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Recumbent wins BAF
Great news everyone! A recumbent has won the 167 mile Bike Across Florida
ride this past weekend. 47 year old John Schlitter rote the 167 mile course
in 6:49 setting a course record and outrunning mayn cat 1 and 2 riders that
were competing in the ride. John is one of the owners of Bacchetta Bikes and
was riding a Bacchetta Aero, a titanium dual 650 recumbent. Here is the
story.
http://www.chronicleonline.com/articles/2004/04/19/news/news01.txt
"Ted" <matches@starband.net> writes:
> Great news everyone! A recumbent has won the 167 mile Bike
> Across Florida ride this past weekend. 47 year old John
> Schlitter rote the 167 mile course in 6:49 setting a
> course record and outrunning mayn cat 1 and 2 riders that
> were competing in the ride. John is one of the owners of
> Bacchetta Bikes and was riding a Bacchetta Aero, a
> titanium dual 650 recumbent. Here is the story. http://ww- (http://ww-/)
> w.chronicleonline.com/articles/2004/04/19/news/news01.txt
>
>
How many other monstrosities were there in the race?
--
le Vent a Dos Davey Crockett Six-Day site:
http://members.rogers.com/sixday/sixday.html
"Ted" <matches@starband.net> wrote in message
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> Great news everyone! A recumbent has won the 167 mile Bike
> Across Florida ride this past weekend. 47 year old John
> Schlitter rote the 167 mile
course
> in 6:49 setting a course record and outrunning mayn cat 1
> and 2 riders
that
> were competing in the ride. John is one of the owners of
> Bacchetta Bikes
and
> was riding a Bacchetta Aero, a titanium dual 650
> recumbent. Here is the story. http://www.chronicleonline.- (http://www.chronicleonline.-/)
> com/articles/2004/04/19/news/news01.txt
>
Since you obviously didn't see the other thread on this
subject that's been going, I'll re-post my reply.
In the article, the winner says he wanted to prove the
relative efficiency of his recumbent vs. conventional bikes.
Of course, he picks the flattest stretch of road on the
planet. Lets see how its efficiency stands up at, say, the
Assault on Mt. Mitchell or the Six Gap Century or some event
like that. He didn't prove anything we didn't know.
Recumbents can go fast on the flat. Duh.
Bob C.
several, dont know for sure but it only took one to win
"Davey Crockett" <Davey_Crockett@rogers.com> wrote in
message news:87vfjtzgca.fsf@cpe000423176ea9-
cm0f2069983361.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com...
> "Ted" <matches@starband.net> writes:
>
> > Great news everyone! A recumbent has won the 167 mile
> > Bike Across
Florida
> > ride this past weekend. 47 year old John Schlitter rote
> > the 167 mile
course
> > in 6:49 setting a course record and outrunning mayn cat
> > 1 and 2 riders
that
> > were competing in the ride. John is one of the owners of
> > Bacchetta Bikes
and
> > was riding a Bacchetta Aero, a titanium dual 650
> > recumbent. Here is the story. http://www.chronicleonlin- (http://www.chronicleonlin-/)
> > e.com/articles/2004/04/19/news/news01.txt
> >
> >
> How many other monstrosities were there in the race?
> --
> le Vent a Dos Davey Crockett Six-Day site:
> http://members.rogers.com/sixday/sixday.html
Ted wrote:
> Great news everyone! A recumbent has won the 167 mile Bike
> Across Florida ride this past weekend. 47 year old John
> Schlitter rote the 167 mile course in 6:49 setting a
> course record and outrunning mayn cat 1 and 2 riders that
> were competing in the ride. John is one of the owners of
> Bacchetta Bikes and was riding a Bacchetta Aero, a
> titanium dual 650 recumbent. Here is the story. http://ww- (http://ww-/)
> w.chronicleonline.com/articles/2004/04/19/news/news01.txt
The article also said:
"Schlitter finished less than a second ahead of second-place
finisher Dave Dimey, 53, of Ontario, Canada."
and
"The top female finisher [...] finished nine minutes behind
Schlitter. [...] Making her top women's finish even more
remarkable is that she's only been riding bikes for about
10 months."
bill bachelors group would have won if they went down the
same course. its not as flat as you think out in the middle
of the state either.....
"Ted" <matches@starband.net> wrote in message
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> Great news everyone! A recumbent has won the 167 mile Bike
> Across Florida ride this past weekend. 47 year old John
> Schlitter rote the 167 mile
course
> in 6:49 setting a course record and outrunning mayn cat 1
> and 2 riders
that
> were competing in the ride. John is one of the owners of
> Bacchetta Bikes
and
> was riding a Bacchetta Aero, a titanium dual 650
> recumbent. Here is the story. http://www.chronicleonline.- (http://www.chronicleonline.-/)
> com/articles/2004/04/19/news/news01.txt
Woulda, shoulda, coulda
Based on the statement made by the second place
finisher,(the recumbent could not climb or sprint good) he
should have out sprinted him at the finish. Maybe the
recumbent sprinted better than he stated "JTN"
<jtn@usps.com> wrote in message
news:108d0mtarr0jh0f@corp.supernews.com...
