"Genesis" Frames on mountain bikes

[p38lightning]

I have seen the term Genesis frame technology, and I think that this is a Gary Fisher term, but other manufacturers have sometimes referred to this. What is it, and what are the advantages and disadvantages of having this type of frame?

[serenaslu]

Originally posted by p38lightning
I have seen the term Genesis frame technology, and I think that this is a Gary Fisher term, but other manufacturers have sometimes referred to this. What is it, and what are the advantages and disadvantages of having this type of frame?

Everything that I have seen that refers to Genesis Geometry seems to focus on setting the rider further back than a tradtional MTB. I'm a roadie so can't really comment on plus or minuses of this setup.

excerpt from
http://www.brucescycleworks.com/fisher.html
Short chainstays put more weight over the rear wheel for improved traction while climbing, as well as increasing the stiffness and therefore increasing pedaling efficiency. Genesis geometry places the rider farther behind the front wheel and improves confidence while descending. The shorter stem length requires smaller arm movements to steer the bicycle. All of this is achieved without changing the rider's position on the bike .

[Greg-O]

i ride on a genesis frame. you're slightly closer to the back wheel, making the weight slightly farther back. it's supposed to make it easier for the front wheel to roll over obstacles on descents. I haven't really noticed a difference on descents.... but the real advantage is traction on climbs. it does keep the wheel from slipping when you're climbing.