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V brakes and canties
As some of you may know, I shortly to take delivery of a new
bicycle. Thanks to the mutterings of this group, I have
decided to spend more money than is wise on upgrading the
brakes form v's to hope minis[1] so this means I'll have a
spare set of v's lying around.
Now I have a mtb in the shed that has been sadly
neglecteted for varoious reasons, and this poor beast has
canti brakes. The question is, are the bosses for canties
and v's in the smae place? Can I replace the canties on the
mtb with the v's? It seems a shame to waste an opourtunity
to upgrade the mtb.
1. Hope minis. do I want mini monoes or straight hope minis.
What's the diference. The GH has 20" wheels btw.
--
.paul
If at first you don't succeed... Skydiving is probably not
the sport for you.
paul wrote:
> Now I have a mtb in the shed that has been sadly
> neglecteted for varoious reasons, and this poor beast has
> canti brakes. The question is, are the bosses for canties
> and v's in the smae place? Can I replace the canties on
> the mtb with the v's?
Yes you cn. Absolutely.
paul wrote:
> As some of you may know, I shortly to take delivery of a
> new bicycle. Thanks to the mutterings of this group, I
> have decided to spend more money than is wise on upgrading
> the brakes form v's to hope minis[1]
[...]
> 1. Hope minis. do I want mini monoes or straight hope
> minis. What's the diference. The GH has 20" wheels btw.
I have both, or rather had, as the Speedmachine now has an
M4 on the front. Both are excellent. Difference in price is
negligible, but the Monos look way blingier and probably
have fewer seals and stuff to be potential Things That Go
Wrong. If you are Large and/or given to repeated stops from
high speed, investing an extra tenner in the four-pot M4 may
be a Good Thing.
--
Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/
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In article <40b67620$0$58820$5a6aecb4@news.aaisp.net.uk>,
sbennett@YOUAREALLHEATHENSwiderworld.co.uk says...
> paul wrote:
>
> > Now I have a mtb in the shed that has been sadly
> > neglecteted for varoious reasons, and this poor beast
> > has canti brakes. The question is, are the bosses for
> > canties and v's in the smae place? Can I replace the
> > canties on the mtb with the v's?
>
> Yes you cn. Absolutely.
>
>
>
Blouudy hell, that was quick :)
--
.paul
If at first you don't succeed... Skydiving is probably not
the sport for you.
"Simonb" <sbennett@YOUAREALLHEATHENSwiderworld.co.uk> wrote in message
news:40b67620$0$58820$5a6aecb4@news.aaisp.net.uk...
> paul wrote:
>
> > Now I have a mtb in the shed that has been sadly
> > neglecteted for varoious reasons, and this poor beast
> > has canti brakes. The question is, are the bosses for
> > canties and v's in the smae place? Can I replace the
> > canties on the mtb with the v's?
>
> Yes you cn. Absolutely.
Indeed, the bosses are in the same place. But you will find
the brake levers from the cantis will not work correctly[1]
with the Vs unless the Vs are slightly unusual ones.
Not that new levers are that expensive.
[1] That is, you won't be able to stop with them :-)
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-- M.
In article <2hod9vFfavjcU3@uni-berlin.de>,
me@privacy.net says...
> paul wrote:
>
> > As some of you may know, I shortly to take delivery of a
> > new bicycle. Thanks to the mutterings of this group, I
> > have decided to spend more money than is wise on
> > upgrading the brakes form v's to hope minis[1]
> [...]
> > 1. Hope minis. do I want mini monoes or straight hope
> > minis. What's the diference. The GH has 20" wheels
> > btw.
>
> I have both, or rather had, as the Speedmachine now has an
> M4 on the front. Both are excellent. Difference in price
> is negligible, but the Monos look way blingier and
> probably have fewer seals and stuff to be potential Things
> That Go Wrong. If you are Large and/or given to repeated
> stops from high speed, investing an extra tenner in the
> four-pot M4 may be a Good Thing.
>
>
Mono M4s ordered. it's expensive asking for advice round
here :) mind you I am on the large side...
--
.paul
If at first you don't succeed... Skydiving is probably not
the sport for you.
"Dave Larrington" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2hod9vFfavjcU3@uni-berlin.de...
> paul wrote:
> > 1. Hope minis. do I want mini monoes or straight hope
> > minis. What's the diference. The GH has 20" wheels
> > btw.
>
> I have both, or rather had, as the Speedmachine now has an
> M4 on the
front.
> Both are excellent. Difference in price is negligible, but
> the Monos look way blingier and probably have fewer seals
> and stuff to be potential
Things
> That Go Wrong.
The 2 part caliper is joined with bolts and sealed with an
o-ring. Braking action tends to force the 2 caliper halves
apart with a risk of leaks developing from the o-ring.
Whether this has been a problem in use I don't know but I've
got Mini Monos and can vouch for the bling value ;-) http:/-
/uk.geocities.com/peter28@btinternet.com/My_Marin.html and
open the piccie up to a size that's visible!
--
Regards, Pete
paul posted ...
> In article <40b67620$0$58820$5a6aecb4@news.aaisp.net.uk>,
> sbennett@YOUAREALLHEATHENSwiderworld.co.uk says...
>> paul wrote:
>>
>>> Now I have a mtb in the shed that has been sadly
>>> neglecteted for varoious reasons, and this poor beast
>>> has canti brakes. The question is, are the bosses for
>>> canties and v's in the smae place? Can I replace the
>>> canties on the mtb with the v's?
>>
>> Yes you cn. Absolutely.
>>
>>
>>
> Blouudy hell, that was quick :)
Make sure you replace the brake levers too. Vee's pull a
different amount of cable than canti's and using the
different levers gives either a decent 'feel' or makes them
damned awkward to modulate braking pressure.
--
Paul
(8(|) Homer rocks .. ;)
Mark South wrote:
> Indeed, the bosses are in the same place. But you will
> find the brake levers from the cantis will not work
> correctly[1] with the Vs unless the Vs are slightly
> unusual ones.
>
> Not that new levers are that expensive.
>
> [1] That is, you won't be able to stop with them :-)
Well, you can - but the pads have to be set very close
to the rim and the brake will feel spongy as the
mechanical advantage of this combo is higher than the
designers intended.
Apparently the old DX 2-finger levers are OK with Vs, so if
your MTB is really old you could be OK. If they pull at
least 29mm of cable the levers are good.
In article <40b7707c.0@entanet>, hrothgar19@yahoo.com
says...
> Mark South wrote:
>
> > Indeed, the bosses are in the same place. But you will
> > find the brake levers from the cantis will not work
> > correctly[1] with the Vs unless the Vs are slightly
> > unusual ones.
> >
> > Not that new levers are that expensive.
> >
> > [1] That is, you won't be able to stop with them :-)
>
> Well, you can - but the pads have to be set very close to
> the rim and the brake will feel spongy as the mechanical
> advantage of this combo is higher than the designers
> intended.
>
> Apparently the old DX 2-finger levers are OK with Vs, so
> if your MTB is really old you could be OK. If they pull at
> least 29mm of cable the levers are good.
>
does ten count as old then? Cannondale killer V that has
dumped me a few times, once on a chip shop run that ended
up with me in the local hospital :( A helmet saved my
life[tm] ;0)
--
.paul
If at first you don't succeed... Skydiving is probably not
the sport for you.
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