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my martial arts instructor wants me to make my running
target "the six minute mile". he wants me to do the 2 1/4
miles that was run on saturday mornings in about 14 minutes.
i told him sure just because he's my superior in the chain
of command, but i don't know if he's just setting the bar to
a different level because it's me or whatever.
- k i t z - "winners forget they're in a race. they just
love to run." -simon wilder
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"kitznegari thinks it has wings" <kitznegari@aol.com> wrote in
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> my martial arts instructor wants me to make my running
> target "the
six minute
> mile". he wants me to do the 2 1/4 miles that was run on
> saturday
mornings in
> about 14 minutes.
Simple curiosity - what does he think is magical about a 6
minute mile?
--
Doug Freese
dfreese@NOBShvc.rr.com
(Remove the NOBS)
sorry dude not good idea MA is not runnig a very good way to
get hurt i am not saying it can not be done but speed will
come / your body should get use to the miles 1st plodzilla
kitznegari thinks it has wings wrote:
>
> my martial arts instructor wants me to make my running
> target "the six minute mile". he wants me to do the 2 1/4
> miles that was run on saturday mornings in about 14
> minutes.
>
> i told him sure just because he's my superior in the chain
> of command, but i don't know if he's just setting the bar
> to a different level because it's me or whatever.
>
> - k i t z - "winners forget they're in a race. they just
> love to run." -simon wilder
> http://spinning_plates.tripod.com (http://spinning_plates.tripod.com/)
>
> http://www.livejournal.com/users/kitznegari 28 more days
> until my D1 test.
kitznegari@aol.com (kitznegari thinks it has wings) wrote in
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> my martial arts instructor wants me to make my running
> target "the six minute mile". he wants me to do the 2 1/4
> miles that was run on saturday mornings in about 14
> minutes.
When do these goals have to be achieved? What is your
current mile time? What is your fastest 400 meter time (once
around a 400m track)? Keep in mind that a mile is 4 times
around a 400m track + about 10 meters. What is your current
training like? Do you have any other issues that could
impede your progress towards this goal, such as weight?
> i told him sure just because he's my superior in the chain
> of command, but i don't know if he's just setting the bar
> to a different level because it's me or whatever.
It's probably whatever. ;-)
Phil M.
--
"Pain is temporary: the success it brings can be
everlasting."
"kitznegari thinks it has wings" <kitznegari@aol.com> wrote in message
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> my martial arts instructor wants me to make my running
> target "the six
minute
> mile". he wants me to do the 2 1/4 miles that was run on
> saturday
mornings in
> about 14 minutes.
>
> i told him sure just because he's my superior in the chain
> of command, but
i
> don't know if he's just setting the bar to a different
> level because it's
me or
> whatever.
Yeah, I'm with plodzilla. It seems like an ill-thought-out
goal for someone who just started running regularly last
week and runs 12:30 miles right now. A 6-minute mile might
not be impossible, but it's not something that you could
probably do in one year, or even two. That's roughly
equivalent to about a sub-20 5K? That's really quite an
accomplishment for a female "recreational" runner
(especially if running is your "secondary" sport!) One of
the group female regulars just broke the 20-minute barrier,
but she trains very hard (currently at 60+ miles a week) and
presumably has been building toward this point for a number
of years. I'm sure the regulars will all know plenty of sub-
20 women 5Kers, but I bet most of them have been
running/training for years.
First off, URA punkass *****, only a pussy lies about
their martial arts experience, secondly any punk can do a
6 mm, even homos like Realbitchy and Freeze can do it (in
their cars)..
kitznegari@aol.com (kitznegari thinks it has wings) wrote in
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> my martial arts instructor wants me to make my running
> target "the six minute mile". he wants me to do the 2 1/4
> miles that was run on saturday mornings in about 14
> minutes.
>
> i told him sure just because he's my superior in the chain
> of command, but i don't know if he's just setting the bar
> to a different level because it's me or whatever.
>
> - k i t z - "winners forget they're in a race. they just
> love to run." -simon wilder
> http://spinning_plates.tripod.com (http://spinning_plates.tripod.com/)
>
> http://www.livejournal.com/users/kitznegari 28 more days
> until my D1 test.
with all else is his sport MA 1st and running 2nd i run /
ultra-run / climb / MA - gung fu ( what r u) / Vball / swim
i can be a jack of all trades and a master at none i run
better than i climb but i luv climbing better than i run(go
figure) i have friends that want me to do paintball /
rollerblade / ice skate / water ski but if i injury my self
by doing any of those then i am back to base one ,,,, and
that REaLLY sux of course then there is things like marriege
/ kids / kids school and such i am not married so i am not
torn tween 2 or more comitments. The more you add on a plate
the more torn u will B and a 6 minute mile could be a
commitment at the expense of MA and other food on your
plate. the zilla has spoken. you can burn twice as bright
but only half as long ,,,, learn to burn bright and
longggggg ,,,, injury free!! plodzilla
kitznegari thinks it has wings wrote:
>
> my martial arts instructor wants me to make my running
> target "the six minute mile". he wants me to do the 2 1/4
> miles that was run on saturday mornings in about 14
> minutes.
