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As subscribers to the list ukrunning will already know, it's
proposed that we have a virtual run-off over a measured mile
tomorrow (which is the actual anniversary date.)
If you can find yourselves a track (or any measured
mile/1609.34 meters) tomorrow, have a go and post your times
back here.
Tim
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Unfortunately, my measured mile isn't flat, but I'll give
it a bash.
I met Sir Roger on Saturday - lovely chap!!
D
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"Tim Downie" <timdownie2003@obvious.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
message news:c7a8et$1evdv$1@ID-81538.news.uni-berlin.de...
> As subscribers to the list ukrunning will already know,
> it's proposed that we have a virtual run-off over a
> measured mile tomorrow (which is the
actual
> anniversary date.)
>
> If you can find yourselves a track (or any measured
> mile/1609.34 meters) tomorrow, have a go and post your
> times back here.
>
> Tim
>
> --
> Remove the obvious to reply by email.
In message <slrnc9hc4m.21i.paul@strut.sbrk.co.uk>,
paul@atom.sbrk.co.uk writes
>In article <c7a8et$1evdv$1@ID-81538.news.uni-berlin.de>,
>Tim Downie wrote:
>> As subscribers to the list ukrunning will already
>> know, it's proposed that we have a virtual run-off
>> over a measured mile tomorrow (which is the actual
>> anniversary date.)
>>
>> If you can find yourselves a track (or any measured
>> mile/1609.34 meters) tomorrow, have a go and post your
>> times back here.
>
>Since I'm hardly likely to hit 4 minutes, (or 5 (or even
>6)), will a GPS do?
>
Can't even walk a mile at the moment, doesn't look as though
I'll be running for another week yet :o(
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In article <c7a8et$1evdv$1@ID-81538.news.uni-berlin.de>, Tim Downie wrote:
> As subscribers to the list ukrunning will already
> know, it's proposed that we have a virtual run-off
> over a measured mile tomorrow (which is the actual
> anniversary date.)
>
> If you can find yourselves a track (or any measured
> mile/1609.34 meters) tomorrow, have a go and post your
> times back here.
We have a 1 mile race on an indoor track in my part of town.
I'm really looking forward to it.
Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
Sorry. I only run when faced with danger, not to celebrate
meaningless anniversaries. I shudder to think what you all
do to celebrate astro-glide's anniversary...
In <c7a8et$1evdv$1@ID-81538.news.uni-berlin.de> Tim Downie
walked upto the bar ordered a large malt and said...
> have a go and post your times back here.
>
>
5:02
Flying start i.e. crossed the line at pace.
Chrono on wrist so time could be + or - 1 sec
Measured mile was mile 3 in a 7 mile hard run on the flat
towpath of a canal gentle curve left over entire mile.
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The Barsteward
Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
--Benjamin Franklin
Re: 50th anniversary of the sub 4 minute mile
Group: rec.running Date: Wed, May 5, 2004, 10:40am From:
High_Colonic@webtv.net (Miss=A0Anne=A0Thrope) Sorry. I only
run when faced with danger, not to celebrate meaningless
anniversaries. I shudder to think what you all do to
celebrate astro-glide's anniversary...
roll in goo of course. (catwoman). He ment post time for all
4 minute mile runs this day. or go all out.
or then again.? oh hell. 4 minute mile run for sprinters.
get you . astro-slide. Right....
Go chase a bus.
Tim Downie wrote:
> As subscribers to the list ukrunning will already
> know, it's proposed that we have a virtual run-off
> over a measured mile tomorrow (which is the actual
> anniversary date.)
>
> If you can find yourselves a track (or any measured
> mile/1609.34 meters) tomorrow, have a go and post your
> times back here.
>
> Tim
>
5m34.5 for 4 laps of lane 3, which I calculate to be 5m24
for a mile. Which beats my race time for 1600 by 5 seconds,
so I'm happy :)
Ben
I didn't see this till tonight (6 May) ... anyhow, I was out leading our
slowest beginners group this afternoon and it's a mile (give or take 10
metres) from the last road we cross to theclub house, along a woodland
trail, mainly downhill. We did it in 9 minutes.
j
"Tim Downie" <timdownie2003@obvious.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:c7a8et$1evdv$1@ID-81538.news.uni-berlin.de...
