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i arrived real early to see NO-ONE there yet. They were just
setting up the chip mats for the start. I went back to the
car to wait. It was chilly and raining. I had a bad feeling
that the rain would keep away the casual runners and so my
position would suffer. It didn't (keep them away that is).
Finally, the start. I was almost the last runner to cross
the mats. The guy I was running with wanted to pour it on
but I convinced him to run our plan which included a slow
first 2 K. As it turned out, we had no choice. The talker-
walkers were all running 3 and 4 abreast! We did a lot of
dodging around until we both agreed that to try to run
together would mean we'd have to find a hole big enough for
2 to go through. So he took off.
I poked along. Hit all my scheduled times within 30
seconds so I was pretty pleased with the run. A big
downpour half-way thru cooled us all down. i took water at
the first stop (3.5K). That was a mistake. I barely got a
couple of sips down without choking. Next time I'll just
skip it. For 10K anyway.
Around the 8 to 8.5K mark the course widened and there was
lots of room for easy passing (and being passed).
Incredibly, with the finish so close, some people had given
their all and were walking!
The finish was clean but a small corridor for chip
return meant a big log-jam of people. I couldn't see but
I hope the backup didn't extend to the chip finish line.
Might have tho.
Still figuring out the pre-race fuel. This time I had 2 fig
newtons and 500 ml of water. glug glug just before it
started. for the next few training runs, i'm going to try
eating 3 or 4 fig newtons.
The food tents were well stocked. bananas apples and bagels
by the bushel. i didn't see any pizza but i didn't walk
around much. It was still raining and windy so we headed to
the subway. there was a lineup for power bars which i assume
was because they were free. there was no way i would line up
for a cold bar. now, if that was steamy pizza, i might have
been tempted.
McDonalds on the way home (ice cream cone and chips) and good-to-
go. Hot shower at home sure felt good. ...thehick
frank-in-toronto <thehickNOSPAM@canada.com> wrote in
news:43ba90pn9rb7ib0s1siqq6ota6s5b9i420@4ax.com:
> Finally, the start. I was almost the last runner to cross
> the mats. The guy I was running with wanted to pour it on
> but I convinced him to run our plan which included a slow
> first 2 K. As it turned out, we had no choice. The talker-
> walkers were all running 3 and 4 abreast!
Argh! I hate that. Next time bring along a center and 2
guards. Or even better, one of those air horns used at
basketball games.
> i took water at the first stop (3.5K). That was a mistake.
> I barely got a couple of sips down without choking. Next
> time I'll just skip it. For 10K anyway.
Good idea. Not needed on up to a 10-miler to half-
marathon IMO.
> Still figuring out the pre-race fuel. This time I had 2
> fig newtons and 500 ml of water. glug glug just before it
> started. for the next few training runs, i'm going to try
> eating 3 or 4 fig newtons.
I wouldn't have any solid food closer than 1 1/2 hours pre-
race. Then, just before the start have 400 ml of some sort
of fluid replacement drink.
> McDonalds on the way home (ice cream cone and chips) and
> good-to-go.
That's why we run.
BTW, did you meet or beat your race goal? Thanks for
the report.
Phil M.
--
"Pain is temporary: the success it brings can be
everlasting." -fortune cookie
"frank-in-toronto" <thehickNOSPAM@canada.com> wrote in message
news:43ba90pn9rb7ib0s1siqq6ota6s5b9i420@4ax.com...
> i arrived real early to see NO-ONE there yet. They were
> just setting up the chip mats for the start. I went back
> to the car to wait. It was chilly and raining. I had a bad
> feeling that the rain would keep away the casual runners
> and so my position would suffer. It didn't (keep them away
> that is).
It was mayhem!!
<snip>
> I poked along. Hit all my scheduled times within 30
> seconds so I was pretty pleased with the run. A big
> downpour half-way thru cooled us all down. i took water at
> the first stop (3.5K). That was a mistake. I barely got a
> couple of sips down without choking. Next time I'll just
> skip it. For 10K anyway.
The weather sucked - you did well.
> Still figuring out the pre-race fuel. This time I had 2
> fig newtons and 500 ml of water. glug glug just before it
> started. for the next few training runs, i'm going to try
> eating 3 or 4 fig newtons.
Just curious... have you tries nothing at all? That works
for me for any race less than a half marathon.
> McDonalds on the way home (ice cream cone and chips) and
> good-to-go. Hot shower at home sure felt good. ...thehick
I had an entire pizza. :)
cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON) www.allfalldown.org "The most
insecure people are the ones you see, putting other people
down constantly."
frank-in-toronto wrote:
> I poked along. Hit all my scheduled times within 30
> seconds so I was pretty pleased with the run.
