : connective tissue toughens up a bit from the running.
: > : It took me on the order of a year to really make the
: > : transition. I still like to x-train with the bike as
: > : it helps with my recovery and loosens everything up.
: > :
: > : As a shin stress fracture sufferer, I can tell you
: > : that the pain of running on a stress fracture can
: > : bring tears to your eyes, make you
limp
: > : when you're walking, feel like someone sawed your
: > : tibia in two ... you get the idea. It's not something
: > : you can avoid by adjusting your
stride.
: > :
: > : In addition to Donovan's good advice, I'd add take a
: > : look at your
shoes
: > : if rest days and lower intensity don't solve the
: > : problem.
: > :
: > : Scott
: > :
: > : bikeme wrote:
: > : > Thank you so much for the replies.
: > : >
: > : > I have been doing some stupid things in my training.
: > : > For instance,
I've
: > : > done speedwork during a run. And I felt so good I
: > : > allowed it to
become
: > a
: > : > long run, even doing speedwork again towards the end
: > : > of the run
(12-15
: > mile
: > : > runs). Not a good thing to combine both.
: > : >
: > : > Last week, I did a fast six-miler in the morning.
: > : > Then I ran
another 4
: > on
: > : > hills with a friend in the afternoon. And- instead
: > : > of resting the
next
: > day,
: > : > I did another six-miler in the morning. Yeah- I
: > : > needed this
reminder
: > that
: > : > I'm far from bulletproof.
: > : >
: > : > I'll take some time off (few days) and just spin on
: > : > the bike or
: > something
: > : > (low gear) and see how it goes.
: > : >
: > : > Thanks again!
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > "Donovan Rebbechi" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message
: > : > news:slrnc72sff.78d.abuse@panix2.panix.com...
: > : > : In article <TObcc.12568$pM1.9738@lakeread06>,
: > : > : bikeme wrote:
: > : > : > I know, I know- go see a Dr. I probably will.
: > : > : > But until then-
: > here's
: > : > the
: > : > : > question: What the characteristics of stress
: > : > : > fracture? I can
feel
: > pain
: > : > in
: > : > : > my right shin a bit when running, but can
: > : > : > compensate with a
slight
: > : > change in
: > : > : > stride. The pain isn't bad.
: > : > : >
: > : > : > I've tried tapping the shin bone but can't tell
: > : > : > if the area is
all
: > that
: > : > sore
: > : > : > or not. The strange thing is- the pain is worst
: > : > : > when I first
wake
: > up
: > : > and
: > : > : > get out of bed and start walking. Yesterday was
: > : > : > very short run
(3
: > miles
: > : > : > easy pace). The pain the shin was sharp as I was
: > : > : > walking to the
: > start.
: > : > : > Once I started running, it felt very slight-
: > : > : > really just a dull,
: > light
: > : > : > painful feeling. After the run, no more pain
: > : > : > when walking.
: > : > : >
: > : > : > So~ stress fracture or something else?
: > : > :
: > : > : Could be "shin splints" (tendonitis). Doesn't
: > : > : sound much like a
stress
: > : > : fracture, a stress fracture should get worse as
: > : > : you run, whereas
pain
: > from
: > : > : soft tissue injuries attenuates as the run
: > : > : progresses. Your
: > description of
: > : > : the pain -- peaking in the morning upon arising,
: > : > : and generally
fading
: > : > during
: > : > : the run is also the way soft tissue injuries
: > : > : (tendons) work.
: > Surprisingly,
: > : > shin
: > : > : splints can involve sharp jolting pain.
: > : > :
: > : > : Here's what I'd suggest: try taking a couple of
: > : > : days off, say 3
days
: > or
: > : > so. See
: > : > : if you can run without pain after that. I had a
: > : > : problem with shin
: > splints
: > : > once
: > : > : and the problem was out the way in less than a
: > : > : week because I took
the
: > : > bitter
: > : > : bill of downtime early.
: > : > :
: > : > : Once you return to training, you will need to take
: > : > : a good hard
look at
: > : > your
: > : > : program and work out what caused the problem.
: > : > : Running too fast or
too
: > much
: > : > : speed work, and too-much-too-soon are leading
: > : > : causes of shin
splints.
: > : > :
: > : > : Cheers,
: > : > : --
: > : > : Donovan Rebbechi
: > : > : http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
: > : >
: > : >
: >
:
In article <DKVcc.7$9f7.0@dfw-service2.ext.ray.com>, eNo wrote:
> Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
><snip>
>> ... pain from soft tissue injuries attenuates as the run
>> progresses.
>
> Why exactly is this, Donovan? Is it because you warm up
> and tissue loosens up, or is it more a function of
> endorphins masking the pain?
My money would be on the former. It's some kind of warmup
effect -- if it were endorphins, one would expect that the
effect would be related to intensity, but as far as I can
tell, it isn't. For example, even walking to the bathroom
after getting out of bed is enough to attenuate the "morning
soreness" one gets with soft tissue injuries. Also, the
endorphins explanation doesn't explain why the same doesn't
happen with other injuries (like stress fractures where the
pain increases during the run)
Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
"bikeme" <bikeme@cox.net> wrote in message news:<TObcc.12568$pM1.9738@lakeread06>...
> I know, I know- go see a Dr. I probably will. But until
> then- here's the question: What the characteristics of
> stress fracture? I can feel pain in my right shin a bit
> when running, but can compensate with a slight change in
> stride. The pain isn't bad.
>
> I've tried tapping the shin bone but can't tell if the
> area is all that sore or not. The strange thing is- the
> pain is worst when I first wake up and get out of bed and
> start walking. Yesterday was very short run (3 miles easy
> pace). The pain the shin was sharp as I was walking to the
> start. Once I started running, it felt very slight- really
> just a dull, light painful feeling. After the run, no more
> pain when walking.
>
> So~ stress fracture or something else?
>
> Thanks...
It's a minor muscle atrophy. Go out and run a 30 miler
barefoot, it'll be fine after that.
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