Pain? Serious or work through it?

[Rich]

Hello all. Quick question for you. I'm not a big runner. In
military and pushed myself too hard 2 weeks ago today. Now,
I've got a pain on my lower leg: it's a 1" diameter
sensitive/painful spot, about 5" above my ankle, on the edge
of the bone on the inner side of my leg. (or, an inch below
center between my knee and my ankle).

I've figured out that I'm an overpronator, wrongly wearing
the wrong shoes--they were my Reebox DMX lites, without an
extra arch supports.

My regular DMX's with a 3/4 length arch support had served
me well for the little treadmill running I've done over the
past year... but this was on pavement with no arch support.
Related? I don't know.

I've already purchased a pair of Asics Kayano X's with a
graphite orthotic.

Do I push through the pain or take it easy? What do
you suggest?

Thanks for your time. Please don't reply to dead e-
mail address.

Sincerely, Rich

[David Hallswort]

Take it easy.

Google a recent thread on uk.rec.running called 'questions
from a newbie'

D

--

Ask for my e-mail if needed

"Rich" <rseifertweb@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:75639161.0405051948.60c99d95@posting.google.com...
> Hello all. Quick question for you. I'm not a big runner.
> In military and pushed myself too hard 2 weeks ago today.
> Now, I've got a pain on my lower leg: it's a 1" diameter
> sensitive/painful spot, about 5" above my ankle, on the
> edge of the bone on the inner side of my leg. (or, an inch
> below center between my knee and my ankle).
>
> I've figured out that I'm an overpronator, wrongly wearing
> the wrong shoes--they were my Reebox DMX lites, without an
> extra arch supports.
>
> My regular DMX's with a 3/4 length arch support had served
> me well for the little treadmill running I've done over
> the past year... but this was on pavement with no arch
> support. Related? I don't know.
>
> I've already purchased a pair of Asics Kayano X's with a
> graphite orthotic.
>
> Do I push through the pain or take it easy? What do you
> suggest?
>
> Thanks for your time. Please don't reply to dead e-mail
> address.
>
> Sincerely, Rich

[Donovan Rebbech]

In article <75639161.0405051948.60c99d95@posting.google.com>, Rich wrote:
> Hello all. Quick question for you. I'm not a big runner.
> In military and pushed myself too hard 2 weeks ago today.
> Now, I've got a pain on my lower leg: it's a 1" diameter
> sensitive/painful spot, about 5" above my ankle, on the
> edge of the bone on the inner side of my leg. (or, an inch
> below center between my knee and my ankle).

Stop running for now, and google for "stress fracture". You
probably should see a doctor about it, this injury requires
careful attention and treatment.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

[Joe]

You're benched! Take at least 5-6 weeks off and then start
off slow again. I would be willing to be all my money you
have a stress fracture.

See an athletic trainer and get an x-ray in about two weeks
when the bone callus will be formed so you know for sure.

Joe

"Rich" <rseifertweb@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:75639161.0405051948.60c99d95@posting.google.com...
> Hello all. Quick question for you. I'm not a big runner.
> In military and pushed myself too hard 2 weeks ago today.
> Now, I've got a pain on my lower leg: it's a 1" diameter
> sensitive/painful spot, about 5" above my ankle, on the
> edge of the bone on the inner side of my leg. (or, an inch
> below center between my knee and my ankle).
>
> I've figured out that I'm an overpronator, wrongly wearing
> the wrong shoes--they were my Reebox DMX lites, without an
> extra arch supports.
>
> My regular DMX's with a 3/4 length arch support had served
> me well for the little treadmill running I've done over
> the past year... but this was on pavement with no arch
> support. Related? I don't know.
>
> I've already purchased a pair of Asics Kayano X's with a
> graphite orthotic.
>
> Do I push through the pain or take it easy? What do you
> suggest?
>
> Thanks for your time. Please don't reply to dead e-mail
> address.
>
> Sincerely, Rich

[Rich]

Very helpful Dave. Thanks for the insight...I've requested a
copy of your briefing! Thanks again!

Warm Regards, Rich

"David Hallsworth" <david.hallsworth@SPAM.com> wrote in
message news:<c7d1vb$lmq$1@news.ox.ac.uk>...
> Take it easy.
>
> Google a recent thread on uk.rec.running called 'questions
> from a newbie'
>
> D

[Joshua Steinber]

Rich wrote:
> In military and pushed myself too hard 2 weeks ago today.
> Now, I've got a pain on my lower leg: it's a 1" diameter
> sensitive/painful spot, about 5" above my ankle, on the
> edge of the bone on the inner side of my leg. (or, an inch
> below center between my knee and my ankle). ... Do I push
> through the pain or take it easy? What do you suggest?

As the doctor in this group, I'm supposed to be the
overconservative one around here, so I'm really surprised
that every respondent has jumped to the conclusion that you
have a stress fracture. And of course that is possible, but
why think of an unlikely and severe injury rather than a
common and less severe one? Doesn't shin splints come to
mind, just as an example of an alternative plausible
explanation?

Mind you, the description of pain is sparse, and no
description regarding timing of when it's better and worse,
etc., so it's quite unclear what's going on. But still, you
folks are all dispensing advice like "take 5-6 weeks off"
rather hastily when "get checked out" and "get a diagnosis"
might be even better.

