Was Lance palying head games?
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After reading today's Cyclingnews, I think he might just
have been doing a bit more work, and might just be in better
shape than we all thought. http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.-
php?id=news/2004/may04/may21news2 I wish that I thought Jan
was doing the same. Gotta wonder if Lance isn't going to go
for one more totally dominant performance just to make his
case, then go home and play with Sheryl. Bill C
Bill, It really isn't nice to go trolling. It's a sunny
Friday afternoon. Ride yer bike instead.
Brian "TritonRider" <tritonrider@aol.com> wrote in message
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> After reading today's Cyclingnews, I think he might just
> have been doing a
bit
> more work, and might just be in better shape than we all
> thought. http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2004-
> /may04/may21news2 I wish that I thought Jan was doing the
> same. Gotta wonder if Lance isn't going to go for one more
> totally dominant performance just to make his case, then
> go home and play with Sheryl. Bill C
>From: "B. Lafferty" Magni@Italia.com
>Bill, It really isn't nice to go trolling. It's a sunny
>Friday afternoon. Ride yer bike instead.
>
If I was just trolling I would've thrown in the rumor that
I just made up that Lance is going to get a $100K bonus for
every minute he finishes up on GC. The new sponsor has put
incentives for the whole team on the table. Bill C
>From: "B. Lafferty" Magni@Italia.com
>Bill, It really isn't nice to go trolling. It's a sunny
>Friday afternoon. Ride yer bike instead.
>
If I was just trolling I would've thrown in the rumor that
I just made up that Lance is going to get a $100K bonus for
every minute he finishes up on GC. The new sponsor has put
incentives for the whole team on the table. Bill C
"TritonRider" <tritonrider@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >From: "B. Lafferty" Magni@Italia.com
>
> >Bill, It really isn't nice to go trolling. It's a sunny
> >Friday afternoon. Ride yer bike instead.
> >
>
> If I was just trolling I would've thrown in the rumor
> that I just made up
that
> Lance is going to get a $100K bonus for every minute he
> finishes up on GC.
The
> new sponsor has put incentives for the whole team on the
> table. Bill C
OK. You're not just trolling, you're trolling+ You should
still get out for a ride!
"TritonRider" <tritonrider@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >From: "B. Lafferty" Magni@Italia.com
>
> >Bill, It really isn't nice to go trolling. It's a sunny
> >Friday afternoon. Ride yer bike instead.
> >
>
> If I was just trolling I would've thrown in the rumor
> that I just made up
that
> Lance is going to get a $100K bonus for every minute he
> finishes up on GC.
The
> new sponsor has put incentives for the whole team on the
> table. Bill C
OK. You're not just trolling, you're trolling+ You should
still get out for a ride!
"TritonRider" <tritonrider@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >From: "B. Lafferty" Magni@Italia.com
>
> >Bill, It really isn't nice to go trolling. It's a sunny
> >Friday afternoon. Ride yer bike instead.
> >
>
> If I was just trolling I would've thrown in the rumor
> that I just made up
that
> Lance is going to get a $100K bonus for every minute he
> finishes up on GC.
The
> new sponsor has put incentives for the whole team on the
> table. Bill C
If you're bored we could talk about womens cycling. I
wonder why Go Finland didn't race in the Tour de L'Aude
after CN reported that Luperini was favored to make a big
effort there?
"TritonRider" <tritonrider@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >From: "Sierraman" riposa@sti.net Date: 5/21/2004 6:00 PM
> >Eastern
>
> >If you're bored we could talk about womens cycling. I
> >wonder why Go
Finland
> >didn't race in the Tour de L'Aude after CN reported that
> >Luperini was favored to make a big effort there?
> >
> >
>
> I don't have to be bored to talk women's cycling. Any
> excuse is a good
one. If
> you haven't noticed I'm the Lyne Bessette cheering
> section. Considering
the the
> hassles she's had and the strength of the team 5th,
> currently, is pretty
damn
> good. Dede is having a great race too. Someday someone
> will get a really
good
> picture of her. A couple of years ago at a race she wasn't
> racing, she was
in a
> black dress, sitting on a stone wall, just looking so
> exotic and Euro,
reading
>a book. I don't think she was trying to create an "image",
> but it worked.