> As subscribers to the list ukrunning will already know,
> it's proposed that we have a virtual run-off over a
> measured mile tomorrow (which is the
actual
> anniversary date.)
>
> If you can find yourselves a track (or any measured
> mile/1609.34 meters) tomorrow, have a go and post your
> times back here.
>
> Tim
>
> --
> Remove the obvious to reply by email.
In article <c7a8et$1evdv$1@ID-81538.news.uni-berlin.de>, Tim Downie wrote:
> As subscribers to the list ukrunning will already
> know, it's proposed that we have a virtual run-off
> over a measured mile tomorrow (which is the actual
> anniversary date.)
>
> If you can find yourselves a track (or any measured
> mile/1609.34 meters) tomorrow, have a go and post your
> times back here.
Beautiful indoor track, and they played a movie of
Bannister's historic run at the start of the meet.
4:50.
Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
5:38.I started speed work the last three weeks and it must
be working. I need to get a little bit faster for the
40 min 10K but it looks like it will be close.
Mark
http://running.krisandmark.com (http://running.krisandmark.com/)
"Tim Downie" <timdownie2003@obvious.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
message news:c7a8et$1evdv$1@ID-81538.news.uni-berlin.de...
> As subscribers to the list ukrunning will already know,
> it's proposed that we have a virtual run-off over a
> measured mile tomorrow (which is the
actual
> anniversary date.)
>
> If you can find yourselves a track (or any measured
> mile/1609.34 meters) tomorrow, have a go and post your
> times back here.
>
> Tim
>
> --
> Remove the obvious to reply by email.
The Barsteward wrote:
> In <c7a8et$1evdv$1@ID-81538.news.uni-berlin.de> Tim Downie
> walked upto the bar ordered a large malt and said...
>> have a go and post your times back here.
>>
>>
>
> 5:02
I hate you already.
Besides, it doesn't count 'cause you're a day early (and you
cheated with your flying start). ;-)
Tim
(Who'll be immensly happy if he can scrape a sub 6)
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Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> Beautiful indoor track, and they played a movie of
> Bannister's historic run at the start of the meet.
>
> 4:50.
Great run. I'm very jealous. ;-)
Tim
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"Donovan Rebbechi" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message
> Beautiful indoor track, and they played a movie of
> Bannister's historic
run
> at the start of the meet.
>
> 4:50.
Wow Donvan, that is incredible! IIRC, you ran 1:21 in a
half marathon just a couple months ago and were very
very pleased.
Now with no specific mile training at all you have run the
equivalent of a 1:16:xx half, or a sub-16:40 5k. An
unbelievable jump. What was your last 5k time?! Wasn't it
high 17's?
The best part of this is that your improvement rate is still
so fast that it's not unreasonable to be thinking sub-16:00
for 5k by the end of the summer, if that. Congrats.
cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON) www.allfalldown.org "The most
insecure people are the ones you see, putting other people
down constantly."
> (Who'll be immensly happy if he can scrape a sub 6)
>
How quickly you forget... ;)
>I mean, how hard can it be? It's just a question of running
>flat out >for
a
>few seconds and surely we can all do that?
Substitute minutes for seconds...
Hope you don't suffer the same fate that awaited your
100m dash...
Good luck Tim,
Johnny
(Would be delighted to break 7 mins)
In <c7b3vt$1sol6$1@ID-81538.news.uni-berlin.de> Tim Downie
walked upto the bar ordered a large malt and said...
> cause you're a day early
>
Doh!!!
Does that mean I have to do it again?
That will teach me to read posts in context with the
headers.......
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The Barsteward
Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
--Benjamin Franklin
In article <M8Lmc.4321$_o1.697951@read2.cgocable.net>, SwStudio wrote:
> "Donovan Rebbechi" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message
>> Beautiful indoor track, and they played a movie of
>> Bannister's historic
> run
>> at the start of the meet.
>>
>> 4:50.
>
>
> Wow Donvan, that is incredible! IIRC, you ran 1:21 in a
> half marathon just a couple months ago and were very very
> pleased.
Yep.
> Now with no specific mile training at all you have run the
> equivalent of a 1:16:xx half, or a sub-16:40 5k. An
> unbelievable jump. What was your last 5k time?! Wasn't it
> high 17's?