>
> i told him sure just because he's my superior in the chain
> of command, but i don't know if he's just setting the bar
> to a different level because it's me or whatever.
>
> - k i t z - "winners forget they're in a race. they just
> love to run." -simon wilder
> http://spinning_plates.tripod.com (http://spinning_plates.tripod.com/)
>
> http://www.livejournal.com/users/kitznegari 28 more days
> until my D1 test.
"Doug Freese" <dfreese@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<2unnc.61472$Nn4.14463377@twister.nyc.rr.com>...
> "> Simple curiosity -
gentolm <gentolm@boeing.com> wrote in message news:<409F0230.872A088B@boeing.com>...
> i am not married
Don't worry Gent, with the new gay marriage laws and the new
openness, I'm sure the right guy will come along soon.
>Simple curiosity - what does he think is magical about a 6
>minute mile?
that's just the goal he set for me. nothing magical... it's
just a goal.
- k i t z - "winners forget they're in a race. they just
love to run." -simon wilder
http://spinning_plates.tripod.com (http://spinning_plates.tripod.com/)
http://www.livejournal.com/users/kitznegari 28 more days
until my D1 test.
>When do these goals have to be achieved?
no specific time... i think he just wants me to try as hard
as i can until i'm there. (and it's working. i've been going
like a maniac since he proposed that we "go for a jog" one
saturday, heh)
>What is your current mile time?
probably about 12 minutes. i'm slooooow right now :)
>What is your fastest 400 meter time (once around a
>400m track)?
i've haven't the foggiest idea. haven't run on a track since
high school.
>What is your current training like?
just started.
>Do you have any other issues that could impede your
>progress towards this goal, such as weight?
weight isn't really a problem... i just generally need to
get in better shape.
- k i t z - "winners forget they're in a race. they just
love to run." -simon wilder
http://spinning_plates.tripod.com (http://spinning_plates.tripod.com/)
http://www.livejournal.com/users/kitznegari 28 more days
until my D1 test.
>sorry dude not good idea MA is not runnig
but he's a runner and wants to see me be successful in the
school because i'm just generally in better shape. i'm the
senior student and want to be the best i can be :)
>a very good way to get hurt
?
>i am not saying it can not be done but speed will come /
>your body should get use to the miles 1st
well yeah, i'm going to work up to it. was just wondering
how it was for a goal :)
- k i t z - "winners forget they're in a race. they just
love to run." -simon wilder
http://spinning_plates.tripod.com (http://spinning_plates.tripod.com/)
http://www.livejournal.com/users/kitznegari 28 more days
until my D1 test.
>Yeah, I'm with plodzilla. It seems like an ill-thought-out goal for someone
>who just started running regularly last week and runs 12:30 miles right now.
well he meant down the road as a distant goal, you know.
he didn't mean, like, tommorrow. i think he meant in a
few months.
>A 6-minute mile might not be impossible, but it's not
>something that you could probably do in one year, or
>even two.
oh wow. so nevermind then. hehe.
>That's really quite an accomplishment for a female
>"recreational" runner (especially if running is your
>"secondary" sport!)
i had no idea it was that much more difficult!! wow!
now i feel like he thinks really highly of me if he thinks
that i might someday be able to do that! :)
- k i t z - "winners forget they're in a race. they just
love to run." -simon wilder
http://spinning_plates.tripod.com (http://spinning_plates.tripod.com/)
http://www.livejournal.com/users/kitznegari 27 more days
until my D1 test.
>First off, URA punkass *****, only a pussy lies about
>their martial arts experience, secondly any punk can do a
>6 mm, even homos like Realbitchy and Freeze can do it (in
>their cars)..
and you are?
- k i t z - "winners forget they're in a race. they just
love to run." -simon wilder
http://spinning_plates.tripod.com (http://spinning_plates.tripod.com/)
http://www.livejournal.com/users/kitznegari 27 more days
until my D1 test.
>with all else is his sport MA 1st and running 2nd
i'm wondering now if he's set this goal for HIMSELF and
wants ME to motivate HIM by progressing along as he does.
