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President looks to get U.S. running

By Lawrence L. Knutson Associated Press

WASHINGTON - He didn't finish first, second or even in the
top 20, but President Bush tried to lead by example Saturday
in a three-mile run with hundreds of White House workers.

His goal was to convince Americans to take to heart his
message that regular exercise is essential to the good
health of both the person and the nation.

Bush came in near the top of the 400-runner field,
finishing 26th.

The 55-year-old president, running in blue shorts and a
white T-shirt with "Healthier U.S. Government" on his back
and a No. 1 tag on his chest, was clocked at 20 minutes, 27
seconds. The White House said, however, that the official
time was 20:29, as recorded by a chip in Bush's running
shoe. The first two laps were well under a 7-minute-mile
pace at 6:30 and 6:49. The 20:29 was better than Bush's
usual 20:30 for three miles.

"It felt great. It was less than 20:30," Bush said at the
finish line at the Army's Fort McNair in Southwest
Washington.

C.G.
  
If he had come in 2nd, do ya think he'd have taken the
winner's medal?
:-)

--
Colm

"Phil" <runners4bush2004@netzero.com> wrote in message
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: WASHINGTON - He didn't finish first, second or even in the
: top 20, but President Bush tried to lead by example
: Saturday in a three-mile run with hundreds of White House
: workers.

Rick++
  
Looks like hes gotten through his knee problems. Probably
puts him in the top couple percent of ALL late-50s men with
a time like that.

Swstudio
  
"rick++" <rick303@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> Looks like hes gotten through his knee problems. Probably
> puts him in the top couple percent of ALL late-50s men
> with a time like that.

I'd be suprised if it did, but I believe you.

I have two friends aged 53 and 54 (I know, a little young
for that AG yet, but still) who regularly run 17:10 - 17:20
for 5k, which of course is longer than 3 miles, which the
president ran.

Another friend is 57 and broke 20 last year with a 19:47,
again for a full 3.1 miles... and he barely got an award; I
think 3rd in AG.

Maybe the compeition for the over-50 population is extra
tough around here, lol. :)

cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON) www.allfalldown.org "The most
insecure people are the ones you see, putting other people
down constantly."

Swstudio
  
"SwStudio" <shhhh_secrets@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ovUcc.11738
> "rick++" <rick303@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > Looks like hes gotten through his knee problems.
> > Probably puts him in the top couple percent of ALL late-
> > 50s men with a time like that.
>
>
> I'd be suprised if it did, but I believe you.
>
> I have two friends aged 53 and 54 (I know, a little young
> for that AG yet, but still) who regularly run 17:10 -
> 17:20 for 5k, which of course is longer than 3 miles,
> which the president ran.
>
> Another friend is 57 and broke 20 last year with a 19:47,
> again for a full 3.1 miles... and he barely got an award;
> I think 3rd in AG.
>
> Maybe the compeition for the over-50 population is extra
> tough around here, lol. :)

I meant to also add that if you extrapolate his time to a
full 5k, he would have ran about 21:13 - 21:15.

cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON) www.allfalldown.org "The most
insecure people are the ones you see, putting other people
down constantly."

Donovan Rebbech
  
In article <f7422d8e.0404070554.6bd105c@posting.google.com>, rick++ wrote:
> Looks like hes gotten through his knee problems. Probably
> puts him in the top couple percent of ALL late-50s men
> with a time like that.

It's about a 69% WAVA if you extrapolate it to a 5k time. A
respectable time for sure, but he'd still have a hard time
winning age group trophies around here.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

Grandepatzer
  
runners4bush2004@netzero.com (Phil) wrote in message news:<8bd8dc13.0404062038.888a425@posting.google.com>...
> President looks to get U.S. running

Yeah, well, with all those secret service agents around him
stopping the progress of other runners, of course he's
going to do well. Load him with all the gear a marine must
carry, schedule a race through downtown Bagdad, and see how
far he makes it.

Not Him
  
runners4bush2004@netzero.com (Phil) wrote in message news:<8bd8dc13.0404062038.888a425@posting.google.com>...

