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Now, I know this isn't going to supprise anyone here...
but I thought I might as well share with you.
My eldest nephew recntly joined the Met. and is currenlty
living in a hovel^H^H^H^ bijou residence in tooting. Last
night I stayed at said dwelling and towards the end of the
evening his partner went and got her bike out of the shed
ready for the trip to work this morning. I made some
throwaway comment about ho he should arrester had as she had
LED lights font and back, and not a kite mark to be seen.
This suppriesed him as this week he's on a course learning
roat traffic laws. He said that the had covered laws for
motor cars, motor bike, psvs, hgvs trailer etc. but NOTHING
on the humble bicycle other than a humeruos comment fro the
instructor about peddling furiously. So folks, thats why you
don't get arrested for wrong lights, plod doesn't know they
are illigal.
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.paul
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the sport for you.
>made some throwaway comment about ho he should arrester
>had as she had LED lights font and back, and not a kite
>mark to be seen.
Don't assume LED lights aren't legal. Quite a few are these
days.For example, Cateye HL-EL300 Front LED Light is British
Standard as is Cateye TL-AU100 BS Rear LED
But the rest of the stuff does not surprise me one jot. And
as plod seems to not be bothered about cars with illegal
lighting, illegal number plates etc., etc.., I think the
danger/illegality of pedal cycles comes way down the line.
Cheers, helen s
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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers wrote:
> Don't assume LED lights aren't legal. Quite a few are
> these days.For example, Cateye HL-EL300 Front LED Light is
> British Standard as is Cateye TL-AU100 BS Rear LED
IIRC they meet BS6102/3 but are still technically illegal
because the law still refers to an old BS which requires a
filament-type bulb.
Zog The Undeniable wrote:
> dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers wrote:
>
>> Don't assume LED lights aren't legal. Quite a few are
>> these days.For example, Cateye HL-EL300 Front LED Light
>> is British Standard as is Cateye TL-AU100 BS Rear LED
>
> IIRC they meet BS6102/3 but are still technically illegal
> because the law still refers to an old BS which requires a
> filament-type bulb.
Correct but it also allows them if they are legal in other
EU countries. There is probably enough uncertaintly on the
status of LED lights that the police/CPS probably don't want
to go there.
Tony
paul wrote:
> So folks, thats why you don't get arrested for wrong
> lights, plod doesn't know they are illigal.
my nearest main town (8 miles) has just got its first fully
equipped cycling PC since the days of Dixon of Dock Green.
I saw him for the first time on Thursday cycling up through
a pedestrianised area. he went striaght past the No Vehicles
and the Cyclists Dismount signs.
John B
paul wrote:
> but I thought I might as well share with you.
>
> My eldest nephew recntly joined the Met. and is currenlty
> living in a hovel^H^H^H^ bijou residence in tooting. Last
> night I stayed at said dwelling and towards the end of the
> evening his partner went and got her bike out of the shed
> ready for the trip to work this morning. I made some
> throwaway comment about ho he should arrester had as she
> had LED lights font and back, and not a kite mark to be
> seen. This suppriesed him as this week he's on a course
> learning roat traffic laws. He said that the had covered
> laws for motor cars, motor bike, psvs, hgvs trailer etc.
> but NOTHING on the humble bicycle other than a humeruos
> comment fro the instructor about peddling furiously. So
> folks, thats why you don't get arrested for wrong lights,
> plod doesn't know they are illigal.
be careful, the Newsgroup police might get you for 'furious
typing' or 'poor control of spelling'
Tony Raven wrote:
> Zog The Undeniable wrote:
>> dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers wrote:
>>
>>> Don't assume LED lights aren't legal. Quite a few are
>>> these days.For example, Cateye HL-EL300 Front LED Light
>>> is British Standard as is Cateye TL-AU100 BS Rear LED
>>
>> IIRC they meet BS6102/3 but are still technically illegal
>> because the law still refers to an old BS which requires
>> a filament-type bulb.
>
> Correct but it also allows them if they are legal in other
> EU countries. There is probably enough uncertaintly on the
> status of LED lights that the police/CPS probably don't
> want to go there.
So all we have to worry about are insurance company
bloodsuckers . . .
--
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singing hymns and arias"
JohnB wrote:
> paul wrote:
>
>
>>So folks, thats why you don't get arrested for wrong
>>lights, plod doesn't know they are illigal.