:)
- k i t z - "winners forget they're in a race. they just
love to run." -simon wilder
http://spinning_plates.tripod.com (http://spinning_plates.tripod.com/)
http://www.livejournal.com/users/kitznegari 27 more days
until my D1 test.
kitznegari thinks it has wings wrote in message <20040509094143.29348.00000733@mb-
m25.aol.com>...
>>When do these goals have to be achieved?
>
>no specific time... i think he just wants me to try as hard
>as i can until
i'm
>there. (and it's working. i've been going like a maniac
>since he proposed
that
>we "go for a jog" one saturday, heh)
Training like a maniac is an oxymoron - training should be
controlled and carefully evaluated with attention to stress
on the body.
>
>>What is your current mile time?
>
>probably about 12 minutes. i'm slooooow right now :)
>
>>What is your fastest 400 meter time (once around a
>>400m track)?
>
>i've haven't the foggiest idea. haven't run on a track
>since high school.
>
>>What is your current training like?
>
>just started.
>
>>Do you have any other issues that could impede your
>>progress towards this goal, such as weight?
>
>weight isn't really a problem... i just generally need to
>get in better
shape.
>
>- k i t z - "winners forget they're in a race. they just
> love to run." -simon wilder
> http://spinning_plates.tripod.com (http://spinning_plates.tripod.com/)
>
>http://www.livejournal.com/users/kitznegari 28 more days
>until my D1 test.
"kitznegari thinks it has wings" <kitznegari@aol.com> wrote in
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> >Simple curiosity - what does he think is magical
> >about a 6
minute
> >mile?
>
> that's just the goal he set for me. nothing magical...
> it's just
a goal.
Then why not a 4 min mile? To say 6's when you are running
12's is a big stretch. He should set small goals like 11's
then 10's and then see what reasonable. Setting such a lofty
goal puts the carrot on a 20 mile stick.
--
Doug Freese "Caveat Lector" dfreese@NOBShvc.rr.com
(remove the NOBS)
kitznegari thinks it has wings wrote:
>>Yeah, I'm with plodzilla. It seems like an ill-thought-out
>>goal for someone who just started running regularly last
>>week and runs 12:30 miles right now.
>
>
> well he meant down the road as a distant goal, you know.
> he didn't mean, like, tommorrow. i think he meant in a
> few months.
Ahhh, "few months" is very short term goal in running - less
than a training cycle usually. "Distant goals" tend to be
multiple years.
>
>
>>A 6-minute mile might not be impossible, but it's not
>>something that you could probably do in one year, or
>>even two.
>
>
> oh wow. so nevermind then. hehe.
Just learn about training. Start slowly as you're doing.
The improvements will come. If you're just starting
running, the times will quickly improve, but you may hit
plateaus along the way.
>
>
>>That's really quite an accomplishment for a female
>>"recreational" runner (especially if running is your
>>"secondary" sport!)
>
>
> i had no idea it was that much more difficult!! wow!
>
> now i feel like he thinks really highly of me if he thinks
> that i might someday be able to do that! :)
Maybe he's setting up a long-term goal (multiple years) for
you. Not sure if your other achievements were done overnight
(relatively), and this is now a test of being able to handle
long term planning and goals. If he's really a serious
runner, I think he realizes that and *might* offer training
suggestions since he knows you better than any of us could
possibly know your abilities / needs. (Or he may have gone
through the school of hard knocks, and may not have a good
training plan ideas. Dunno.) This might be a test to see if
you just start blindly running hard or if you methodically
learn about training and set up intermediate goals.
Most important, learn your recovery rate and don't do too
much too soon, or you'll be back here with an injury report.
Although you may be in decent overall shape, if you haven't
been running, you'll be using muscles / tendons, etc in new
ways. Cardio is generally *not* the limiting factor for
newbies. I think the slowest adaptation is generally in the
tendons based on what I've read. That is, just because you
feel good and on a high, be aware that your tendons (and
muscles) may not be ready to go more until you've been doing
it for a while. Your MA may have you in some condition so
your adaptation might be a lot faster than some.
It's not an impossible goal (depending on your age, which I
can't remember), but learn to enjoy the journey of the
intermediate steps, as it looks like you are doing. You
might find you really enjoy longer runs as you develop
endurance.
Enjoy.
Dot
--
"Success is different things to different people" -Bernd
Heinrich in Racing the Antelope
I see that you are highly motivated. However, without
direction, your self- motivation could cause a problem,
particularly an injury due to over training. Pay close
attention to what Dot posted. The only thing I'd add is that
you should have a plan/program. There are some good books
available that will help you out. That, combined with
helpful responses in this newsgroup, will help you to
achieve your running goals.
Phil M.
--
If you can empty your own boat Crossing the river of the
world, No one will oppose you, No one will seek to harm you.
-Chuang Tzu
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