>
>> President looks to get U.S. running

Oh don't worry Larry 'ol buddy, we're going to be doing
plenty of running due to him, running to the polls to UN-
ELECT that dickless wonder. (And I didn't mean to say he was
elected at all to begin with, because we all know over 80%
of america voted for someone else)

Donovan Rebbech
  
In article <20040407125114.09718.00000672@mb-m24.aol.com>, Lyndon wrote:
> Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
>>In article
>><f7422d8e.0404070554.6bd105c@posting.google.com>,
>>rick++ wrote:
>>> Looks like hes gotten through his knee problems.
>>> Probably puts him in the top couple percent of ALL late-
>>> 50s men with a time like that.
>>
>>It's about a 69% WAVA if you extrapolate it to a 5k time.
>>A respectable time for sure, but he'd still have a hard
>>time winning age group trophies around here.
>>
> The WAVA calculator gives 73% for a 58-year-old male
> running a 5K in 21:15. So his running comes off about like
> his policies: mediocre. But I do think

I used his age (55) as given in the article -- but you're
right that he's not
55. Looking into it, the article was written in June 02.
He would have been 55 at the time of writing (his DOB
is Jul 46)

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

Dirk
  
rick303@hotmail.com (rick++) wrote in message news:<f7422d8e.0404070554.6bd105c@posting.google.com>...
> Looks like hes gotten through his knee problems.

I'm afraid not. The story is nearly two years old, here's a
link to this story with a 6/2002 dateline:

http://www.seacoastonline.com/2002news/06232002/world-
/10773.htm

Curt
  
> Oh don't worry Larry 'ol buddy, we're going to be doing
> plenty of running due to him, running to the polls to UN-
> ELECT that dickless wonder. (And I didn't mean to say he
> was elected at all to begin with, because we all know over
> 80% of america voted for someone else)

I wish that was true, but I suspect Bush has all the NASCAR
fans in the palm of his hand and with the huge military vote
he will be close enough to buy the election, like he did
last time. The Bush family is very wealthy and connected. I
really don't think we will be able to vote him out unless it
is a landslide victory, so they can dump votes like they did
last time. I don't think will happen. There are lots of
NASCAR fans.

We sure are getting deeper and deeper in debt. Everything GW
touches seems to go bankrupt including our country.

What amazes me about Bush is in such a short time he made us
the most unliked country in the world. We were ok when we
invaded Afghanistan and no one said a word, but as soon as
we told the UN to stick it up theirs and pretty much told
everyone we wanted Iraq's oil and will control it, the world
didn't care for that. Oh well, at least we will have control
of the oil and will put someone in power over there that
will deal with us. I guess who cares that a few Marines got
killed. It was for the greater good. OIL so we can drive our
Expeditions and Excursions.

Curt

Eno
  
curt wrote:

>>Oh don't worry Larry 'ol buddy, we're going to be doing
>>plenty of running due to him, running to the polls to UN-
>>ELECT that dickless wonder. (And I didn't mean to say he
>>was elected at all to begin with, because we all know over
>>80% of america voted for someone else)
>
>
> I wish that was true, but I suspect Bush has all the
> NASCAR fans in the palm of his hand and with the huge
> military vote he will be close enough to buy the election,
> like he did last time.

Yeah, those dumb NASCAR fans. The ones even Dean tried to
cojole with his pickup-truck-confederate-flag nugget.

> The Bush family is very wealthy and connected.

Really? As connected as the Heinz-Kerry family?

> I really don't think we will be able to vote him out
> unless it is a landslide victory, so they can dump votes
> like they did last time. I don't think will happen. There
> are lots of NASCAR fans.

Well, what could be more landslide than "80% of america"?

Look, here's the bottom line: Kerry best drop his surf
board and start running--as in "running for office"--if
he's to have a chance. There, I did it, I brought this back
on-topic ;).

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Rick++
  
> > Looks like hes gotten through his knee problems.
> > Probably puts him in the top couple percent of ALL late-
> > 50s men with a time like that.
>
>
> I'd be suprised if it did, but I believe you.
>
> I have two friends aged 53 and 54 (I know, a little young
> for that AG yet, but still) who regularly run 17:10 -
> 17:20 for 5k, which of course is longer than 3 miles,
> which the president ran.

The capitalized ALL means the entire population in their
50s. If you choose 100 people over 50 randomly out of the
phone book, I suspect GWB would beat between 97 to 99 of
them in a run. 95% of them cannot run a mile, period, much
less in 6 minutes. 60 of them would have BMIs over 25.

Swstudio
  
"rick++" <rick303@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > Looks like hes gotten through his knee problems.
> > > Probably puts him in the top couple percent of ALL late-
> > > 50s men with a time like that.
> >
> >
> > I'd be suprised if it did, but I believe you.
> >
> > I have two friends aged 53 and 54 (I know, a little
> > young for that AG yet, but still) who regularly run
> > 17:10 - 17:20 for 5k, which of course is longer than 3
> > miles, which the president ran.
>
> The capitalized ALL means the entire population in their
> 50s. If you choose 100 people over 50 randomly out of the
> phone book, I suspect GWB would beat between 97 to 99 of
> them in a run. 95% of them cannot run a mile, period, much
> less in 6 minutes. 60 of them would have BMIs over 25.