>Gotta wonder if Jeanson will ever reach this level, as long
> as she stays
with
> Rona, I'd doubt it, and if she isn't with them I'm not
> sure how she does without the handlers.
Who cares. Rebecca Twig is still looking great. If she rides
masters track, I'll pay to see her in Lycra again and start
following women's racing in depth. Did you get out for a
ride, or are you just sitting there, bored and horny,
thinking about women's racing? God, I'm bored, too.
"TritonRider" <tritonrider@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >From: "Sierraman" riposa@sti.net Date: 5/21/2004 6:00 PM
> >Eastern
>
> >If you're bored we could talk about womens cycling. I
> >wonder why Go
Finland
> >didn't race in the Tour de L'Aude after CN reported that
> >Luperini was favored to make a big effort there?
> >
> >
>
> I don't have to be bored to talk women's cycling. Any
> excuse is a good
one. If
> you haven't noticed I'm the Lyne Bessette cheering
> section. Considering
the the
> hassles she's had and the strength of the team 5th,
> currently, is pretty
damn
> good.
Bessette is very consistent, IMO, she is in the top 5 riders
in the world, if I stop to think a little I might have to
bump her down to the top ten but she is like I said, very
consistent at giving great results in just about anything
she enters. However last year in the worlds she failed
miseably in both the TT and the road. In her interview she
couldn't account for the bad results except that she did her
best. She was coming off a broken collarbone.
Dede is having a great race too. Someday someone will get a
really good
> picture of her.
Yeah, Dede is hot, but don't look too close or you might
notice her twisted buckteeth, which she needs to take some
of her race earnings and head to the specialists for either
train tracks or some vaneers.
A couple of years ago at a race she wasn't racing, she was
in a
> black dress, sitting on a stone wall, just looking so
> exotic and Euro,
reading
> a book. I don't think she was trying to create an "image",
> but it worked.
I saw a photo of Bessettes from last years race, not sure
which summer classic, but on the podium she was wearing
something that looked like when girls wrap towels around
their waist on the beach. Kind of odd.
> Gotta wonder if Jeanson will ever reach this level, as
> long as she stays
with
> Rona, I'd doubt it, and if she isn't with them I'm not
> sure how she does without the handlers.
Jeanson is a no go this year, and if she fails at the games,
she could end up with a zero year. Actually her bad luck
started last year at the worlds and she hasn't produced any
results since.
> Not sure about Luperini but 3 T-Mobiles in the top 6 is a
> pretty damn
good.
> Go Lyne
Yup, USA three out of top 4 in Tour de L'Aude. Luperini won
the Tour De Berne this year a short while back.
BTW, CBC did a great job of the worlds last year, 11 hours
of coverage is pretty good. Only downfall was when the
sprint came for the mens road race, after the spainish guy
won, they kept the camera on him, and missed the sprint for
2nd, 3th, and 4th and so on. What a idiot that cameraman
was. What a blunder. I guess he's looking for another job.
> Bill C
"Sierraman" <riposa@sti.net> wrote in message
>
> BTW, CBC did a great job of the worlds last year, 11 hours
> of coverage is pretty good. Only downfall was when the
> sprint came for the mens road
race,
> after the spainish guy won, they kept the camera on him,
> and missed the sprint for 2nd, 3th, and 4th and so on.
> What a idiot that cameraman was. What a blunder. I guess
> he's looking for another job.
>
Why blame the cameraman? Why not have more than one
camera at the finish of the biggest bike race in Canada
in 27 years?
"Carl Sundquist" <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Sierraman" <riposa@sti.net> wrote in message
> >
> > BTW, CBC did a great job of the worlds last year, 11
> > hours of coverage
is
> > pretty good. Only downfall was when the sprint came for
> > the mens road
> race,
> > after the spainish guy won, they kept the camera on him,
> > and missed the sprint for 2nd, 3th, and 4th and so on.
> > What a idiot that cameraman was. What a blunder. I guess
> > he's looking for another job.
> >
>
> Why blame the cameraman? Why not have more than one camera
> at the finish
of
> the biggest bike race in Canada in 27 years?
