5/22/04: a few other stories
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We've all heard by now of the Ukraine double in the Giro,
with Serhiy Honchar winning the ITT and Yaroslav Popovych
taking third, simultaneously taking the Maglia Rosa by 3
seconds over Honchar. And we've all heard about Stage 4b of
the Tour of Belgium being cancelled in the wake of a major
crash, apparently taking an American race of a month ago as
a precedent. Perhaps you cared about the re-emergence of
Moreau and the continued strength of elder statesman
Ekimov, perhaps you didn't. Here are a few other things
I've kept my eye on...
Santiago Botero is actually hanging tough, much better than
I thought based on the first two days of the Bayern
Rundfahrt. The past two stages have been peppered with lots
of climbs, six Cat. 1's in all, and he stayed with the
peloton, avoiding enormous splits. I would upgrade him from
a thumbs-down to a question mark at this point, to put it in
rough inhumane terms.
Looking at the two teams classificiations for the Giro
d'Italia, I'm quite surprised to see that Alessio-Bianchi is
leading both of them - the Trofeo Fast Team (aggregate time)
and Trofeo Super Team (cumulative points). But there it is,
plain as day, even though no Alessio rider has yet won
anything in this Giro - be it a stage, an Intergiro sprint,
or a mountain climb. But with the combined talents of Andrea
Noe', Christian Moreni, Magnus Backstedt (whose Velonews
blog is a joy to read), Angelo Furlan, and a very strong
Franco Pellizotti, it certainly hasn't been for lack of
trying. This is just solid, dogged tenacity at work and I
think it may pay off big by the end of this race.
-Sonarrat.
What to think of Cadel Evans HD at L-R?
"Sonarrat" <sonarrat@stormloader.com> wrote in message news:sonarrat-
FA6B1E.17091622052004@corp.supernews.com...
> We've all heard by now of the Ukraine double in the Giro,
> with Serhiy Honchar winning the ITT and Yaroslav Popovych
> taking third, simultaneously taking the Maglia Rosa by 3
> seconds over Honchar. And we've all heard about Stage 4b
> of the Tour of Belgium being cancelled in the wake of a
> major crash, apparently taking an American race of a month
> ago as a precedent. Perhaps you cared about the re-
> emergence of Moreau and the continued strength of elder
> statesman Ekimov, perhaps you didn't. Here are a few other
> things I've kept my eye on...
>
> Santiago Botero is actually hanging tough, much better
> than I thought based on the first two days of the Bayern
> Rundfahrt. The past two stages have been peppered with
> lots of climbs, six Cat. 1's in all, and he stayed with
> the peloton, avoiding enormous splits. I would upgrade him
> from a thumbs-down to a question mark at this point, to
> put it in rough inhumane terms.
>
> Looking at the two teams classificiations for the Giro
> d'Italia, I'm quite surprised to see that Alessio-Bianchi
> is leading both of them - the Trofeo Fast Team (aggregate
> time) and Trofeo Super Team (cumulative points). But
> there it is, plain as day, even though no Alessio rider
> has yet won anything in this Giro - be it a stage, an
> Intergiro sprint, or a mountain climb. But with the
> combined talents of Andrea Noe', Christian Moreni, Magnus
> Backstedt (whose Velonews blog is a joy to read), Angelo
> Furlan, and a very strong Franco Pellizotti, it certainly
> hasn't been for lack of trying. This is just solid,
> dogged tenacity at work and I think it may pay off big by
> the end of this race.
>
> -Sonarrat.
In article <c8pgdf$4ta$1@news-reader5.wanadoo.fr>,
"matabala" <matabala@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> What to think of Cadel Evans HD at L-R?
It's not clear what happened to him, but personally, I
prefer to see a rider go Hors Delai having done the course
and having crossed the finish line, rather than dropping out
mid-stage. It's a matter of professionalism and dedication.
David Millar DNF'ed today, and that makes me a little
worried...
I think there was something not right about the T-Mobile
presence in this race from the beginning. I noticed that on
the first stage, there was a group of 5 that finished more
than 16 minutes down and there were three T-Mobiles in it
(not Evans)... I think there might have been a contagious
illness in the team which just happened to hit Cadel
particularly hard today.
-Sonarrat.
