Camelbak Catalyst Revisted

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Rob

OK...So I did get a CamelBak Catalyst (28oz) The main
concerns I heard from most folk was it did have a small
capacity for running. Well I have only ran with it once but
I already know I am going to love having it.

Took it out this Sunday for my long run (12 miles).
Normally, I either have to carry a bottle (which I hate) or
stop half way to drink from a bottle stash them resume.

The camelbak rode great right from the beginning. I did sip
sparely along the whole route and did not really take alot
at any one time, but at the end I even had a few sips left
at the very end. Near the end of the run I even had to keep
checking to see if I had not dropped it, because it
literally felt like it was not there. I agree most people
would need more water for longer runs. It is probably
perfect for 5 to 8 milers. Which is probably the distance
most people run most of the time.

I am hooked. Now I am thinking about getting the Flashflo
for the longer runs as I train for the marathon this fall. I
will definitely be using my Catalyst a bunch this summer.

-Rob

Qtrader

I had a 40oz Ultimate Direction waist belt bladder that
worked well, but it bounced alot in the beginning until you
drank some from it. This was great for 2 1/2 to 3 hour runs,
but I got tired of wearing it and I tried those bottles you
carry in your hands and I like them alot better, especially
for trail runs where your upper body is not as steady. The
ones I have are 20oz each and for shorter runs of 60 to 90
mins in summer I carry one and for 2 to 3 hours I'll carry
two. In cooler temps I rarely carry anything if I'm going
under 100 mins.

- Tony

Rob wrote in message
<1098c990.0405100626.621be36a@posting.google.com>...
>OK...So I did get a CamelBak Catalyst (28oz) The main
>concerns I heard from most folk was it did have a small
>capacity for running. Well I have only ran with it once but
>I already know I am going to love having it.
>
>Took it out this Sunday for my long run (12 miles).
>Normally, I either have to carry a bottle (which I hate) or
>stop half way to drink from a bottle stash them resume.
>
>The camelbak rode great right from the beginning. I did sip
>sparely along the whole route and did not really take alot
>at any one time, but at the end I even had a few sips left
>at the very end. Near the end of the run I even had to keep
>checking to see if I had not dropped it, because it
>literally felt like it was not there. I agree most people
>would need more water for longer runs. It is probably
>perfect for 5 to 8 milers. Which is probably the distance
>most people run most of the time.
>
>I am hooked. Now I am thinking about getting the Flashflo
>for the longer runs as I train for the marathon this fall.
>I will definitely be using my Catalyst a bunch this summer.
>
>-Rob

Dan Stumpus

Rob:

I do 2-5 hour runs on the weekends in the mountains, and
here are my thoughts on various hydration methods:

If it's 2 hours or less, I use a two bottle fanny pack (20oz
or the long-neck 26 oz bottles, depending on how hot it is).

We ultra guys just reach back for the bottle and drink on
the fly. I usually drink 8 - 10 oz every 20-30 minutes.
It's easier to get big gulps out of a bottle, and you know
how much you're drinking. This is important when you're on
the road for 7+ hours in a longer race--dehydration can
sneak up on you.

On longer runs 3+, I use my 70 oz Camelback. It takes
longer to drink from, but holds more, a reasonable trade
off. With a camelback you have to suck it out rather than
just pour it into your mouth; it's a real lung buster to
drink from while racing.

Sometimes I add a 20 oz bottle in the back pouch, in hot
weather, for a total of 90 oz.

I find the Camelback rides more comfortably and feels more
balanced then a bottle pack.