> bill bachelors group would have won if they went down the
> same course. its not as flat as you think out in the
> middle of the state either.....
>
>
> "Ted" <matches@starband.net> wrote in message
> news:Efthc.2100$FB1.407@fe25.usenetserver.com...
> > Great news everyone! A recumbent has won the 167 mile
> > Bike Across
Florida
> > ride this past weekend. 47 year old John Schlitter rote
> > the 167 mile
> course
> > in 6:49 setting a course record and outrunning mayn cat
> > 1 and 2 riders
> that
> > were competing in the ride. John is one of the owners of
> > Bacchetta Bikes
> and
> > was riding a Bacchetta Aero, a titanium dual 650
> > recumbent. Here is the story. http://www.chronicleonlin- (http://www.chronicleonlin-/)
> > e.com/articles/2004/04/19/news/news01.txt
> >
>
Recumbants can get up to and hold a high speed that makes it
difficult to come around. There is also very little draft
effect to use in passing. You're comparing Apples and
Oranges. Let us know when a recumbant sets the absolute
cycling record going up Mt. Washington or Mt. Evans.
"Ted" <matches@starband.net> wrote in message
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> Woulda, shoulda, coulda
>
> Based on the statement made by the second place
> finisher,(the recumbent could not climb or sprint good) he
> should have out sprinted him at the finish. Maybe the
> recumbent sprinted better than he stated "JTN"
> <jtn@usps.com> wrote in message
> news:108d0mtarr0jh0f@corp.supernews.com...
> > bill bachelors group would have won if they went down
> > the same course.
its
> > not as flat as you think out in the middle of the state
> > either.....
> >
> >
> > "Ted" <matches@starband.net> wrote in message
> > news:Efthc.2100$FB1.407@fe25.usenetserver.com...
> > > Great news everyone! A recumbent has won the 167 mile
> > > Bike Across
> Florida
> > > ride this past weekend. 47 year old John Schlitter
> > > rote the 167 mile
> > course
> > > in 6:49 setting a course record and outrunning mayn
> > > cat 1 and 2 riders
> > that
> > > were competing in the ride. John is one of the owners
> > > of Bacchetta
Bikes
> > and
> > > was riding a Bacchetta Aero, a titanium dual 650
> > > recumbent. Here is
the
> > > story. http://www.chronicleonline.com/articles/2004/0-
> > > 4/19/news/news01.txt
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Oooh lala , Mt. washington - a big 4000 feet high
"Prot" <Prot@K-PAX.org> wrote in message news:r2yhc.5593$gH-
6.4195@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Recumbants can get up to and hold a high speed that makes
> it difficult to come around. There is also very little
> draft effect to use in passing. You're comparing Apples
> and Oranges. Let us know when a recumbant sets
the
> absolute cycling record going up Mt. Washington or
> Mt. Evans.
psycholist <technico@wctel.net> wrote:
> In the article, the winner says he wanted to prove the
> relative efficiency of his recumbent vs. conventional
> bikes. Of course, he picks the flattest stretch of road on
> the planet. Lets see how its efficiency stands up at, say,
> the Assault on Mt. Mitchell or the Six Gap Century or some
> event like that. He didn't prove anything we didn't know.
> Recumbents can go fast on the flat. Duh.
This experiment has been run. Long time RBR hacks remember
Eric House's 'bent experience.
Eric was an ultra-marathoner and used to hold the course
record for the Furnace Creek 508. If I remember it correctly
he bought a 'bent after a crash in which he broke his
collarbone, in order to not disrupt his training.
He then rode the recumbent in the Furnace Creek race, a
race in which at the time he held the upright record at 29
hours. On the 'bent he established a course record that
stood until last year at 35 hours. The race has over 35000
ft of climbing. The difference in his times was almost
exactly 6 hours.
Bob Schwartz cvcc@execpc.com
Bob Schwartz wrote:
>
> Eric was an ultra-marathoner and used to hold the course
> record for the Furnace Creek 508. If I remember it
> correctly he bought a 'bent after a crash in which he
> broke his collarbone, in order to not disrupt his
> training.
Thumb. Borrowed.
It's a bit over 6,000 feet, IIRC although the elevation gain isn't that
amount. I'd love to know if there's a recumbent record for the climb.