Sonarrat wrote:
> In article <c8pgdf$4ta$1@news-reader5.wanadoo.fr>,
> "matabala" <matabala@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>
>
>>What to think of Cadel Evans HD at L-R?
>
>
> It's not clear what happened to him, but personally, I
> prefer to see a rider go Hors Delai having done the course
> and having crossed the finish line, rather than dropping
> out mid-stage. It's a matter of professionalism and
> dedication. David Millar DNF'ed today, and that makes me a
> little worried...
>
> I think there was something not right about the T-Mobile
> presence in this race from the beginning. I noticed that
> on the first stage, there was a group of 5 that finished
> more than 16 minutes down and there were three T-Mobiles
> in it (not Evans)... I think there might have been a
> contagious illness in the team which just happened to hit
> Cadel particularly hard today.
>
> -Sonarrat.
Story is up at cyclingnews.com and on Evans website. Evan's
fell while in the second group, was run over by two other
riders then had to wait for the second car to bring him a
wheel. It was back in the caravan and the #1 car was up at
the break. The Wheel came and it's found that his Rear Mech
is toasted, so they call the front car and a mechanic
*rides* his back up bike back through the pack to get it to
him....... Apparently Der JAn was supposed to be in
attendance but something went wrong and they ended up with
Evans riding for CG.
Sonarrat <sonarrat@stormloader.com> wrote:
> In article <c8pgdf$4ta$1@news-reader5.wanadoo.fr>,
> "matabala" <matabala@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> > What to think of Cadel Evans HD at L-R?
> It's not clear what happened to him, but personally, I
> prefer to see a rider go Hors Delai having done the course
> and having crossed the finish line, rather than dropping
> out mid-stage. It's a matter of professionalism and
> dedication. David Millar DNF'ed today, and that makes me a
> little worried...
Many of these guys have to race again next week. Toughing it
out to the finish may show guts and the stubbornness of a
Hinault or Armstrong (what was Armstrong's first WC race,
where he finished last in miserable conditions?). Or it may
just be keeping one step ahead of the broom wagon, riding
yourself into a hole while sick, injured or just plain
fatigued. Professionalism also means knowing when not to
kill yourself so that you can regain some condition for the
next race.
To make a ball-sports analogy, playing while hurt isn't
always good for the team, unless it's the biggest game
of the year.
Benjamin Weiner <bjw@mambo.ucolick.org> wrote in message news:<
> Many of these guys have to race again next week. Toughing
> it out to the finish may show guts and the stubbornness of
> a Hinault or Armstrong (what was Armstrong's first WC
> race, where he finished last in miserable conditions?).
Classica san sebastian, or Donastia-Donastia if you like. He
came in last, a week or two after the Olympics. The next
week (IIRC) he came in 2nd at Zurich to Ekimov.
"Sonarrat" <sonarrat@stormloader.com> wrote in message
news:sonarrat-2F494A.00175523052004@corp.supernews.com...
> In article <c8pgdf$4ta$1@news-reader5.wanadoo.fr>,
> "matabala" <matabala@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>
> > What to think of Cadel Evans HD at L-R?
>
> It's not clear what happened to him, but personally, I
> prefer to see a rider go Hors Delai having done the course
> and having crossed the finish line, rather than dropping
> out mid-stage. It's a matter of professionalism and
> dedication. David Millar DNF'ed today, and that makes me a
> little worried... <SNIP>
I heard he was HD after being penalized for using the team
car to tow him back to the peloton after he crashed.
-T
Tom Schulenburg wrote:
> "Sonarrat" <sonarrat@stormloader.com> wrote in message news:sonarrat-
> 2F494A.00175523052004@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>In article <c8pgdf$4ta$1@news-reader5.wanadoo.fr>,
>>"matabala" <matabala@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What to think of Cadel Evans HD at L-R?
>>
>>It's not clear what happened to him, but personally, I
>>prefer to see a rider go Hors Delai having done the course
>>and having crossed the finish line, rather than dropping
>>out mid-stage. It's a matter of professionalism and
>>dedication. David Millar DNF'ed today, and that makes me a
>>little worried... <SNIP>
>
>
> I heard he was HD after being penalized for using the team
> car to tow him back to the peloton after he crashed.
>
> -T
>
>
>
yeah they said he spent "too much time" hanging on to the
car while they tried to get the bike to run right.....
However it sounded like he went HD before penelties but that
part wasn't clear.....
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