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David Waters
  
I have been using single sided shimano spd's and they have
been driving me nuts because the "non clip" side is always
the one on top. I have been told that Look pedals have float
which means the clippy in side is always up. How does this
work? Is it worth me shelling out 80squids for a pair of
Look's or not?

Dirtylitterboxo
  
>I have been using single sided shimano spd's and they have
>been driving me nuts because the "non clip" side is always
>the one on top. I have been told that Look pedals have
>float which means the clippy in side is always up. How does
>this work? Is it worth me shelling out 80squids for a pair
>of Look's or not?

Good grief! 80 squid! You can get them cheaper than that you
know. As an example Xpedia have Look PP 337s for £26.95 -
perhaps a better price to consider if you are wanting to
try, so to speak.

I use Look pedals - have never used any other form of
clipless and I don't have any problems clipping in or out.
Nathan uses Look and spds - he prefers Look - has them on
his TT bike and hsi road bike. The spds are on his MTB and
tourer, as the shoes he uses for those are ones he's more
likely to be needing to walk about in.

Cheers, helen s

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Just Zis Guy
  
On Sat, 15 May 2004 21:04:40 +0100, David Waters
<d.waters@student.umist.ac.uk> wrote in message
<c85t6g$1ukl$2@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk>:

>I have been using single sided shimano spd's and they have
>been driving me nuts because the "non clip" side is always
>the one on top. I have been told that Look pedals have
>float which means the clippy in side is always up. How does
>this work? Is it worth me shelling out 80squids for a pair
>of Look's or not?

If that's your only reason, you'd be better off with an
ordinary pair od Spuds. Look pedals are good (IME) for long-
distance riding, because they reduce the incidence of
hotspots on the feet or numb cold toes; and for putting in
serious power (which is why the guys on the Tour used them
for so long). I love my Look pedals, but these days often
use Spuds, not least because of being a relative neophyte in
the recumbent-riding game; putting a foot down at a junction
is much more satisfactory if the foot says put ;-)

Guy
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Pete Biggs
  
David Waters wrote:
> I have been using single sided shimano spd's and they have
> been driving me nuts because the "non clip" side is always
> the one on top. I have been told that Look pedals have
> float which means the clippy in side is always up. How
> does this work?

That's not what "float" is but Look road pedals do always
point clippy side back when shoes are not on them because
of the way they are weighted. That's as good or better than
clippy side up as you scoop feet forwards into them. The
cleats engage easily yet very positively, with a lovely
loud click.

"Float" is the amount you can swivel foot before it
releases.

> Is it worth me shelling out 80squids for a pair of
> Look's or not?

Only 42 squids need shelling out for Look PP396, a very good
model, superior what you have for general road cycling, in
my opinion. Compatible shoes will be required and remember
that the cleats aren't recessed. It makes sense to have some
Kool Kovers for the cleats as well.

~PB

David Waters
  
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>
> If that's your only reason, you'd be better off with an
> ordinary pair od Spuds. Look pedals are good (IME) for
> long-distance riding, because they reduce the incidence
> of hotspots on the feet or numb cold toes; and for
> putting in serious power (which is why the guys on the
> Tour used them for so long). I love my Look pedals, but
> these days often use Spuds, not least because of being a
> relative neophyte in the recumbent-riding game; putting a
> foot down at a junction is much more satisfactory if the
> foot says put ;-)
>
> Guy
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> after posting. http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk (http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/)
>
> 88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at
> Washington University

Hmmmm. I have been toying with the idea of putting so good
MTB double sided spds on the road bike, but it hasn't
happened yet. The reason I am tempted with Look is because
my shoes are designed for Looks and I have been using an
adapter plate to make the m spd compatible.

The time Atacs look good as well.

Just Zis Guy
  
On Sat, 15 May 2004 21:20:51 +0100, David Waters
<d.waters@student.umist.ac.uk> wrote in message
<c85u4r$1vu0$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk>:

>Hmmmm. I have been toying with the idea of putting so good
>MTB double sided spds on the road bike, but it hasn't
>happened yet. The reason I am tempted with Look is because
>my shoes are designed for Looks and I have been using an
>adapter plate to make the m spd compatible.

My shoes take both kinds (you have two sets of screw plates,
one for spusds and one for Looks). Hummm.

If you walk lots, don't use Looks. No good for a shopping
bike. But I used Looks on my tourer/commuter for years, they
were my first clipless pedals, and I got on with them
straight away and still prefer them. The foot goes in
easier, it's harder to miss the clip, and you can choose
float or no float. You can also really hoof it with almost
no risk of pull-out unless your cleats are knackered.

I usually say that if I wanted to walk I wouldn't have
brought the bike; these days I do a mixed-mode commute, and
station concourses are definitely not Look-friendly. You can
use Kool Covers, of course, but that's additional faff and
would eat into the precious seconds wich make the difference
between catching or missing my preferred train.

Guy
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Call Me Bob
  
On Sat, 15 May 2004 21:04:40 +0100, David Waters
<d.waters@student.umist.ac.uk> wrote:

>I have been using single sided shimano spd's and they have
>been driving me nuts because the "non clip" side is always
>the one on top. I have been told that Look pedals have
>float which means the clippy in side is always up. How does
>this work? Is it worth me shelling out 80squids for a pair
>of Look's or not?

Float has nothing to do with which side of the pedal usually
sits up. Float is the ability for your foot to swivel around
a vertical axis while clipped in. This is often a function
of the cleat as much as the pedal binding mechanism.

Most people need float so that their foot/ankle has a bit of
movement available through the pedal revolution.

One sided clipless pedals generally do hang with the
"clippy" side uppermost, but some models are better at this
than others. I haven't used Looks myself so can't really
offer advice on those, other than to confirm they are
highly regarded.

Perhaps you might want to consider double sided Shimano
SPD's? It may depend on your type of riding and style of
bike but you can buy perfectly good double sided Shimano
SPuDs for 20 quid. That way a clip mech is always facing
upwards and you can just stomp your foot down without
bothering to fiddle about flipping the pedal.
--

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Peter B
  
"David Waters" <d.waters@student.umist.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:c85t6g$1ukl$2@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk...
> I have been using single sided shimano spd's and they have
> been driving me nuts because the "non clip" side is always
> the one on top. I have been told that Look pedals have
> float which means the clippy in side is always up. How
> does this work? Is it worth me shelling out 80squids for a
> pair of Look's or not?

Not IMO. Instead shell out 25 squid for a pair of Shimano
M520 double sided mtb pedals.

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/viewproduct.asp?category-
=Pedals+Clipless&ModelID=3759

In the meantime I've just read your second post stating
you'd sooner have Looks in which case I'm sure you cann get
a pair for far less than £80. In fact www.wiggle.co.uk have
them for £40 up.

I used Looks for many years and found them great for
pedalling a bike and crap for walking so consider how much,
if any, walking you're going to do in them. I've also used
Shimano mtb spds for many years and love them. More recently
I bought some single sided Shimano A515 pedals and like you
find engagement crap, never again!
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Regards, Pete

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