Well, It seems what I got was from edited edition as
interviews with Jeanson and Bessette were mixed in. If
edited then maybe there was better footage that wasn't
included in the final cut. Regardless what happened was
unfortunate. Actually what happened was the cameraman had
the camera on the spanish winner, and I guess he wasn't
really on top of the action because he turned the camera
back too late to really catch the sprint for the other
places. They never did replay a nice follow through on the
sprint for the other finishers. If that was original edited
version, it sucked compared to the womens finish. In the
womens coverage of the road race the CBC dropped the ball
and missed airing the first few laps of the womens road race
but when it came to the finish it was extremely well done.
They replayed it over and over, at different angles with
photo finish and more. You couldn't of asked for more, but
when it came to the mens road race they dropped the ball
right at the end. Another point is if they used cameramen
that have covered other Pro cycling races or were the
cameramen new to covering cycling races but in view of what
happened in the womens race, maybe the mens race was botched
in the editing room. I blame the cameraman based on what I
saw him do with the camera. It was a blunder, but like you
say if there were other angles of the footage, it's too bad
it didn't make the final cut for airtime or reruns.
The final of the Womens race was one of most exciting race
finishes I have ever seen. Longo broke away early and stayed
out and extended her lead. Finally Cooke panicked and took
up the chase. When Cooke tired she became angry when others
wouldn't take up the chase. Things were chaotic because all
the girls would't work together in the chase. This added to
Longos lead. Finally Melchers took up the chase, and twice
she lead the charge up the climbs cutting lead down. Again
Cooke took the lead and then finally again Melchers. The
five girls in the break were going balls to the walls,
Melchers, Lungskog, Cooke, Olga, Rasa I think. They caught
Longo at the final corner. Longo gave it all she has, she
was flying but it wasn't enough as the Top girls were too
strong. Coming out of the Corner Melchers started the sprint
early and only Lungskog could catch her. Cooke was unable to
catch up. At the last moment Lunkskog lunged over towards
Melchers and caught her wheel briefly before powering
forward at the last instance to beat Melchers. Like last
year I understand Melchers filed a protest as it seems
Lungskog and Melchers always seems to be joined at the hip
at the finish.
Anyway, here's the clip! This is cool finish!
10 megs
http://216.219.161.193/temp/Worlds-2003-End-Sprint.mpg
"TritonRider" <tritonrider@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >From: "Sierraman" riposa@sti.net Date: 5/21/2004 6:00 PM
> >Eastern
>
> >If you're bored we could talk about womens cycling. I
> >wonder why Go
Finland
> >didn't race in the Tour de L'Aude after CN reported that
> >Luperini was favored to make a big effort there?
> >
> >
>
> I don't have to be bored to talk women's cycling. Any
> excuse is a good
one. If
> you haven't noticed I'm the Lyne Bessette cheering
> section. Considering
the the
> hassles she's had and the strength of the team 5th,
> currently, is pretty
damn
> good. Dede is having a great race too. Someday someone
> will get a really
good
> picture of her. A couple of years ago at a race she wasn't
> racing, she was
in a
> black dress, sitting on a stone wall, just looking so
> exotic and Euro,
reading
>a book. I don't think she was trying to create an "image",
> but it worked.
>Gotta wonder if Jeanson will ever reach this level, as long
> as she stays
with
> Rona, I'd doubt it, and if she isn't with them I'm not
> sure how she does without the handlers. Not sure about
> Luperini but 3 T-Mobiles in the top 6 is a pretty damn
good.
> Go Lyne
> Bill C
Here's a photo of Bessette contesting the sprint with
Luperini in the Tour De Berne.
http://www.timjohnson.net/ontheroad/2004/files/lyne3may04/l-
yss_sprint.jpg
http://www.timjohnson.net/ontheroad/2004/may3lyne.html
"TritonRider" <tritonrider@aol.com> wrote in message
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> After reading today's Cyclingnews, I think he might just
> have been doing a
bit
> more work, and might just be in better shape than we all
> thought. http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2004-
> /may04/may21news2 I wish that I thought Jan was doing the
> same. Gotta wonder if Lance isn't going to go for one more
> totally dominant performance just to make his case, then
> go home and play with Sheryl.