--Dan

"Rob" <rlamb@duo-county.com> wrote in message
news:1098c990.0405100626.621be36a@posting.google.com...
> OK...So I did get a CamelBak Catalyst (28oz) The main
> concerns I heard from most folk was it did have a small
> capacity for running. Well I have only ran with it once
> but I already know I am going to love having it.
>
> Took it out this Sunday for my long run (12 miles).
> Normally, I either have to carry a bottle (which I hate)
> or stop half way to drink from a bottle stash them resume.
>
> The camelbak rode great right from the beginning. I did
> sip sparely along the whole route and did not really take
> alot at any one time, but at the end I even had a few sips
> left at the very end. Near the end of the run I even had
> to keep checking to see if I had not dropped it, because
> it literally felt like it was not there. I agree most
> people would need more water for longer runs. It is
> probably perfect for 5 to 8 milers. Which is probably the
> distance most people run most of the time.
>
> I am hooked. Now I am thinking about getting the
> Flashflo for the longer runs as I train for the marathon
> this fall. I will definitely be using my Catalyst a
> bunch this summer.
>
> -Rob

Phil

Rob

If you put anything in it besides water be sure to clean it
well after each use. I clean my CamelBak bladders with a
generous sloshing of hydrogen peroxide.

Regards

Phil

http://runners4bush2004.rantweb.com (http://runners4bush2004.rantweb.com/)

politics/US/bush_kerry_likeability_poll_040502.html?CMP=OTC-
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Playing Favorites Voters Find Bush More Compassionate,
Compatible, Likeable than Kerry

Analysis By Dalia Sussman

May 2— George W. Bush has an edge on John Kerry on the
personal attributes of compassion, values and likeability,
another reason Bush has improved his overall position
against Kerry since the Democratic primaries.

Tim Downie

"Phil" <runners4bush2004@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:8bd8dc13.0405111315.c505f9c@posting.google.com...
> Rob
>
> If you put anything in it besides water be sure to clean
> it well after each use. I clean my CamelBak bladders with
> a generous sloshing of hydrogen peroxide.
>
> Regards
>
> Phil
>

Still posting that sig I see...

Tim

http://www.thousandreasons.org/listB.html

.?.

"Tim Downie" <timdownie2003@obvious.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:<2ge3adF1g9jcU1@uni-berlin.de>...
>Still posting that sig I see...
>
> Tim
>
> http://www.thousandreasons.org/listB.html

While I seldom praise you, this time you deserve a HUGE wet
kiss, for posting that link, the BEST EVER link I've ever
seen on line!. Thank you Tim.

Doug Freese

".?." <dabillrodgers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:81f3ac39.0405120638.5a2da881@posting.google.com...
> "Tim Downie" <timdownie2003@obvious.yahoo.co.uk> wrote
> in message
news:<2ge3adF1g9jcU1@uni-berlin.de>...
> >Still posting that sig I see...
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > http://www.thousandreasons.org/listB.html
>
>
> While I seldom praise you, this time you deserve a HUGE
> wet kiss,
for
> posting that link, the BEST EVER link I've ever seen
> on line!.
Thank
> you Tim.

And posted by a Brit, amazing. And we wonder why we look
like buffoons by the rest of the world. Reminds me of those
locked in the funny farms thinking they are right and the
world is wrong. Gotta love our egocentric administration
always pointing the inept finger at the "other" guy. When
you surround yourself with incompetence you get incompetent
behavior - duh!

--
Doug Freese
dfreese@NOBShvc.rr.com
(Remove the NOBS)

Mwl

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runners4bush2004@netzero.com (Phil) wrote in message news:<8bd8dc13.0405111315.c505f9c@posting.google.com>...
> Rob
>
> If you put anything in it besides water be sure to clean
> it well after each use. I clean my CamelBak bladders with
> a generous sloshing of hydrogen peroxide.
>
> Regards
>
> Phil
>
> http://runners4bush2004.rantweb.com (http://runners4bush2004.rantweb.com/)
>

YEAH!!! SUPPORT OUR TROOPS. Especially Lyndie England whose
so brave and compassionate just like this:

http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/iraqis_tortured/

Just like your god, ie, your leader.

WARNING: only for mature audience.