Oh, now I understand, but this makes your point meaningless.
Before I started running, any casual jogger could outrun me
too, over 5k. Even very unhealthy ones.

cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON) www.allfalldown.org "The most
insecure people are the ones you see, putting other people
down constantly."

Parker Race
  
"Phil" <runners4bush2004@netzero.com> wrote in message
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> Come support President Bush
>

No, thanks. I'd rather support all those who can no longer
walk or run and those who longer have a mother or father or
their sons and daughters as a result of his "running" the
country. And I'll also support them through helping to make
him an ex-president.

<Fluff snipped

Curt
  
> > The Bush family is very wealthy and connected.
>
> Really? As connected as the Heinz-Kerry family?

The Bush family could buy and sell the little Heinz-Kerry
family many times over. I am not saying Kerry's family is
not wealthy, but the Bush's are billionaires and are big
into oil. Being an oil-man is not what this country needs to
be progressive. Once again the Japanese will be leading the
way in technology just like they did in the 70's. You may be
too young to remember that however.

> > I really don't think we will be able to vote him out
> > unless it is a landslide victory, so they can dump votes
> > like they did last time.
I
> > don't think will happen. There are lots of NASCAR fans.
>
> Well, what could be more landslide than "80% of america"?

80%?? What do you mean?

> Look, here's the bottom line: Kerry best drop his surf
> board and start running--as in "running for office"--if
> he's to have a chance. There, I did it, I brought this
> back on-topic ;).

This whole thing is off topic. I just needed to vent,
because I hate our current president. I have never hated a
president like this in my life. I guess I am for clean air
and world peace. We all know we will no make any strides
with the current president. He could give a crap about any
of that. As long as he and Cheney make big bucks on the Iraq
deal is all that matters to him. He daddy tried to make the
big bucks over there and failed, now they are trying again
at the cost of our own economy. The Bush's are once again
going to parachute out in platinum.

Curt

Tenkbabe
  
> And I didn't mean to say he was elected at all to begin
> with, because we all know over 80% of america voted for
> someone else

That also does not mean that 80% of the USA voted for Gore.
Are you familiar with the concept of "electoral college?"

tkb

Swstudio
  
"Parker Race" <prman@wazoo.int> wrote in message
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>
> "Phil" <runners4bush2004@netzero.com> wrote in message
> news:8bd8dc13.0404062038.888a425@posting.google.com...
> > Come support President Bush
> >
>
> No, thanks. I'd rather support all those who can no longer
> walk or run and those who longer have a mother or father
> or their sons and daughters as a result of his "running"
> the country. And I'll also support them through helping to
> make him an ex-president.

Well said. I'm not a fan of his methods and strategies
either, to put it mildly.

cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON) www.allfalldown.org "The most
insecure people are the ones you see, putting other people
down constantly."

Not Him
  
eNo <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<fKXcc.16$9f7.11@dfw-service2.ext.ray.com>...
> curt wrote:
>
> > > The Bush family is very wealthy and
> > connected.
>
> Really? As connected as the Heinz-Kerry family?
>

The Bush family is FAR more connected politically.

> > Well, what could be more landslide than "80% of
> > america"?
>

It just goes to show us, that "we the people" is a sham, and
our voices mean absolutely nothing.

> Look, here's the bottom line: Kerry best drop his surf
> board and start running--as in "running for office"--if
> he's to have a chance. There, I did it, I brought this
> back on-topic ;).

No hurry, if he does he'll risk burning out the american
public before the election. Notice how latent his run at the
nimination was? Everyone was screaming "the dems better put
a candidate out there soon...", and then he suddenly
appeared? Timing is everything.

Mark Linenberg
  
On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 21:22:59 GMT, "curt" <nospam@verizon.net> wrote:

>> > The Bush family is very wealthy and connected.
>>
>> Really? As connected as the Heinz-Kerry family?
>
>The Bush family could buy and sell the little Heinz-Kerry
>family many times over. I am not saying Kerry's family is
>not wealthy, but the Bush's are billionaires and are big
>into oil. Being an oil-man is not what this country needs
>to be progressive. Once again the Japanese will be leading
>the way in technology just like they did in the 70's. You
>may be too young to remember that however.
>

G.W. Bush is worth 10-25 million
http://www.bop2004.org/bop2004/candidate.aspx?cid=1

not even remotely close to Kerry's family net worth

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