Statins and Running
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I am personally starting my third year of statin
recovery. I know now I will never really fully recover.
But what I wonder is if I really am unusual or if runners
often have problems with the statin class of drugs. So,
if there is anyone on the newsgroup that has taken one of
these drugs for five years or more I would be interested
in hearing what, if any, impact this may have had on your
ability to run.
TIA
how did it affect you?
"flyrcalot" <bm459@scn.org> wrote in message
news:d47da581.0404061607.590ec030@posting.google.com...
> I am personally starting my third year of statin
> recovery. I know now I will never really fully recover.
> But what I wonder is if I really am unusual or if runners
> often have problems with the statin class of drugs. So,
> if there is anyone on the newsgroup that has taken one of
> these drugs for five years or more I would be interested
> in hearing what, if any, impact this may have had on your
> ability to run.
>
> TIA
I'm hoping several thousand kcals of aerobic exercise a week
will keep my "drano" (HDL) cholestorol high enough to never
need statins.
When my father took them, he lost his ability to walk from
the neuropathy side effect. Coming back very slowly since
stopping the medicine.
rick++ wrote:
> I'm hoping several thousand kcals of aerobic exercise a
> week will keep my "drano" (HDL) cholestorol high enough to
> never need statins.
>
> When my father took them, he lost his ability to walk from
> the neuropathy side effect. Coming back very slowly since
> stopping the medicine.
Yeah. I never want to take these drugs. When I went in for
my physical, the doctor told me that a recent study for
diabetics indicated that the "bad" cholesterol level should
be below 100. Because of that, the recommendation now is
that *everyone*--or so she thought--should be below 100.
Mine came out at 103 (130 is max, I believe), with the good
cholesterol at 56 (min is 40), blood pressure at 107 over
70. I'm just waiting for her to call me to push one of these
drugs on me. Geez.
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"rick++" <rick303@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> I'm hoping several thousand kcals of aerobic exercise a
> week will keep my "drano" (HDL) cholestorol high enough to
> never need statins.
>
> When my father took them, he lost his ability to walk from
> the neuropathy side effect. Coming back very slowly since
> stopping the medicine.
I'm interested in this topic, but didn't see the original
post for some reason, so I have no idea what was originally
being discussed or who you a replying to.... I will check
Google groups for it, but there's usually a delay in seeing
new posts.
cheers,
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insecure people are the ones you see, putting other people
down constantly."
"SwStudio" <shhhh_secrets@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "rick++" <rick303@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > I'm hoping several thousand kcals of aerobic exercise a
> > week will keep my "drano" (HDL) cholestorol high enough
> > to never need statins.
> >
> > When my father took them, he lost his ability to walk
> > from the
neuropathy
> > side effect. Coming back very slowly since stopping the
> > medicine.
>
>
>
> I'm interested in this topic, but didn't see the original
> post for some reason, so I have no idea what was
> originally being discussed or who you a replying to.... I
> will check Google groups for it, but there's usually a
> delay in seeing new posts.
Nevermind - it just appeared (original post). It's odd to
see a "re" post first!
cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON) www.allfalldown.org "The most
insecure people are the ones you see, putting other people
down constantly."
SwStudio wrote:
> "SwStudio" <shhhh_secrets@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3HVcc.20566$n37.1634358@read2.cgocable.net...
>
>>"rick++" <rick303@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>>>I'm hoping several thousand kcals of aerobic exercise a
>>>week will keep my "drano" (HDL) cholestorol high enough
>>>to never need statins.
>>>
>>>When my father took them, he lost his ability to walk
>>>from the
>
> neuropathy
>
>>>side effect. Coming back very slowly since stopping the
>>>medicine.
>>
>>
>>
>>I'm interested in this topic, but didn't see the original
>>post for some reason, so I have no idea what was
>>originally being discussed or who you a replying to.... I
>>will check Google groups for it, but there's usually a
>>delay in seeing new posts.
>
>
>
> Nevermind - it just appeared (original post). It's odd to
> see a "re" post first!
It all has to do with this whole "network is the computer"
thing. If one part of the network is faster than another, it
is conceivable that a reply can travel faster than the
original question.
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What are the issues with these drugs regarding running? What
is statin recovery? Ed
"flyrcalot" <bm459@scn.org> wrote in message
news:d47da581.0404061607.590ec030@posting.google.com...
> I am personally starting my third year of statin
> recovery. I know now I will never really fully recover.
> But what I wonder is if I really am unusual or if runners
> often have problems with the statin class of drugs. So,
> if there is anyone on the newsgroup that has taken one of
> these drugs for five years or more I would be interested
> in hearing what, if any, impact this may have had on your
> ability to run.
>
> TIA
-Muscle weakness and very, very sore. Lost the use of my
left arm do to soreness in upper arm. Could only comfortably
lift about 25 pounds towards the end.
-Sore joints. Knees, wrists and knuckles in my hands were
the worst.
-Loss of stamina. Unable to run 100 yards before exhaustion.
-Muscle cramps. From a couple of the statins the cramps were
unbelievable. The pain was horrid.
-Peripheral neuropathy, mainly feet.
-Personality became very violent. Wanted to kill someone.
Like anyone was ok. Two would be even better. Preferred
weapon was a rusty butter knife.
-Probably knocked my IQ by at least 25 points judging by
what it did to my card game.
Doctor kept telling me I was getting old and things were
wearing out.
Then there were some other minor things to boot. Today the
muscle soreness is about 99% gone. The arthritis is gone. I
can comfortably lift a 85 pound sack of portland cement and
carry it across the yard. No more muscle cramps.
