Thank goodness he had that 11 cog

[Robert Chung]

http://www.velonews.com/diaries/rider/articles/6097.0.html

[Jeff Jones]

"Robert Chung" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> http://www.velonews.com/diaries/rider/articles/6097.0.html
>
Interesting that he was clocked at "only" 55 km/h coming
across the line too (according to the radar).

Jeff

[Bob Schwartz]

Jeff Jones <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote:

> "Robert Chung" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message news:2h0mb6F7kq85U1@uni-
> berlin.de...
>> http://www.velonews.com/diaries/rider/articles/6097-
>> .0.html
>>
> Interesting that he was clocked at "only" 55 km/h coming
> across the line too (according to the radar).

In a 54 X 11 you go 55 km/hr at 89 rpm. There are a lot of
shadows in the online video I get from La Gazzetta dello
Sport so you can't really get a sense of his cadence but
that's the correct cadence for a time trial, not a sprint.

So I am very skeptical that he was really in the 11.

Bob Schwartz cvcc@execpc.com

[Ewoud Dronkert]

On Wed, 19 May 2004 23:18:23 +1000, Jeff Jones wrote:
> Interesting that he was clocked at "only" 55 km/h coming
> across the line too (according to the radar).

89 rpm is good enough, isn't it?

[Richard Adams]

"Robert Chung" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<2h0mb6F7kq85U1@uni-berlin.de>...
> http://www.velonews.com/diaries/rider/articles/6097.0.html

The 11 I would have expected.

Thank goodness he had the stamina to drive the pedals that
far and hold off a charging Alessandro. Fred looked like he
was running on fumes as he hit the line. From the heli shot
you could see Petacchi riding Fred's wheel before trying to
come around. A hell of a sprint and executed to perfection.

[Brian Roth]

"Robert Chung" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<2h0mb6F7kq85U1@uni-berlin.de>...
> http://www.velonews.com/diaries/rider/articles/6097.0.html

I read the book "Tour de France" by Robin Magowan,
documenting the 1978 Tour. Some of the sprinters had a
secret weapon, a 12 tooth cog.

Freddy had a 54 tooth ring, to go with his 11.

[Gwhite]

Ewoud Dronkert <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<8ksma0djph9r20dnjj6if3qg6m1htaea8n@4ax.com>...
> On Wed, 19 May 2004 23:18:23 +1000, Jeff Jones wrote:
> > Interesting that he was clocked at "only" 55 km/h coming
> > across the line too (according to the radar).
>
> 89 rpm is good enough, isn't it?

Why not ask Koach Kunich? He'll know.

[Dave H]

"Bob Schwartz" <cvcc@shell.core.com> wrote in message
news:10ams03o1c6lud4@corp.supernews.com...
> Jeff Jones <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote:
>
> > "Robert Chung" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message news:2h0mb6F7kq85U1@uni-
> > berlin.de...
> >> http://www.velonews.com/diaries/rider/articles/6097.0-
> >> .html
> >>
> > Interesting that he was clocked at "only" 55 km/h coming
> > across the line
too
> > (according to the radar).
>
> In a 54 X 11 you go 55 km/hr at 89 rpm. There are a lot of
> shadows in the online video I get from La Gazzetta dello
> Sport so you can't really get a sense of his cadence but
> that's the correct cadence for a time trial, not a sprint.
>
> So I am very skeptical that he was really in the 11.
>
> Bob Schwartz cvcc@execpc.com

Freddy was sloggin that gear, head pumping, lots of body
movement, it was an uphill sprint too.

Dave

[Russ Baxter]

Bob Schwartz <cvcc@shell.core.com> wrote in message news:<10ams03o1c6lud4@corp.supernews.com>...
> Jeff Jones <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote:
>
> > "Robert Chung" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message news:2h0mb6F7kq85U1@uni-
> > berlin.de...
> >> http://www.velonews.com/diaries/rider/articles/6097.0-
> >> .html
> >>
> > Interesting that he was clocked at "only" 55 km/h coming
> > across the line too (according to the radar).
>
> In a 54 X 11 you go 55 km/hr at 89 rpm. There are a lot of
> shadows in the online video I get from La Gazzetta dello
> Sport so you can't really get a sense of his cadence but
> that's the correct cadence for a time trial, not a sprint.
>
> So I am very skeptical that he was really in the 11.
>
> Bob Schwartz cvcc@execpc.com

I'm not. Have you ever tried to turn a 54x11 uphill against
the wind? Seems to me the cadence would not be real high
with such a big gear under those conditions.

[Stewart Fleming]

Bob Schwartz wrote:

> In a 54 X 11 you go 55 km/hr at 89 rpm. There are a lot of
> shadows in the online video I get from La Gazzetta dello
> Sport so you can't really

They should have used fill-in flash.