>
>
> my nearest main town (8 miles) has just got its first
> fully equipped cycling PC since the days of Dixon of
> Dock Green.
>
> I saw him for the first time on Thursday cycling up
> through a pedestrianised area. he went striaght past the
> No Vehicles and the Cyclists Dismount signs.
>
He's obviously a tough hard working cop who tells the suits
up at City Hall to swivel on their fat rears, he bends a few
rules here and there but he always gets his man ;-)
Sounds like a bad TV series.
"dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers" <wafflycathcs@aol.comcomcom> wrote in
message news:20040515023749.13517.00000539@mb-m06.aol.com...
> >made some throwaway comment about ho he should arrester
> >had as she had LED lights font and back, and not a kite
> >mark to be seen.
>
> Don't assume LED lights aren't legal. Quite a few are
> these days.For example, Cateye HL-EL300 Front LED Light is
> British Standard as is Cateye TL-AU100 BS Rear LED
Lights don't require a BS to be legal in the UK. They only
need to be legal under the standards of the country of
manufacture. It's all some EU thing that no normal citizen
of Yewkayistan would concern themselves with though.
--
Mark South Citizen of the World, Denizen of the Net <<Tiens!
Ce poulet a une grenade!
On Sat, 15 May 2004 23:09:45 +0200, "Mark South"
<mark.south@null.invalid> wrote (more or less):
>"dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers"
><wafflycathcs@aol.comcomcom> wrote in message news:20040515023749.13517.00000539@mb-
>m06.aol.com...
>> >made some throwaway comment about ho he should arrester
>> >had as she had LED lights font and back, and not a kite
>> >mark to be seen.
>>
>> Don't assume LED lights aren't legal. Quite a few are
>> these days.For example, Cateye HL-EL300 Front LED Light
>> is British Standard as is Cateye TL-AU100 BS Rear LED
>
>Lights don't require a BS to be legal in the UK. They only
>need to be legal under the standards of the country of
>manufacture. It's all some EU thing that no normal citizen
>of Yewkayistan would concern themselves with though.
Ah. I never knew this. Can you point us to the controlling
legislation or whatever it is that says it's okay in UK
law as long as it's okay by the manufacturer's
jurisdiction's law?
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JohnB nospam@here.com opined the following...
> I saw him for the first time on Thursday cycling up
> through a pedestrianised area. he went striaght past the
> No Vehicles and the Cyclists Dismount signs.
I thought everyone was aware. The laws of land apply to
everyone except plod. Are you going to attempt a citizens
arrest? I don't think so!
Jon
Gawnsoft wrote:
>
> Ah. I never knew this. Can you point us to the controlling
> legislation or whatever it is that says it's okay in UK
> law as long as it's okay by the manufacturer's
> jurisdiction's law?
Not quite - it has to be an EU manufacturer for that to
apply - common market and all that.
There is a good summary at
http://www.ctc.org.uk/bike/standards.aspx
Tony
On Sat, 15 May 2004 23:09:45 +0200, "Mark South"
<mark.south@null.invalid> wrote in message
<40a686f6$1_1@news.bluewin.ch>:
>Lights don't require a BS to be legal in the UK. They only
>need to be legal under the standards of the country of
>manufacture.
Provided the country of manufacture is within the EU. And
that is legal in the sense of legal under their road traffic
regulations, not a CE mark or whatever.
I buy Busch & Muller rear lights, which are approved to the
DIN standard and significantly exceed the required
performance of the British Standard.
And an approved lamp which has a flashing mode is only legal
when set to give a steady light. And IIRC it must be rigidly
fixed (which means some lights have to have an optional
bracket); I think that might come under Construction & Use.
It's all a bit of a minefield
IMO.
Guy
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In article <40A5F3A1.4080600@talk12.com>,
pete.whelan@talk12.com says...
>
>
> paul wrote:
> > but I thought I might as well share with you.
> >
>
> be careful, the Newsgroup police might get you for
> 'furious typing' or 'poor control of spelling'
>
>
Well Pete, as you knoe, I can't spell in the confines of the
intranet, so i've no chance out here in the BWW ;)
--
.paul
If at first you don't succeed... Skydiving is probably not
the sport for you
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