Personallity back to its normal abnormal state. The
neuropathy is mostly gone. But I need to run at least five
days a week to get up to 25 miles a week. Lay off for five
days and I loose stamina like crazy. My long runs are not
long as I do not have the stamina. My legs turn to mush at 6
or 7 miles. Lay off for a week and I can only run a four
mile long run. No speed at all anymore. Total plodzilla
jogger. Hate it when the women are running in my direction
as they all pass me. Seldom time myself but when I have my
best mile time is about 8 min and best five mile time is in
the 50s. Age 62. Non smoker. Never had a heart attack or
anything like that. Fifteen years ago I was a half decent
runner for my age.
"Rivermist" <nemo@nomail.com> wrote in message news:<0Nadnd_BZ4-7dO7dRVn-
jA@comcast.com>...
> how did it affect you?
>
> "flyrcalot" <bm459@scn.org> wrote in message
> news:d47da581.0404061607.590ec030@posting.google.com...
> > I am personally starting my third year of statin
> > recovery. I know now I will never really fully recover.
> > But what I wonder is if I really am unusual or if
> > runners often have problems with the statin class of
> > drugs. So, if there is anyone on the newsgroup that has
> > taken one of these drugs for five years or more I would
> > be interested in hearing what, if any, impact this may
> > have had on your ability to run.
> >
> > TIA
I'm extremely interested in this thread as my doc has been
pushing me to take simvastatin for the last two or three
years but so far I have resisted. I'm 57 and in fairly good
health other than my chol. numbers aren't good, total 248
and the hdl is like 38. I seem to recall a physician or two
being on this n.g. It would be nice to hear some comments
from them.
It seems to me I heard somewhere that flyrcalot wrote in article
<d47da581.0404061607.590ec030@posting.google.com>:
>I am personally starting my third year of statin
>recovery. I know now I will never really fully recover.
>But what I wonder is if I really am unusual or if runners
>often have problems with the statin class of drugs. So,
>if there is anyone on the newsgroup that has taken one of
>these drugs for five years or more I would be interested
>in hearing what, if any, impact this may have had on your
>ability to run.
I've been on statins for nearly six years, first
Pravachol and mostly Lipitor, currently 80mg. I can't
detect any side effects from it, maybe because age is a
bigger factor in my running than medication. OTOH,
atenolol *does* affect my running, so I take it only
after I've finished my runs (12.5mg). Mild arthritis
actually looks like it will eventually hamper my running
more than the drugs have so far.
--
Don donkirk@covad.net
> What are the issues with these drugs regarding running?
> What is statin recovery?
If you read the fine print in the statin advs, the most
common side-effect is muscle weakness, about 5% of users. My
father stopped walking because of leg muscle weakness. Other
side-effects are mentioned too. Statins affect all organs,
though the main one is to decrease cholestorol production in
the liver. The liver is also a "sugar battery", storing
about 1/3 of the bodies available blood sugar, as anyone who
hits the wall while running will want to know. Blodd sugar
disruptions are listed as a minor side-effect.
Don Kirkman wrote:
> I've been on statins for nearly six years, first
> Pravachol and mostly Lipitor, currently 80mg. I can't
> detect any side effects from it, maybe because age is a
> bigger factor in my running than medication. OTOH,
> atenolol *does* affect my running, so I take it only
> after I've finished my runs (12.5mg). Mild arthritis
> actually looks like it will eventually hamper my running
> more than the drugs have so far.
What effects have you seen from atenolol? I'm currently on
atenolol, zocor, aspirin & niacin, having had a mild heart
attack ~2 years ago. I haven't noticed any adverse side
effects myself.
It seems to me I heard somewhere that A. W. Dunstan wrote in article
<CvGdc.16$XX2.0@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com>:
>Don Kirkman wrote:
>> I've been on statins for nearly six years, first
>> Pravachol and mostly Lipitor, currently 80mg. I can't
>> detect any side effects from it, maybe because age is a
>> bigger factor in my running than medication. OTOH,
>> atenolol *does* affect my running, so I take it only
>> after I've finished my runs (12.5mg). Mild arthritis
>> actually looks like it will eventually hamper my running
>> more than the drugs have so far.
>What effects have you seen from atenolol? I'm currently on
>atenolol, zocor, aspirin & niacin, having had a mild heart
>attack ~2 years ago. I haven't noticed any adverse side
>effects myself.
When I was on 25mg and taking it before my runs I found I
got out of breath while my heart rate was well below what I
normally registered at the same pace, and I couldn't push it
up to the normal level. Several times I dropped out before
finishing my planned distances (only about three or four
miles at that time in my recovery from a *very* mild heart
attack). Even on the reduced dose of 12.5mg I had the same
effect though not as badly. Taking the dose after a run I
was able to run as planned (and have been building mileage
recently); on non-running days I take the atenolol with my
other meds at breakfast, and can handle a walking round of
golf or other activity with no effects.
Several times I had seen the suggestion to delay atenolol
till after runs in this group before I tried it. Google
probably has more information if you're interested.
--
Don donkirk@covad.net
Don Kirkman <spambuster@covad.net> wrote in message news:<fi3j70lq5bn41rat2qsb1edjg4qbbmu0dp@4ax.com>...
>> When I was on 25mg and taking it before my runs I found I
>> got out of
> breath while my heart rate was well below what I normally
> registered at the same pace, and I couldn't push it up to
> the normal level. Several times I dropped out before
> finishing my planned distances (only about three or four
> miles at that time in my recovery from a *very* mild heart
> attack). Even on the reduced dose of 12.5mg I had the same
> effect though not as badly. Taking the dose after a run I
> was able to run as planned (and have been building mileage
> recently); on non-running days I take the atenolol with my
> other meds at breakfast, and can handle a walking round of
> golf or other activity with no effects.
C'mon you pussy, take a handfull of those pills and go on a
fast 25 miler.
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