[Bob Schwartz]

Russ Baxter <rbaxter1@mailandnews.com> wrote:
> Bob Schwartz <cvcc@shell.core.com> wrote in message
> news:<10ams03o1c6lud4@corp.supernews.com>...
>> Jeff Jones <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote:
>>
>> > "Robert Chung" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message news:2h0mb6F7kq85U1@uni-
>> > berlin.de...
>> >> http://www.velonews.com/diaries/rider/articles/6097.0-
>> >> .html
>> >>
>> > Interesting that he was clocked at "only" 55 km/h
>> > coming across the line too (according to the radar).
>>
>> In a 54 X 11 you go 55 km/hr at 89 rpm. There are a lot
>> of shadows in the online video I get from La Gazzetta
>> dello Sport so you can't really get a sense of his
>> cadence but that's the correct cadence for a time trial,
>> not a sprint.
>>
>> So I am very skeptical that he was really in the 11.
>>
>> Bob Schwartz cvcc@execpc.com

> I'm not. Have you ever tried to turn a 54x11 uphill
> against the wind? Seems to me the cadence would not be
> real high with such a big gear under those conditions.

My point is not that you would have to slog such a big gear
under those conditions. My point is that it is very unusual
to win a sprint by slogging a big gear.

I'm at a disadvantage in that we don't do cable so all I'm
going by is crappy web video. It is hard to make much out
because of the shadows. He does appear to be turning a
bigger gear than Petacchi.

Bob Schwartz cvcc@execpc.com

[Steve]

On 5/19/04 1:01 PM, in article 10anf8ohcjprv24@corp.supernews.com, "Bob
Schwartz" <cvcc@shell.core.com> wrote:

> Russ Baxter <rbaxter1@mailandnews.com> wrote:
>> Bob Schwartz <cvcc@shell.core.com> wrote in message
>> news:<10ams03o1c6lud4@corp.supernews.com>...
>>> Jeff Jones <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Robert Chung" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message news:2h0mb6F7kq85U1@uni-
>>>> berlin.de...
>>>>> http://www.velonews.com/diaries/rider/articles/6097.0-
>>>>> .html
>>>>>
>>>> Interesting that he was clocked at "only" 55 km/h
>>>> coming across the line too (according to the radar).
>>>
>>> In a 54 X 11 you go 55 km/hr at 89 rpm. There are a lot
>>> of shadows in the online video I get from La Gazzetta
>>> dello Sport so you can't really get a sense of his
>>> cadence but that's the correct cadence for a time trial,
>>> not a sprint.
>>>
>>> So I am very skeptical that he was really in the 11.
>>>
>>> Bob Schwartz cvcc@execpc.com
>
>
>> I'm not. Have you ever tried to turn a 54x11 uphill
>> against the wind? Seems to me the cadence would not be
>> real high with such a big gear under those conditions.
>
> My point is not that you would have to slog such a big
> gear under those conditions. My point is that it is very
> unusual to win a sprint by slogging a big gear.
>
> I'm at a disadvantage in that we don't do cable so all I'm
> going by is crappy web video. It is hard to make much out
> because of the shadows. He does appear to be turning a
> bigger gear than Petacchi.
>
> Bob Schwartz cvcc@execpc.com

You ALL must be kidding!! You are NUTZZ if you do not think
ALL in contention sprinters are not running an 11

[Jiyang Chen]

Fill in flash in a video? It would have to be a constant
flash that lasts for the duration of the sprint, and would
be so bright that the riders would be falling all over the
place (not necessarily a bad thing).

"Stewart Fleming" <stewart.fleming@paradise.net.nz> wrote in
message news:A4Pqc.3044$FN.323943@news02.tsnz.net...
>
>
> Bob Schwartz wrote:
>
> > In a 54 X 11 you go 55 km/hr at 89 rpm. There are a lot
> > of shadows
in
> > the online video I get from La Gazzetta dello Sport so
> > you can't
really
>
> They should have used fill-in flash.

[Tom Kunich]

"Bob Schwartz" <cvcc@shell.core.com> wrote in message
news:10anf8ohcjprv24@corp.supernews.com...
>
> My point is not that you would have to slog such a big
> gear under those conditions. My point is that it is very
> unusual to win a sprint by slogging a big gear.

I think that Fred held speed more than sprinted. For all of
Petacchi's rather rude remarks about Velo, I think that
Marco was doing a good job considering the conditions and
that they were on the front for so long.

[Bob Schwartz]

Steve <sdsteve@removesbcglobal.net> wrote:

> You ALL must be kidding!! You are NUTZZ if you do not
> think ALL in contention sprinters are not running an 11

Well, even from the crappy web video it's pretty clear that
Petacchi is running higher rpm than Fred. So if Fred was in
the 11 then Petacchi couldn't have been.

Bob Schwartz cvcc@execpc.com

[Rob Knell]

Ewoud Dronkert <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<8ksma0djph9r20dnjj6if3qg6m1htaea8n@4ax.com>...
> On Wed, 19 May 2004 23:18:23 +1000, Jeff Jones wrote:
> > Interesting that he was clocked at "only" 55 km/h coming
> > across the line too (according to the radar).
>
> 89 rpm is good enough, isn't it?

I have the sprint on video. There's a helicopter shot of the
last bit of the sprint. I counted 20 pedal strokes in 13.5
seconds: 88.9 rpm. I guess he was using that 54X11.

Rob