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Gwyn Oakley
  
For some time now I have been plagued by a once per
revolution clicking noise whist pedalling under load. I had
tried several ideas to solve the problem, remove and replace
cranks, tighten chainring bolts, tighten pedals, check
bottom bracket, still the noise.

Then I have a puncture in my rear wheel - first for ages.
Fix puncture, renew tyre since the old one was crumbling
around the wire bead, replace and hey presto, no more click.

Does anyone hav any ideas what the cause of the noise might
have been. My best guess is that the wheel was moving a tiny
amount in the [vertical] dropouts

Cheers Gwyn

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Gwyn

Pete Biggs
  
Gwyn Oakley wrote:
> For some time now I have been plagued by a once per
> revolution

Wheel or crank revolution?

> clicking noise whist pedalling under load. I had tried
> several ideas to solve the problem, remove and replace
> cranks, tighten chainring bolts, tighten pedals, check
> bottom bracket, still the noise.

Couldn't be any of that if it was once per wheel rev, and
won't be wheel if it's in time with crank rev.

> Then I have a puncture in my rear wheel - first for
> ages. Fix puncture, renew tyre since the old one was
> crumbling around the wire bead, replace and hey presto,
> no more click.
>
> Does anyone hav any ideas what the cause of the noise
> might have been. My best guess is that the wheel was
> moving a tiny amount in the [vertical] dropouts

I doubt it was that, should never be enough movement there
to cause noise. Just disturbing the wheel when removing and
refitting might have done the trick. Perhaps something has
settled or wheel is aligned very slightly differently from
how it was before (this can happen even with vertical
dropouts), or perhaps quick release was done up
tighter/looser, which will affect bearings. Or of course, it
could be something entirely differerent. Tyre or rim rubbing
something?

There's only one thing more difficult than trying to track
down a mysterious noise on your bike: that's diagnosing
someone else's noise via the internet! :-)

....As it happens, I've got an irregular clicking that I
think is coming from my rear hub on my tourer.... I'll be
asking for help if it doesn't go away soon!

~PB

Simon D
  
"Pete Biggs" <pclemantine{remove_fruit}@biggs.tc> wrote in message
news:c5uh2j$5qd70$1@ID-144931.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Gwyn Oakley wrote:
> > For some time now I have been plagued by a once per
> > revolution
>
> Wheel or crank revolution?
>
> > clicking noise whist pedalling under load. I had tried
> > several ideas to solve the problem, remove and replace
> > cranks, tighten chainring bolts, tighten pedals, check
> > bottom bracket, still the noise.
>
> Couldn't be any of that if it was once per wheel rev, and
> won't be wheel if it's in time with crank rev.
>
> > Then I have a puncture in my rear wheel - first for
> > ages. Fix puncture, renew tyre since the old one was
> > crumbling around the wire bead, replace and hey presto,
> > no more click.
> >
> > Does anyone hav any ideas what the cause of the noise
> > might have been. My best guess is that the wheel was
> > moving a tiny amount in the [vertical] dropouts
>
> I doubt it was that, should never be enough movement there
> to cause noise. Just disturbing the wheel when removing
> and refitting might have done the trick. Perhaps something
> has settled or wheel is aligned very slightly differently
> from how it was before (this can happen even with vertical
> dropouts), or perhaps quick release was done up
> tighter/looser, which will affect bearings. Or of course,
> it could be something entirely differerent. Tyre or rim
> rubbing something?
>
> There's only one thing more difficult than trying to track
> down a mysterious noise on your bike: that's diagnosing
> someone else's noise via the internet! :-)
>
> ....As it happens, I've got an irregular clicking that I
> think is coming from my rear hub on my tourer.... I'll be
> asking for help if it doesn't go away soon!
>
> ~PB
>
>
Actually, I did once have to try to fix a click on a bike
which proved to be the QR skewer on the rear wheel moving
minutely in the dropouts. I only worked out what it was when
I found that the problem didn't occur with a different wheel
fitted, didn't occur with the offending wheel in another
frame, and didn't occur with the cassette from the offending
wheel fitted to another wheel!!

It took me a while to get through all those options, I can
tell you...Anyway, I eventually tried spraying a little WD40
over the skewer / dropout interface - problem gone. This
despite the fact that the wheel had been in and out (several
times...) without the noise going away.

It was a customer's bike, but I think (from memory) that it
was a steel frame with Mavic (alloy nut) skewers. Incredibly
unusual, but I would say that your diagnosis could be right.
As Pete says, not easy to diagnose over the 'Net! If it
starts again, undo the skewer and spray a little lube over
the QR nut - not too much, keep it local - and see if that
makes the difference.

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::dom::
  
I had a 1 rev (crank) click that drove me NUTZ!

A friend sugested spraying WD40 on my clipless pedals.

No more clicks. Don't know why... don't care... NO MORE CLICKS!