Way to keep things nicely paced.
> Still figuring out the pre-race fuel. This time I had 2
> fig newtons and 500 ml of water. glug glug just before it
> started. for the next few training runs, i'm going to try
> eating 3 or 4 fig newtons.
FWIW, my races usually start at least 2-2.5 hrs after I
leave the house (1-1.5 hr driving, which can be an adventure
in itself). I'll eat a semi-normal meal or snacks or
whatever (depends on race time, but usually towards noon,
maybe 10am) up to maybe .5-1 hr before I leave, then eat 1/2
to full power bar about 1/2 to 1 hr before race. I'm a
light, but frequent eater, and hate running hungry -
absolutely nothing to do with energy needs of race ;) But
you're probably right. If you've been running without
eating, you're ok for shorter distances but might want
something before a half, but maybe not. Try it and see. Only
you'll know what works.
> McDonalds on the way home (ice cream cone and chips) and
> good-to-go. Hot shower at home sure felt good. ...thehick
ahh, the best part.
> my goal was 54 minutes. chip time was 54:30 or so. i'm
> happy. with the pelting rain, chill and zig-zagging around
> slower runners,, i think i did pretty well. for me.
Well done! Congratulations.
Dot
--
"Success is different things to different people" -Bernd
Heinrich in Racing the Antelope
Congrats Frank! Sounds like you got your planned pacing down
well, which isn't easy to do. With more experience you'll
get drinking while running down, and figure out the best
stuff to eat.
Teresa in AZ
frank-in-toronto wrote:
> and good-to-go. Hot shower at home sure felt good.
> ...thehick
On Sun, 02 May 2004 20:09:50 GMT, "Phil M." <pmarg@charter.net> wrote:
>frank-in-toronto <thehickNOSPAM@canada.com> wrote in
>news:43ba90pn9rb7ib0s1siqq6ota6s5b9i420@4ax.com:
...
>Argh! I hate that. Next time bring along a center and 2
>guards. Or even better, one of those air horns used at
>basketball games.
really, like in a theatre. if you want to talk, can't you go
to a coffee shop? i doubt if it would have helped, but
putting a note in the handout saying "walkers on the right"
might not hurt. or maybe it was my fault for not knowing
where to position myself at the start.
...
>I wouldn't have any solid food closer than 1 1/2 hours pre-
>race. Then, just before the start have 400 ml of some sort
>of fluid replacement drink.
i read somewhere that it takes about 20 minutes for food or
water to get from ingestion to the blood/muscles. that's why
i ate a bit and drank some just before the start. i'm
experimenting along the way with how much and when to eat
because i did have a "problem" on an early morning training
run that forced me to make an emergency stop at an all-night
coffee stop. i don't ever want to have that "problem" again.
and i know that to step up to a half-marathon (probably NOT
this year), I'll need to have the food issue clear.
>> McDonalds on the way home (ice cream cone and chips) and
>> good-to-go.
>
>That's why we run.
no kidding. this refeed day is fabulous.
>BTW, did you meet or beat your race goal? Thanks for
>the report.
my goal was 54 minutes. chip time was 54:30 or so. i'm
happy. with the pelting rain, chill and zig-zagging around
slower runners,, i think i did pretty well. for me.
i have a question about timing. it looks to me like position
is taken from gun time. and so is placement in the different
groups (gender & age). is this normal? if it is then i'll
need to rethink my strategy for starting at the back. there
were several men in my age group who placed higher than me
but whose chip time is greater than mine!
also, another question... what does it mean when somebodys
chip time is equal to the gun time? exactly. and they were
no where near the front. i'll guess that it means they
didn't run over the start mat or, if they did, it didn't
register them. does that sound right? thanks...thehick
On Sun, 2 May 2004 18:50:38 -0400, "SwStudio"
<shhhh_secrets@hotmail.com> wrote: ...
>Just curious... have you tries nothing at all? That works
>for me for any race less than a half marathon.
i only started this eating craze a few weeks ago. i thought
maybe i could use the boost half way thru my 10K training
runs in the morning. i stopped eating anything before my
morning workouts a couple of years ago. this is an
experiment that doesn't cost me anything and, I'm hoping,
may come in handy later on. ...thehick
Phil M. wrote:
>
> Argh! I hate that. Next time bring along a center and 2
> guards. Or even better, one of those air horns used at
> basketball games.