Here's a clue Bill - he beat Chris Horner on Bald Mountain.
If that didn't tell you something about his condition I
don't know what would.
"TritonRider" <tritonrider@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040521160835.12062.00001991@mb-m02.aol.com...
> After reading today's Cyclingnews, I think he might just
> have been doing a
bit
> more work, and might just be in better shape than we all
> thought. http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2004-
> /may04/may21news2 I wish that I thought Jan was doing the
> same. Gotta wonder if Lance isn't going to go for one more
> totally dominant performance just to make his case, then
> go home and play with Sheryl. Bill C
He sure looks in shape on "The Lance Chronicles". Looks
like sub 6% bodyfat, anyway. Can't say that for the Strudel
King, Jan.
"Gooserider" <gooserider@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
>
> He sure looks in shape on "The Lance Chronicles". Looks
> like sub 6%
bodyfat,
> anyway. Can't say that for the Strudel King, Jan.
>
Judging by looks can be deceiving.
First, probably at least 70% of the peloton is sub 6%
bodyfat.
Second, if the skinfold/caliper method is used, your bodyfat
is not directly related to the measurements. (Going into Al
Bundy mode) 10 years ago when I was on the US pursuit team
and we had a month long training camp in Australia, by the
end of the camp I had the lowest sum of skin thickness by
measuring 7 sites. However, when factoring in age I was only
mid pack because I was the oldest (about 12 years older than
a couple of they other guys). Supposedly more fat is
attached to your organs as you get older. I don't know if
the tables are specifically for endurance athletes or just
the general population, though.
Carl Sundquist wrote:
> "Gooserider" <gooserider@mouse-potato.com> wrote in
> message
>>
>> He sure looks in shape on "The Lance Chronicles". Looks
>> like sub 6% bodyfat, anyway. Can't say that for the
>> Strudel King, Jan.
>
> Judging by looks can be deceiving.
Perhaps I'm being deceived but at the Tour Formerly Known As
The Midi Libre LANCE is looking kinda sleek if you know what
I mean and I'm sure that you do.
Sierraman wrote:
>
> Yeah, Dede is hot, but don't look too close or you might
> notice her twisted buckteeth, which she needs to take some
> of her race earnings and head to the specialists for
> either train tracks or some vaneers.
Yeah, but she could make it work for her, like the
actor Steve Buscemi.
Steve
>
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"Robert Chung" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Carl Sundquist wrote:
> > "Gooserider" <gooserider@mouse-potato.com> wrote in
> > message
> >>
> >> He sure looks in shape on "The Lance Chronicles". Looks
> >> like sub 6% bodyfat, anyway. Can't say that for the
> >> Strudel King, Jan.
> >
> > Judging by looks can be deceiving.
>
> Perhaps I'm being deceived but at the Tour Formerly Known
> As The Midi Libre LANCE is looking kinda sleek if you know
> what I mean and I'm sure that you do.
Well, Mick Jagger still looks sleek. It's not the package,
but the aging process inside that will matter the most come
July. Still an open question.
"Carl Sundquist" <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote in message
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>
> Supposedly more fat is attached to your organs as you get
> older. I don't know if the tables are specifically for
> endurance athletes or just
the
> general population, though.
Are you trying to tell us about your fat head?
"TritonRider" <tritonrider@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040521160835.12062.00001991@mb-m02.aol.com...
> After reading today's Cyclingnews, I think he might just
> have been doing a
bit
> more work, and might just be in better shape than we all
> thought. http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2004-
> /may04/may21news2
Yes, he really does look fantastic. I just hope he is not
the same dominate force that he has been in the past. It's
like the Lakers. It's not much fun watching them squash
everyone during the playoffs.
> I wish that I thought Jan was doing the same.
Yes, I hope Jan proves to be a worthy adversary (read:
near nemesis) to Lance this year. I wouldn't mind
watching another 2003 Tour unfold this year. I have a
feeling that Lance is going to crush everyone under his
SPD-SL cleats, tho.
> Gotta wonder if Lance isn't going to go for one more
> totally dominant performance just to make his case, then
> go home and play with Sheryl. Bill C
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