Shoe Replacement Timing
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Newbie question here.
I've been running a little less than 6 mos. now. I'm up to
20-30 miles per week, running 9 miles for my long run.
I've entered a 1/2 marathon in September, which is about 2
weeks before my shoes will hit their 500 mile point. The
question is, do I replace them? If so, when. Should I do a
week of alternating the old ones and the new ones a few
weeks before hand?
Another question is, do the same shoe types be the same from
shoe to shoe? That is, if I buy a replacement pair of my
Asics Gel-Creeds (which I really like, BTW), will they
pretty much be the same as my old pair?
Of course, another factor is, it seems increasingly more
difficult to find these shoes now since they've been
"upgraded". I'm sure that the Creed-Plus is a bit different.
To find this out, of course, I would have to go to a store,
and then be obligated to pay full price for them.
What are policies on mail order places (Road Runner, etc)
regarding returning shoes? Even if I run in them once, I
can't return them, I would imagine.
Thanks,
Jeff.
"JR" <jrich7970@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:U7-dnXwKWPdNsQvdRVn-sA@comcast.com...
> Newbie question here.
>
> I've been running a little less than 6 mos. now. I'm up to
> 20-30 miles
per
> week, running 9 miles for my long run.
>
> I've entered a 1/2 marathon in September, which is about 2
> weeks before my shoes will hit their 500 mile point. The
> question is, do I replace them? If so, when.
Switch early. Save the old ones for rainy days until they're
truly dead.
a.
In article <U7-dnXwKWPdNsQvdRVn-sA@comcast.com>, JR wrote:
> I've entered a 1/2 marathon in September, which is about 2
> weeks before my shoes will hit their 500 mile point. The
> question is, do I replace them?
I wouldn't go into a race with worn out shoes. So if you
think they're worn out, replace them.
> If so, when.
Get your new pair as soon as possible.
> Should I do a week of alternating the old ones and the new
> ones a few weeks before hand?
Sure.
> Another question is, do the same shoe types be the same
> from shoe to shoe?
Usually, for small values of "the same". Sometimes, upgrades
are very similar to the previous version, sometimes they
change some things around. Some people like the changes,
some don't.
> What are policies on mail order places (Road Runner, etc)
> regarding returning shoes? Even if I run in them once, I
> can't return them, I would imagine.
Bad imagination. Run with them on a treadmill to minimize
the visible wear and damage on the shoe. RRS will let you
return shoes. footlocker.com let you return not only to the
store but also to their retail outlets.
Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
JR wrote:
> Newbie question here.
>
> I've been running a little less than 6 mos. now. I'm up to
> 20-30 miles per week, running 9 miles for my long run.
>
> I've entered a 1/2 marathon in September, which is about 2
> weeks before my shoes will hit their 500 mile point. The
> question is, do I replace them? If so, when. Should I do a
> week of alternating the old ones and the new ones a few
> weeks before hand?
I usually alternate 2 pairs. I have one broken-in pair (call
it 1) that I use for longer runs or mud. I have a 2nd pair
(call it 2) that I use only for short runs (30-45 min) until
broken in (about 1/2 dozen wearings until my orthotic seats
in the insole and get the right flexibility). When 1 is
getting up in use, it may get relegated to short runs or
very muddy runs and 2 is used for long runs. Pair 3 is
usually broken in about this time. I try to keep 2 broken-
in, but not broken-down, pairs at all times. I only run 3
times a week. If running more often, some people alternate
shoes by day.
>
> Another question is, do the same shoe types be the same
> from shoe to shoe? That is, if I buy a replacement pair of
> my Asics Gel-Creeds (which I really like, BTW), will they
> pretty much be the same as my old pair?
may be some slight variation.
>
> Of course, another factor is, it seems increasingly more
> difficult to find these shoes now since they've been
> "upgraded". I'm sure that the Creed-Plus is a bit
> different. To find this out, of course, I would have to
> go to a store, and then be obligated to pay full price
> for them.
Besides asking here, you might also try the RW shoe forum to
see what the changes are and whether they are working for
most or not. Almost always, the change works for some people
and not for others.
I'd find out soon whether the new shoe works for you. If yes
or another model works, then fine. If not, buy up all the
old model you can find in your size ;) Many times you can
find them on closeout for 1/2 price at places like
FootLocker.com (not the retail stores, but you can return
there) or sierratradingpost.com as well as others.
Dot
--
"Success is different things to different people" -Bernd
Heinrich in Racing the Antelope
Jeff,
If you are new and have a lot of specific questions I would
get my first few pairs from a good, local vendor. They can
guide you into what is best for you. Might cost a few more
bucks but until you know exactly what works for you it would
be nice to get help. Also buying local supports your local
economy and real people who live in your area.
I am not a vendor but i was in sales for awhile and saw
people come in and pick my brain for information and the
ability to touch and feel the product, only to go online and
buy it from some vendor 2000 miles away to save 20%. Its a
free country but that just seems morally wrong to me.
Shoes last longer then the vendors have you believe but mine
rarely last more then 6 months at 25 miles a week. Some
brands last longer but i feel its something a runner should
not cut corners on.. just my opinion.
Jim
"JR" <jrich7970@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:U7-dnXwKWPdNsQvdRVn-
sA@comcast.com...
> Newbie question here.
>
> I've been running a little less than 6 mos. now. I'm up to
> 20-30 miles
per
> week, running 9 miles for my long run.