James Hodson
  
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 09:25:54 GMT, Dominic Sansom
<usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote:

>I had a 1 rev (crank) click that drove me NUTZ!
>
>A friend sugested spraying WD40 on my clipless pedals.
>
>No more clicks. Don't know why... don't care... NO
>MORE CLICKS!

Hi Dominic

Similar sound and similar remedy for me. Being a modern chap
I used GT85 instead of GT40 :-)

Another similar clicking problem on a different bike was
solved by tightening up both my seat pillar and my bar ends.

James

Gwyn Oakley
  
In message <c61ig3$1gp$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>
"Simon D" <NOSPAM@NOSPAMmsn.com> wrote:

>
> "Pete Biggs" <pclemantine{remove_fruit}@biggs.tc> wrote
> in message news:c5uh2j$5qd70$1@ID-144931.news.uni-
> berlin.de...
> > Gwyn Oakley wrote:
> > > For some time now I have been plagued by a once per
> > > revolution
> >
> > Wheel or crank revolution?

Sorry crank revolution

> >
> > > clicking noise whist pedalling under load. I had
> > > tried several ideas to solve the problem, remove and
> > > replace cranks, tighten chainring bolts, tighten
> > > pedals, check bottom bracket, still the noise.
> >
> > Couldn't be any of that if it was once per wheel rev,
> > and won't be wheel if it's in time with crank rev.
> >
> > > Then I have a puncture in my rear wheel - first for
> > > ages. Fix puncture, renew tyre since the old one was
> > > crumbling around the wire bead, replace and hey
> > > presto, no more click.
> > >
> > > Does anyone hav any ideas what the cause of the noise
> > > might have been. My best guess is that the wheel was
> > > moving a tiny amount in the [vertical] dropouts
> >
> > I doubt it was that, should never be enough movement
> > there to cause noise. Just disturbing the wheel when
> > removing and refitting might have done the trick.
> > Perhaps something has settled or wheel is aligned very
> > slightly differently from how it was before (this can
> > happen even with vertical dropouts), or perhaps quick
> > release was done up tighter/looser, which will affect
> > bearings. Or of course, it could be something entirely
> > differerent. Tyre or rim rubbing something?
> >
> > There's only one thing more difficult than trying to
> > track down a mysterious noise on your bike: that's
> > diagnosing someone else's noise via the internet! :-)
> >
> > ....As it happens, I've got an irregular clicking that
> > I think is coming from my rear hub on my tourer....
> > I'll be asking for help if it doesn't go away soon!
> >
> > ~PB
> >
> >
> Actually, I did once have to try to fix a click on a bike
> which proved to be the QR skewer on the rear wheel moving
> minutely in the dropouts. I only worked out what it was
> when I found that the problem didn't occur with a
> different wheel fitted, didn't occur with the offending
> wheel in another frame, and didn't occur with the
> cassette from the offending wheel fitted to another
> wheel!!
>
> It took me a while to get through all those options, I
> can tell you...Anyway, I eventually tried spraying a
> little WD40 over the skewer / dropout interface - problem
> gone. This despite the fact that the wheel had been in
> and out (several times...) without the noise going away.
>
> It was a customer's bike, but I think (from memory) that
> it was a steel frame with Mavic (alloy nut) skewers.
> Incredibly unusual, but I would say that your diagnosis
> could be right.

Now there is a coincidence - this wheel was fitted with
Mavic Hub and skewer.

> As Pete says, not easy to diagnose over the 'Net! If it
> starts again, undo the skewer and spray a little lube over
> the QR nut - not too much, keep it local - and see if that
> makes the difference.
>
Thanks for the input guys

Gwyn

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Simon D
  
"Gwyn Oakley" <gwo@aber.ac.uk.invalid> wrote in message
news:3000c0a24c.Gwyn@gwo.aber.ac.uk...
> In message <c61ig3$1gp$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>

> Now there is a coincidence - this wheel was fitted with
> Mavic Hub and skewer.

..Or probably not a coincidence, I'd say! :-)

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Terry D
  
>>>For some time now I have been plagued by a once per
>>>revolution clicking noise whist pedalling under load. I
>>>had tried several ideas to solve the problem, remove and
>>>replace cranks, tighten chainring bolts, tighten pedals,
>>>check bottom bracket, still the noise.
>>

>>>Then I have a puncture in my rear wheel - first for
>>>ages. Fix puncture, renew tyre since the old one was
>>>crumbling around the wire bead, replace and hey presto,
>>>no more click.
>>>
>>>Does anyone hav any ideas what the cause of the noise
>>>might have been. My best guess is that the wheel was
>>>moving a tiny amount in the [vertical] dropouts
>>

A once per revolution clicking noise on my bike was
eventually traced to spokes which had worn grooves at the
crossing point and clicked when the spokes were forced out
of their normal positions. The problem was worse when the
spokes were dirty. Good excuse for cleaning the bike instead
of mowing the lawn.

Terry D.

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