Ceramiche Panaria = Italian Euskaltel?

[Sonarrat]

Their jerseys are similar, their approach to GTs is similar,
and they just had a solo break decide the victory on a key
mountain stage...

-Sonarrat.

[Davide Tosi]

Sonarrat <mynick@nospam.hotmail> wrote:

>Their jerseys are similar, their approach to GTs is
>similar, and they just had a solo break decide the victory
>on a key mountain stage...

Except that while Euskaltel is bask and they only have bask
riders or riders with bask roots, Ceramiche Panaria is from
a zone (Western Emilia) that didn't produce a pro rider in
the last 15 years. Most of their riders are Aussies, Latin
Americans or southern Italians. The only main exception is
Sella himself, though he's a North Eastern, a few hundred
kms away from where his sponsor is from.

So, unlike Euskaltel, not exactly a team with a strong
geographic base.

[Sonarrat]

In article <40ae185f.134665259@news.individual.de>,
davide.tosi@comune.re.it (Davide Tosi) wrote:

> Sonarrat <mynick@nospam.hotmail> wrote:
>
> >Their jerseys are similar, their approach to GTs is
> >similar, and they just had a solo break decide the
> >victory on a key mountain stage...
>
> Except that while Euskaltel is bask and they only have
> bask riders or riders with bask roots, Ceramiche Panaria
> is from a zone (Western Emilia) that didn't produce a
> pro rider in the last 15 years. Most of their riders are
> Aussies, Latin Americans or southern Italians. The only
> main exception is Sella himself, though he's a North
> Eastern, a few hundred kms away from where his sponsor
> is from.
>
> So, unlike Euskaltel, not exactly a team with a strong
> geographic base.

True that. Actually, Pavel Tonkov was on Panaria when he won
the Giro d'Italia...

-Sonarrat.

[Faster Bordello]

bask and they only have bask riders or
> riders with bask roots,
bask to revel in or soak up or something similar, one
"basks" in glory or is seen to be "basking" in the light,
while ones heritage is Basque.

[Alex]

"Davide Tosi" <davide.tosi@comune.re.it> wrote in message
news:40ae185f.134665259@news.individual.de...
> Sonarrat <mynick@nospam.hotmail> wrote:
>
> >Their jerseys are similar, their approach to GTs is
> >similar, and they
just
> >had a solo break decide the victory on a key mountain
> >stage...
>
> Except that while Euskaltel is bask and they only have
> bask riders or riders with bask roots, Ceramiche Panaria
> is from a zone (Western Emilia) that didn't produce a
> pro rider in the last 15 years. Most of their riders are
> Aussies, Latin Americans or southern Italians. The only
> main exception is Sella himself, though he's a North
> Eastern, a few hundred kms away from where his sponsor
> is from.
>
> So, unlike Euskaltel, not exactly a team with a strong
> geographic base.
>

Just a small clarification. Euskaltel will also accept
in his ranks cyclists that developed in the basque
country in junior and amateur teams even if they do not
consider themselves basque. This is currently the case
of Samuel Sanchez.

Following this principle some other big names could have
ridden for Euskaltel if they had wanted (or Euskaltel had
had enough cash). I am thinking about Roberto Heras
(amateur with Fortaleza and Orbea) or Oscar Freire (Ripolin
and Banaka).

Ciao, Alex.

[Stewart Fleming]

Faster Bordello wrote:
> bask and they only have bask riders or
>
>> riders with bask roots,
>
> bask to revel in or soak up or something similar, one
> "basks" in glory or is seen to be "basking" in the light,
> while ones heritage is Basque.

It's better if you cane get your SO to wear a basque.

[Brian Roth]

Sonarrat <sonarrat@stormloader.com> wrote in message news:<sonarrat-

.
>
> True that. Actually, Pavel Tonkov was on Panaria when he
> won the Giro d'Italia...
>
> -Sonarrat.

True, Panaria was the sponsor, but the two (Panaria) teams
have different histories. Tonkovs Panaria was a 1 year
sponsor replacement for Lampre, which then merged with
Mapei, and then broke off again to become todays Lampre.
Follow, Svorada's history to track the splits and merges.

The present day Panaria has roots in the perpetual Navagarre/Scrigno/Blue-
Storm teams of the 90's.

Other sponsors that have gotten in, out, and back in with
different orginizations are Mercatone Uno and Aqua e Sapone.

Blowhard mode off.........

[Sonarrat]

In article <ebf01652.0405211551.e186ff4@posting.google.com>,
brian_j_roth@yahoo.com (brian roth) wrote:

> Sonarrat <sonarrat@stormloader.com> wrote in message news:<sonarrat-
>
> .
> >
> > True that. Actually, Pavel Tonkov was on Panaria when he
> > won the Giro d'Italia...
>
> True, Panaria was the sponsor, but the two (Panaria) teams
> have different histories. Tonkovs Panaria was a 1 year
> sponsor replacement for Lampre, which then merged with
> Mapei, and then broke off again to become todays Lampre.
> Follow, Svorada's history to track the splits and merges.
>
> The present day Panaria has roots in the perpetual Navagarre/Scrigno/Blue-
> Storm teams of the 90's.
>
> Other sponsors that have gotten in, out, and back in
> with different orginizations are Mercatone Uno and Aqua
> e Sapone.
>
> Blowhard mode off.........

Ah, very interesting... thanks for the clarification. I
wasn't aware of any of this.

And while we're talking about sponsor alliances, how about
that Alessio-Bianchi alliance? I guess the celeste company
got a taste of success, and after the team management
collapsed, decided to support another team by proxy... it's
shame that it resulted in the most godawful ugly jersey in
the peloton, but the results have been quite good, I think.

-Sonarrat.