"James Calivar" <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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> Oooh lala , Mt. washington - a big 4000 feet high
>
> "Prot" <Prot@K-PAX.org> wrote in message news:r2yhc.5593$-
> gH6.4195@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > Recumbants can get up to and hold a high speed that
> > makes it difficult
to
> > come around. There is also very little draft effect to
> > use in passing. You're comparing Apples and Oranges. Let
> > us know when a recumbant sets
> the
> > absolute cycling record going up Mt. Washington or Mt.
> > Evans.
>
I "woulda" beat him. I probably could have even bunny hopped
him at the line if he didn't get out of my way. maybe even
tapped his helmet with my rear whell on the way over to give
him a black scratch souvenir.
"Ted" <matches@starband.net> wrote in message
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> Woulda, shoulda, coulda
>
> Based on the statement made by the second place
> finisher,(the recumbent could not climb or sprint good) he
> should have out sprinted him at the finish. Maybe the
> recumbent sprinted better than he stated "JTN"
> <jtn@usps.com> wrote in message
> news:108d0mtarr0jh0f@corp.supernews.com...
> > bill bachelors group would have won if they went down
> > the same course.
its
> > not as flat as you think out in the middle of the state
> > either.....
> >
> >
> > "Ted" <matches@starband.net> wrote in message
> > news:Efthc.2100$FB1.407@fe25.usenetserver.com...
> > > Great news everyone! A recumbent has won the 167 mile
> > > Bike Across
> Florida
> > > ride this past weekend. 47 year old John Schlitter
> > > rote the 167 mile
> > course
> > > in 6:49 setting a course record and outrunning mayn
> > > cat 1 and 2 riders
> > that
> > > were competing in the ride. John is one of the owners
> > > of Bacchetta
Bikes
> > and
> > > was riding a Bacchetta Aero, a titanium dual 650
> > > recumbent. Here is
the
> > > story. http://www.chronicleonline.com/articles/2004/0-
> > > 4/19/news/news01.txt
> > >
> > >
> >
>
"JTN" <jtn@usps.com> wrote in message
news:108dj6mt25dr69b@corp.supernews.com...
> I "woulda" beat him. I probably could have even bunny
> hopped him at the
line
> if he didn't get out of my way. maybe even tapped his
> helmet with my rear whell on the way over to give him a
> black scratch souvenir.
>
>
> "Ted" <matches@starband.net> wrote in message
> news:7Uwhc.2125$FB1.1174@fe25.usenetserver.com...
> > Woulda, shoulda, coulda
> >
> > Based on the statement made by the second place
> > finisher,(the recumbent could not climb or sprint good)
> > he should have out sprinted him at the finish. Maybe the
> > recumbent sprinted better than he stated "JTN"
> > <jtn@usps.com> wrote in message
> > news:108d0mtarr0jh0f@corp.supernews.com...
> > > bill bachelors group would have won if they went down
> > > the same course.
> its
> > > not as flat as you think out in the middle of the
> > > state either.....
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ted" <matches@starband.net> wrote in message
> > > news:Efthc.2100$FB1.407@fe25.usenetserver.com...
> > > > Great news everyone! A recumbent has won the 167
> > > > mile Bike Across
> > Florida
> > > > ride this past weekend. 47 year old John Schlitter
> > > > rote the 167 mile
> > > course
> > > > in 6:49 setting a course record and outrunning mayn
> > > > cat 1 and 2
riders
> > > that
> > > > were competing in the ride. John is one of the
> > > > owners of Bacchetta
> Bikes
> > > and
> > > > was riding a Bacchetta Aero, a titanium dual 650
> > > > recumbent. Here is
> the
> > > > story. http://www.chronicleonline.com/articles/2004-
> > > > /04/19/news/news01.txt
> > > >
Since when does one "win" a ride?
Danny Callen
The same way there is no winner of Paris-Brest-Paris.
"Danny Callen" <DannyCallen@yourshoescomcast.net> wrote in
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>
> "JTN" <jtn@usps.com> wrote in message
> news:108dj6mt25dr69b@corp.supernews.com...
> > I "woulda" beat him. I probably could have even bunny
> > hopped him at the
> line
> > if he didn't get out of my way. maybe even tapped his
> > helmet with my
rear
> > whell on the way over to give him a black scratch
> > souvenir.
> >
> >
> > "Ted" <matches@starband.net> wrote in message
> > news:7Uwhc.2125$FB1.1174@fe25.usenetserver.com...
> > > Woulda, shoulda, coulda
> > >
> > > Based on the statement made by the second place
> > > finisher,(the
recumbent
> > > could not climb or sprint good) he should have out
> > > sprinted him at the finish. Maybe the recumbent
> > > sprinted better than he stated "JTN" <jtn@usps.com>
> > > wrote in message
> > > news:108d0mtarr0jh0f@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > bill bachelors group would have won if they went
> > > > down the same
course.