>
> I've entered a 1/2 marathon in September, which is about 2
> weeks before my shoes will hit their 500 mile point. The
> question is, do I replace them? If so, when. Should I do a
> week of alternating the old ones and the new ones a few
> weeks before hand?
>
> Another question is, do the same shoe types be the same
> from shoe to shoe? That is, if I buy a replacement pair of
> my Asics Gel-Creeds (which I
really
> like, BTW), will they pretty much be the same as my
> old pair?
>
> Of course, another factor is, it seems increasingly more
> difficult to find these shoes now since they've been
> "upgraded". I'm sure that the
Creed-Plus
> is a bit different. To find this out, of course, I would
> have to go to a store, and then be obligated to pay full
> price for them.
>
> What are policies on mail order places (Road Runner, etc)
> regarding returning shoes? Even if I run in them once, I
> can't return them, I would imagine.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff.
Jeff
I'd say maybe 4-5 weeks befor your half get new shoes.
Alternate running in your current ones and new ones to make
sure there are no suprises. Once you're happy with the new
ones save them for the race. After the race retire the old
shoes and continue with the new.
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"Donovan Rebbechi" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <U7-dnXwKWPdNsQvdRVn-sA@comcast.com>, JR wrote:
>
> > I've entered a 1/2 marathon in September, which is about
> > 2 weeks before
my
> > shoes will hit their 500 mile point. The question is, do
> > I replace
them?
>
> I wouldn't go into a race with worn out shoes. So if you
> think they're
worn
> out, replace them.
>
> > If so, when.
>
> Get your new pair as soon as possible.
Well, like I said, the race is in September. At my current
weekly distance, that would put me in the 450 mile range
from now, so I wouldn't think I
have been, whats the minimum amount of time people usually
run in shoes before they're really comfortable in them?
With my current ones, I was pretty much used to them after
a few days, but when I got them, I wasn't running 8-9
miles at a time, and I certainly wasn't considering
running a 1/2 marathon.
>
> > What are policies on mail order places (Road Runner,
> > etc) regarding returning shoes? Even if I run in them
> > once, I can't return them, I
would
> > imagine.
>
> Bad imagination. Run with them on a treadmill to minimize
> the visible wear
and
> damage on the shoe. RRS will let you return shoes.
> footlocker.com let you return not only to the store but
> also to their retail outlets.
Wow, that's nice. I'll check them out.
Thanks.
Jeff.
"JM" <goodrunner@verizon.net> wrote in message
> Shoes last longer then the vendors have you believe but
> mine rarely last more then 6 months at 25 miles a week.
> Some brands last longer but i feel its something a runner
> should not cut corners on.. just my opinion.
Well said, and excellent advice.
cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON) www.allfalldown.org "The most
insecure people are the ones you see, putting other people
down constantly."
In article <l-6dnYBNH65wVgvdRVn-vg@comcast.com>, JR wrote:
> Well, like I said, the race is in September. At my current
> weekly distance, that would put me in the 450 mile range
> from now, so I wouldn't think I
Why not ?
> Actually my question should have been, whats the minimum
> amount of time people usually run in shoes before they're
> really comfortable in them?
I'm usually comfortable in them when I first get them. This
is the way it should be with running shoes.
You know, some of us use racing flats, and these are usually
not used for regular training. My only running in my flats
before a race was a quick test consisting of a few 50m
dashes up and down my street.
Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> In article <l-6dnYBNH65wVgvdRVn-vg@comcast.com>, JR wrote:
>>Actually my question should have been, whats the minimum
>>amount of time people usually run in shoes before they're
>>really comfortable in them?
>
> I'm usually comfortable in them when I first get them.
> This is the way it should be with running shoes.
Agreed that running shoes are normally comfortable right
away. But, I wouldn't want to wear new shoes for the very
first time in a race. A rough spot in the shoe could cause a
person not to finish the race.
The "break-in" period can be short, perhaps only a couple
weeks, but not zero.
"Steve Hansen" <spambucket312@earthlink.net> wrote in
message
> Agreed that running shoes are normally comfortable right
> away. But, I wouldn't want to wear new shoes for the very
> first time in a race. A rough spot in the shoe could cause
> a person not to finish the race.
>
> The "break-in" period can be short, perhaps only a couple
> weeks, but not zero.
I'd have to disagree, I think the break-in period for a new
pair of running shoes is anywhere from 2 to 5 miles. Maybe
double that for heavier, stiffer shoes. If you still notice
them in any way after that, you are wearing the wrong shoes.
cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON) www.allfalldown.org "The most
insecure people are the ones you see, putting other people
down constantly."
You might try just replacing the insoles of the shoes with a
quality pair. I found by doing this (at the suggestion of
someone on this n.g.) I tripled the mileage I was getting
out of my shoes. Also, I have been ordering from Road Runner
Sports for several years and am a member of the RAC club
which costs about $20 a year. The membership saves me about
$5 on a yearly purchase of a pair of running shoes so the
net cost of the club membership is $15. One of the other
benefits is their 60 day wear it and love it guarantee or
send it back used or not for an exchange or full refund. I
have found their customer service to be excellent.
"Jtiche" <jtiche@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040503131152.12081.00000588@mb-m04.aol.com...
> You might try just replacing the insoles of the shoes with
> a quality pair.
Well, I already have Superfeet insoles, so I'll be re-using
them. Although that makes me wonder, could I get more than
500 miles out of them (the shoes) in this case?
Anyone?
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