>
That's a good idea to mount on a bike at duathlon when
walkers block the way. Thanks. :)
--
"Success is different things to different people" -Bernd
Heinrich in Racing the Antelope
On Mon, 03 May 2004 09:22:00 -0700, Teresa Bippert-Plymate
<teresa@as.arizona.edu> wrote:
>Congrats Frank! Sounds like you got your planned pacing
>down well, which isn't easy to do. With more experience
>you'll get drinking while running down, and figure out the
>best stuff to eat.
thanks. the pace part was easy cause i measured the course
the day before and had streets with distances with times on
a piece of paper in my pocket. i just checked it for each
marker and if i was too fast, slowed down a bit. incidently,
i was never too fast.
i'll keep trying the drinking thing. others do it. so can i.
thanks again for the up words...thehick
frank-in-toronto <thehickNOSPAM@canada.com> wrote in
news:ftna90hgjceokbv2iiil0uu4dvdhmqr73e@4ax.com:
> i read somewhere that it takes about 20 minutes for food
> or water to get from ingestion to the blood/muscles.
> that's why i ate a bit and drank some just before the
> start. i'm experimenting along the way with how much and
> when to eat because i did have a "problem" on an early
> morning training run that forced me to make an emergency
> stop at an all-night coffee stop. i don't ever want to
> have that "problem" again. and i know that to step up to a
> half-marathon (probably NOT this year), I'll need to have
> the food issue clear.
I don't think you need any extra carbs, other than the
drink, just before a 10K. You probably aren't any where near
depleting your glycogen stores, so the Gatorade-type drink
should be enough. I would just make sure you have something
easily digestible 1 1/2 to 2 hours before the event. Of
course, you need to experiment before your training runs to
see what works best for you.
>>BTW, did you meet or beat your race goal? Thanks for
>>the report.
> my goal was 54 minutes. chip time was 54:30 or so. i'm
> happy. with the pelting rain, chill and zig-zagging around
> slower runners,, i think i did pretty well. for me.
I'd say you did. Those are tough conditions for a race.
> also, another question... what does it mean when somebodys
> chip time is equal to the gun time? exactly. and they were
> no where near the front.
That doesn't sound right to me. Only the elites that
actually start on the starting line should have matching
chip and gun times.
Phil M.
--
"Pain is temporary: the success it brings can be
everlasting." -fortune cookie
"Phil M." <pmarg@charter.net> wrote in message
> frank-in-toronto <thehickNOSPAM@canada.com> wrote in
> > also, another question... what does it mean when
> > somebodys chip time is equal to the gun time? exactly.
> > and they were no where near the front.
>
> That doesn't sound right to me. Only the elites that
> actually start on the starting line should have matching
> chip and gun times.
There were quite a few teenagers goofing around at the start
that had no business being there. I imagine their chip times
were pretty close. Maybe Frank just meant people who had
slow times but "cheated" when seeding themselves, so it
appeared that the must have started further back by judging
their finish.
I can attest that I passed about 100 people in the
first mile.
cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON) www.allfalldown.org "The most
insecure people are the ones you see, putting other people
down constantly."
On Sun, 2 May 2004 19:12:27 -0400, "SwStudio"
<shhhh_secrets@hotmail.com> wrote:
>"Phil M." <pmarg@charter.net> wrote in message
>> frank-in-toronto <thehickNOSPAM@canada.com> wrote in
>
>> > also, another question... what does it mean when
>> > somebodys chip time is equal to the gun time? exactly.
>> > and they were no where near the front.
>>
>> That doesn't sound right to me. Only the elites that
>> actually start on the starting line should have matching
>> chip and gun times.
>
>
>
>There were quite a few teenagers goofing around at the
>start that had no business being there. I imagine their
>chip times were pretty close. Maybe Frank just meant people
>who had slow times but "cheated" when seeding themselves,
>so it appeared that the must have started further back by
>judging their finish.
no. i don't think that's what i mean. see here: http://www.- (http://www.-/)
canadarunningseries.com/results/2004/sl10k/sl10k.htm
#397
I thought I saw more earlier but maybe my eyes were funny.
Just seemed strange to me. exact to the tenth.
i had a question which may have been lost now. but i'll ask
again. is position and group placement by gun? like i think?
...thehick
"frank-in-toronto" <thehickNOSPAM@canada.com> wrote in
message
> On Sun, 2 May 2004 19:12:27 -0400, "SwStudio" no. i don't
> think that's what i mean. see here: http://www.canadarunn- (http://www.canadarunn-/)
> ingseries.com/results/2004/sl10k/sl10k.htm
>
> #397
>
> I thought I saw more earlier but maybe my eyes were funny.
> Just seemed strange to me. exact to the tenth.
I was right at the front - there were in fact several women
around me right at the gun, and it's conceivable that one of
them got their foot over the mat that quickly.
cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON) www.allfalldown.org "The most
insecure people are the ones you see, putting other people
down constantly."
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