Training's been going quite well. After "training week
ending April 11", I dropped milage and increased the pace of
speed workouts (sharpening). Speed work since then has
consisted of Fartlek, the ladder on a track (sets of
800,400,2x200 or 800,2x400,4x200 with the 800 reps run at
mile pace, and the 200m reps run faster than 800m pace) and
group runs with my teammates. Recently, I've tried running
with two of the faster guys, both who've run sub
1:16 for half marathons. Needless to say, this was a suicide
mission, but running along these guys (in stride with
them) forces one to run fast without sprinting.
Here's a brief summary of my recent race performances and
the training that accompanied it:
Races: Feb 26: Mile in 5:06 Feb 28: 4 Mile in 23:19
(comparable to 17:51 5k) Mar 14: Half marathon in 1:21:49
Apr 04: 10k in 37:24 Apr 25: 4 Mile in 22:38 (comparable to
17:20 5k) May 06: Mile in 4:50
Training: Feb 01: base building ends. Begin light speed work
(anaerobic reps, tempo run) Mar 01: start heavy training:
4x1200 twice a week. Mar 16: group sessions start. Replace
one of the 4x1200 with tough group work. Apr 12: heavy
training ends. Milage down to 40-45 (from 60+), no more long
intervals on the track.
The interesting thing about this is that I appear to have
"double-peaked" (even though this wasn't planned). That is,
the first phase of relatively easy speed work that follows
base-building is a good opportunity to go for new PRs, just
before training load peaks. When training load picked up, I
ran a relatively poor race (the 10k) This is something I'm
going to attend to next training cycle.
I have a 5k coming up on Sunday, then a half-marathon a week
later. Then I am done for Spring racing.
> The best part of this is that your improvement rate is
> still so fast that it's not unreasonable to be thinking
> sub-16:00 for 5k by the end of the summer, if that.
> Congrats.
We'll just see how it goes. I'm going to be back on a 24
week schedule for the NY marathon, but the first 12 weeks
are much like a middle-distance program, so if I can double-
peak, I may be able to get in some good 5-10k races after it
cools down.
Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
"Johnny" <newman.johnnynossppaamm@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
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>
> > (Who'll be immensly happy if he can scrape a sub 6)
> >
>
>
> How quickly you forget... ;)
>
> >I mean, how hard can it be? It's just a question of
> >running flat out
> for
> a
> >few seconds and surely we can all do that?
>
> Substitute minutes for seconds...
Okay, I agree it's unlikely but I've already written off my
100m time as being down to bad timing. ;-)
If I base it on my 5k time (19:52) then I do get a sub 6
time. Against that is that fact that I've done no training
for the mile. What's more, I'm not planning on using any
pacemakers. ;-)
> Hope you don't suffer the same fate that awaited your
> 100m dash...
>
> Good luck Tim,
Cheers.
>
> Johnny
>
> (Would be delighted to break 7 mins)
Come on, don't be shy. Give us a prediction.
Tim
I tried about a year ago when training was going well and
I'd started to feel like a runner again after a few years
away... Crossed the line in 6:23; that on a flat seafront in
Eastbourne..
Since then I moved to France and struggled with the odd
lower leg problem and a tendency to enjoy life a bit
too much!!
I reckon I'd genuinely be delighted with 6:40..
See you at the start line...
Johnny
"Johnny" <newman.johnnynossppaamm@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
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> See you at the start line...
Well.... (getting the excuses ready)
...we trotted down to our local school grass track and one
of our senior club members started out by pacing out the 9
metres needed to make it a
mile. Being a born sceptic, I had asked that the measuring
wheel be brought along and I went out and measured
the "400"m track. Turned out it was only 372m which
rather upset one or two people who've being using the
track for their 400m training.
After moving the start line we we ready for the off.
The club's faster runners were AWOL so it was me leading for
the first lap. As usual, I felt like I was dying after one
lap. I got passed on the second lap when I just felt I
couldn't go any faster. I held my position on the third lap
(and my pace) but when I hit the last lap, I discovered that
I still had a lot in reserve. Flew past my rivals on the
last lap and crossed the line in 6:10.
A bit disappointed not to be nearer the magic "5" as the
race predictors were all giving times well under 6 minutes
(based on my 5k time). Given my lack of 1 mile training,
rather poor track surface and legs not as fresh as they
could have been, perhaps I shouldn't be too downhearted.
I'm definitely going to have to have another go at it!
Tim
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