MWL
-----------------------

www.runagainstbush.com

> litics/US/bush_kerry_likeability_poll_040502.html?CMP=OTC-
> RSSFeeds0312
>
> Playing Favorites Voters Find Bush More Compassionate,
> Compatible, Likeable than Kerry
>
> Analysis By Dalia Sussman
>
> May 2? George W. Bush has an edge on John Kerry on the
> personal attributes of compassion, values and likeability,
> another reason Bush has improved his overall position
> against Kerry since the Democratic primaries.

Dieshooter

On the topic of cleaning Camelbaks and equivalents .. you
can pay top dollar for one of their custome cleaning rods (a
long metal thing with bristles) or you can save a bundle by
buying a gun cleaning kit .. i picked one up at walmart for
$3 and it works great for scraping the mold out of the
drinking tube (esp. after using Gatorade or other stuff like
that) .. you can also use Scope mouthwash to disinfect the
mouthpiece (I used Listerine once .. and only once. Nothing
like tasting that awful stuff for 20 miles!

And Phil, from Runners4bush .. hmm, must be a Citadel man!

!

Dieshooter

Dot

Dan Stumpus wrote:

> With a camelback you have to suck it out rather than just
> pour it into your mouth; it's a real lung buster to drink
> from while racing.

Does yours have one of those right-angle locks? or the old
straight-thru? I just got a new one a little while ago with
that right-angle thingie, and had lots of trouble getting
fluid out also. Switched my old straight-thru with the new,
and it works just fine now. I usually use a winterized one
which doesn't have a lock and is straight-thru. Right angles
would be miserable in winter up here.

I was on the lookout for that type thing after your post,
since I find it much easier to get fluid from my cb rather
than water bottle, but I tend to suck from water bottle so
I can keep eye on trail. I also tend to gag if pouring
water in mouth, so abandoned that approach early on ;)
Bottles freeze more up here also. In winter, I usually do
about 5 sips of cb every 10-15 min (or fewer sips if
drinking more frequently), but need about 7 with bottle - 2
extra sips to satisfy thirst because of the extra work with
bottle for me ;)

And yes, hr does increase while drinking.

Dot

--
"Success is different things to different people" -Bernd
Heinrich in Racing the Antelope

Phil M.

dieshooter@hotmail.com (dieshooter) wrote in
news:ae4b0a63.0405240701.19d2554c@posting.google.com:

> On the topic of cleaning Camelbaks and equivalents .. you
> can pay top dollar for one of their custome cleaning rods
> (a long metal thing with bristles) or you can save a
> bundle by buying a gun cleaning kit .. i picked one up at
> walmart for $3 and it works great for scraping the mold
> out of the drinking tube (esp. after using Gatorade or
> other stuff like that) .. you can also use Scope
> mouthwash to disinfect the mouthpiece (I used Listerine
> once .. and only once. Nothing like tasting that awful
> stuff for 20 miles!

Good idea. I am/was a trumpet player. I have various
cleaning tools that clean inside the tubing of a trumpet. It
also works well on the CamelBak.

Phil M.

--
"I gotta go. You're killin' me."

Anal Traveler

I once dated a camelback, but I don't EVER want to
revisit her.

Phil

"Tim Downie" <timdownie2003@obvious.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:<2ge3adF1g9jcU1@uni-berlin.de>...
> --snip -- Still posting that sig I see...
>
> Tim
>
> --snip--

Maybe you like this sig more betterer. ( I know Chase
grammer, I was computer major not English major - good
luck at WP )

http://runners4bush2004.rantweb.com (http://runners4bush2004.rantweb.com/)

"History is moving, and it will tend toward hope, or tend
toward tragedy. Our terrorist enemies have a vision that
guides and explains all their varied acts of murder…"

"Our actions, too, are guided by a vision. We believe that
freedom can advance and change lives in the Greater Middle
East, as it has advanced and changed lives in Asia, and
Latin America, and Eastern Europe, and Africa…"

"These two visions have now met in Iraq, and are contending
for the future of that country…"

"We will persevere, and defeat this enemy, and hold this hard-
won ground for the realm of liberty."