> > its
> > > > not as flat as you think out in the middle of the
> > > > state either.....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Ted" <matches@starband.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:Efthc.2100$FB1.407@fe25.usenetserver.com...
> > > > > Great news everyone! A recumbent has won the 167
> > > > > mile Bike Across
> > > Florida
> > > > > ride this past weekend. 47 year old John Schlitter
> > > > > rote the 167
mile
> > > > course
> > > > > in 6:49 setting a course record and outrunning
> > > > > mayn cat 1 and 2
> riders
> > > > that
> > > > > were competing in the ride. John is one of the
> > > > > owners of Bacchetta
> > Bikes
> > > > and
> > > > > was riding a Bacchetta Aero, a titanium dual 650
> > > > > recumbent. Here
is
> > the
> > > > > story. http://www.chronicleonline.com/articles/20-
> > > > > 04/04/19/news/news01.txt
> > > > >
>
>
> Since when does one "win" a ride?
>
> Danny Callen
Ted,
I think JTN could be right. Without taking anything away
from him, it had to benefit John that the main group got
peeled off with a bad turn before the finish. John was
doing a solo effort, and a pod drafting in a group and
using strategy would have the advantage, all other factors
being equal.
There's pretty slim pickings available if the plan is to go
out and beat upright racers with a bent at an organized
event. Them's the rule's, no debate needed.. So we are
looking a racing only at the citizen level.
Sounds like they were all taking it seriously and trying to
prevail. The average speeds seems to be in the typical road
race range.
(snip)
> > Since when does one "win" a ride?
> >
> > Danny Callen
(snip)
>
> Since when does one "win" a ride?
>
> Danny Callen
>
>
In the article its referred to as a race "Bike Across
Florida Road Race".
"brian hughes" <bandjhughes@.nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:77Ghc.6306$e4.6079@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >
> >
> > Since when does one "win" a ride?
> >
> > Danny Callen
> >
From cyclingnews.com
Bike Across Florida 2004
The second edition of Bike Across Florida, a 167 mile road
race, will be held on April 18, 2004 and start in the ocean
resort town of Cocoa Beach. The course will wind through the
outskirts of Orlando and finish in downtown Crystal River.
The event, dubbed BAF 2004, will commence with an official-
send off from Mr. Beeles, the mayor of Cocoa Beach, marching
bands military colour guard, high school cheerleaders and a
motorcycle escort.
Last year's male winner Bill Blancher and female winner Lisa
Blixt will be defending their yellow jersey. It will be the
first time that the BAF will end in downtown Crystal River
where the mayor, supported by the homecoming queen, will be
presenting the winner's trophy.
coming from Florida I can attest that the "rides" down there
are faster than all races except the state champs. other
than that the rides far outpace the races in the past.
"Danny Callen" <DannyCallen@yourshoescomcast.net> wrote in
message news:eO-dnWD2RbUBZxvd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
>
> "JTN" <jtn@usps.com> wrote in message
> news:108dj6mt25dr69b@corp.supernews.com...
> > I "woulda" beat him. I probably could have even bunny
> > hopped him at the
> line
> > if he didn't get out of my way. maybe even tapped his
> > helmet with my
rear
> > whell on the way over to give him a black scratch
> > souvenir.
> >
> >
> > "Ted" <matches@starband.net> wrote in message
> > news:7Uwhc.2125$FB1.1174@fe25.usenetserver.com...
> > > Woulda, shoulda, coulda
> > >
> > > Based on the statement made by the second place
> > > finisher,(the
recumbent
> > > could not climb or sprint good) he should have out
> > > sprinted him at the finish. Maybe the recumbent
> > > sprinted better than he stated "JTN" <jtn@usps.com>
> > > wrote in message
> > > news:108d0mtarr0jh0f@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > bill bachelors group would have won if they went
> > > > down the same
course.
> > its
> > > > not as flat as you think out in the middle of the
> > > > state either.....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Ted" <matches@starband.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:Efthc.2100$FB1.407@fe25.usenetserver.com...
> > > > > Great news everyone! A recumbent has won the 167
> > > > > mile Bike Across
> > > Florida
> > > > > ride this past weekend. 47 year old John Schlitter
> > > > > rote the 167
mile
> > > > course
> > > > > in 6:49 setting a course record and outrunning
> > > > > mayn cat 1 and 2
> riders
> > > > that
> > > > > were competing in the ride. John is one of the
> > > > > owners of Bacchetta
> > Bikes
> > > > and
> > > > > was riding a Bacchetta Aero, a titanium dual 650
> > > > > recumbent. Here
is
> > the
> > > > > story. http://www.chronicleonline.com/articles/20-
> > > > > 04/04/19/news/news01.txt
> > > > >
>
>
> Since when does one "win" a ride?
>
> Danny Callen
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