-- Josh Steinberg (MD), Syracuse

[Jm]

With experience you learn that there is a difference between
discomfort and pain. I am often uncomfortable when I run the
first few miles, but no runner should ever run through pain.
The information you provided is sparse but I would think a
visit to a Physical Therapist would be your best bet. It
might be something minor, like shin splints, or a sign
something else is wrong. It might even be your technique or
your shoes.

Keep at it. Keep us informed.

Jim

"Rich" <rseifertweb@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:75639161.0405051948.60c99d95@posting.google.com...
> Hello all. Quick question for you. I'm not a big runner.
> In military and pushed myself too hard 2 weeks ago today.
> Now, I've got a pain on my lower leg: it's a 1" diameter
> sensitive/painful spot, about 5" above my ankle, on the
> edge of the bone on the inner side of my leg. (or, an inch
> below center between my knee and my ankle).
>
> I've figured out that I'm an overpronator, wrongly wearing
> the wrong shoes--they were my Reebox DMX lites, without an
> extra arch supports.
>
> My regular DMX's with a 3/4 length arch support had served
> me well for the little treadmill running I've done over
> the past year... but this was on pavement with no arch
> support. Related? I don't know.
>
> I've already purchased a pair of Asics Kayano X's with a
> graphite orthotic.
>
> Do I push through the pain or take it easy? What do you
> suggest?
>
> Thanks for your time. Please don't reply to dead e-mail
> address.
>
> Sincerely, Rich

[Jbones]

I had the exact same problem on both ankles at some point. I
remember finishing up one of my runs with both feet numb.
Something was definitely wrong. I followed the whole
R.I.C.E. methodology and started supplementing running with
either the stationary or mountain bike. Since then, my
ankles have been the least of my problems.

"Rich" <rseifertweb@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:75639161.0405051948.60c99d95@posting.google.com...
> Hello all. Quick question for you. I'm not a big runner.
> In military and pushed myself too hard 2 weeks ago today.
> Now, I've got a pain on my lower leg: it's a 1" diameter
> sensitive/painful spot, about 5" above my ankle, on the
> edge of the bone on the inner side of my leg. (or, an inch
> below center between my knee and my ankle).
>
> I've figured out that I'm an overpronator, wrongly wearing
> the wrong shoes--they were my Reebox DMX lites, without an
> extra arch supports.
>
> My regular DMX's with a 3/4 length arch support had served
> me well for the little treadmill running I've done over
> the past year... but this was on pavement with no arch
> support. Related? I don't know.
>
> I've already purchased a pair of Asics Kayano X's with a
> graphite orthotic.
>
> Do I push through the pain or take it easy? What do you
> suggest?
>
> Thanks for your time. Please don't reply to dead e-mail
> address.
>
> Sincerely, Rich

[Virginiaz]

JB Bones said:

<< I followed the whole R.I.C.E. methodology and started
supplementing running with either the stationary or mountain
bike. Since then, my ankles have been the least of my
problems. >>

and what are the most of your problems now? let me
guess, knees?

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[Rich]

Hello again to all. I saw an orthopedic specialist yesterday
... nothing conclusive on my x-ray, but he's not ruling-out
a minor stress fracture at it's infancy stage. I've been off
it (not running, but cycling instead) for a week now ... he
told me to stay off it through the end of the month, and to
start running again on the first week of June. If I feel
pain by the end of that first week, I'm to use the x-ray
slip he gave me to go back and get another x-ray, followed
by another appointment with him.

I pointed out a very, very slight "line" (emphasis on very
if you hadn't caught that ;-) that ran across the medial
tibial area in a top-down view in the location of my pain,
but not in the side view. He said it was still too
inconclusive and normally there's a much more well-defined
line. If I still experience pain in a few weeks, evidence of
a healing stress fracture will be more apparent. (JoeBlow
... nailed it with, "See an athletic trainer and get an x-
ray in about two weeks when the bone callus will be formed
so you know for sure.") ... I hadn't read your post yet ...
nor yours Dr. Steinberg.

I asked if I should be using heat-packs to keep it warm and
promote blood flow--and he snapped his head at me in panick
... "No ... no heat ... you need ice ... only use ice." This
is different that what I understood from Dr. Hallsworth's
MTSS briefing, where "Symptomatic relief can be gained from
icing the affected area, with an ice cube for 5mins, or
using a cold-pack for 30mins" but still I thought heat long-
term heat would promote healing.

So ... I'll keep from running on it and continue with
cycling. I'll keep you all posted. Thanks for taking
time to reply.

Regards, Rich (Please don't reply via e-mail ... dead
address).

rseifertweb@earthlink.net (Rich) wrote in message
news:<75639161.0405051948.60c99d95@posting.google.com>...
> Hello all. Quick question for you. I'm not a big runner.
> In military and pushed myself too hard 2 weeks ago today.
> Now, I've got a pain on my lower leg: it's a 1" diameter
> sensitive/painful spot, about 5" above my ankle, on the
> edge of the bone on the inner side of my leg. (or, an inch
> below center between my knee and my ankle).
>
> I've figured out that I'm an overpronator, wrongly wearing
> the wrong shoes--they were my Reebox DMX lites, without an
> extra arch supports.
>
> My regular DMX's with a 3/4 length arch support had served
> me well for the little treadmill running I've done over
> the past year... but this was on pavement with no arch
> support. Related? I don't know.
>
> I've already purchased a pair of Asics Kayano X's with a
> graphite orthotic.
>
> Do I push through the pain or take it easy? What do you
> suggest?
>
> Thanks for your time. Please don't reply to dead e-mail
> address.
>
> Sincerely, Rich