Mayo takes le Mont Ventoux - 2 minutes ahead of Lance
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Stage 4 - June 10: Bédoin - Le Mont Ventoux ITT, 21.6 km
Results 1 Iban Mayo (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi
55.51.49 (23.202 km/h) 2 Tyler Hamilton (USA) Phonak Hearing
Systems .35.26 3 Oscar Sevilla (Spa) Phonak
Hearing Systems
55.52.09 4 Juan Miguel Mercado (Spa) Quick.Step-Davitamon
55.53.44 5 Lance Armstrong (USA) US Postal presented by
Berry Floor
55.54.89 6 Inigo Landaluze (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi
55.55.75 7 José Gutierrez (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems
55.56.09 8 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Rabobank
55.57.18 9 Michael Rasmussen (Den) Rabobank
55.58.38 10 Stéphane Goubert (Fra) Ag2R Prevoyance
55.59.81
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Read my lips, Tyler or Iban will win le Tour 2004.
/H
On 10 Jun 2004 09:49:18 -0700, Henrik <henrik.brinkhagen@swipnet.se> wrote:
> Stage 4 - June 10: Bédoin - Le Mont Ventoux ITT, 21.6 km
> Results 1 Iban Mayo (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi
> 55.51.49 (23.202 km/h) 2 Tyler Hamilton (USA) Phonak
> Hearing Systems .35.26 3 Oscar Sevilla (Spa)
> Phonak Hearing Systems
> 1.03.09 4 Juan Miguel Mercado (Spa) Quick.Step-Davitamon
> 1.48.44 5 Lance Armstrong (USA) US Postal presented by
> Berry Floor
> 1.57.89 6 Inigo Landaluze (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi
> 2.22.75 7 José Gutierrez (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems
> 2.44.09 8 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Rabobank
> 3.21.18 9 Michael Rasmussen (Den) Rabobank
> 3.33.38 10 Stéphane Goubert (Fra) Ag2R Prevoyance
> 3.35.81
>
> ____________
>
> Read my lips, Tyler or Iban will win le Tour 2004.
>
> /H
Going out on a limb there? Personally, I think it's still up
in the air.
--
Bob in CT Remove ".x" to reply
<<snip>>
> Read my lips, Tyler or Iban will win le Tour 2004.
>
> /H
Lance is just sandbagging. Jeff
"J Jones" <nfw@spammers.net> wrote in message
news:yA1yc.22177$LC3.11901@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> <<snip>>
>
> > Read my lips, Tyler or Iban will win le Tour 2004.
> >
> > /H
>
> Lance is just sandbagging. Jeff
>
>
Armstrong's coach Chris Carmichael recently called Lance
"the master of psychological warfare" and his less than all-
out performance on the Ventoux , just measured out enough to
test himself but not go "au bloc"
Hate to say this, but No. # 6 seems to be the jinx. -tom
"Tom Nakashima" <tom@slac.stanford.edu> wrote in message
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>
> "J Jones" <nfw@spammers.net> wrote in message
> news:yA1yc.22177$LC3.11901@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> > <<snip>>
> >
> > > Read my lips, Tyler or Iban will win le Tour 2004.
> > >
> > > /H
> >
> > Lance is just sandbagging. Jeff
> >
> >
>
> Armstrong's coach Chris Carmichael recently called Lance
> "the master of psychological warfare" and his less than
> all-out performance on the
Ventoux
> , just measured out enough to test himself but not go
> "au bloc"
>
> Hate to say this, but No. # 6 seems to be the jinx. -tom
>
>
Way too early to tell - after all, anything can happen
in le Tour.
Let's all just take a deep breath and see how it
goes... Jeff
I think Lance is the biggest favorite winning the TdF.
BUT.... The excuses groping of his fanboysx stands UGLY considering how they have been badmouthing Jan Ulrich.
It is okay for LA to loose a minute to super TT specialist Oscar babyface Sevilla, yet Jan can not loose a minute to "non-TT" Rich in a flat TT?
Yes... that was sarcasm... if LA's loss isn't saying anything, it is nothing that JU looses in a flat TT of an absolute worldspecialist.
Nuff said fanboys
I think Lance is the biggest favorite winning the TdF.
BUT.... The excuses groping of his fanboys stands UGLY considering how they have been badmouthing Jan Ulrich.
It is okay for LA to loose a minute to super TT specialist Oscar babyface Sevilla, yet Jan can not loose a minute to "non-TT" Rich in a flat TT?
Yes... that was sarcasm... if LA's loss isn't saying anything, it is nothing that JU looses in a flat TT of an absolute worldspecialist.
Nuff said fanboys
"Tom Nakashima" <tom@slac.stanford.edu> schreef in bericht
news:caaht9$c4a$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>
> "J Jones" <nfw@spammers.net> wrote in message
> news:yA1yc.22177$LC3.11901@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> > <<snip>>
> >
> > > Read my lips, Tyler or Iban will win le Tour 2004.
> > >
> > > /H
> >
> > Lance is just sandbagging. Jeff
> >
> >
>
> Armstrong's coach Chris Carmichael recently called Lance
> "the master of psychological warfare" and his less than
> all-out performance on the
Ventoux
> , just measured out enough to test himself but not go
> "au bloc"
>
> Hate to say this, but No. # 6 seems to be the jinx.
Even if Armstrong isn't anymore the climber he used to be,
he still doesnt have to worry. There are hardly any
mountains in the Tour. Nothing above the 2000m. Even
Cipollini can win ...
Benjo Maso
No one mentions peaking? How fast do you want to be 6 weeks
out from the most cirtical days of racing? Lance should
still be training hard and testing his day-to-day recovery.
-WG
"Tuschinski" <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
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>>
> It is okay for LA to loose a minute to super TT specialist
> Oscar babyface Sevilla, yet Jan can not loose a minute to
> "non-TT" Rich in a flat TT?
>
Wasn't Rich a silver medalist in the Worlds TT ?
-T
"warren" <warren@usvhremove.com> wrote in message
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> No one mentions peaking? How fast do you want to be 6
> weeks out from the most cirtical days of racing? Lance
> should still be training hard and testing his day-to-day
> recovery.
>
> -WG
As is Tyler who was > 1 min. faster.
"Tom Schulenburg" <tschulenYOUR@HATpacbell.net> wrote in message
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> "Tuschinski" <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in
> message
> news:H75yc.102751$Ov2.102203@fe26.usenetserver.com...
> >>
> > It is okay for LA to loose a minute to super TT
> > specialist Oscar babyface Sevilla, yet Jan can not loose
> > a minute to "non-TT" Rich in a flat TT?
> >
>
> Wasn't Rich a silver medalist in the Worlds TT ?
>
> -T
Yes. 2000 & 2002
http://www.gerolsteiner.de/cycling-english/index.html
In article <9P5yc.21373$Yd3.5485@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>, B.
Lafferty <Magni@Italia.com> wrote:
> "warren" <warren@usvhremove.com> wrote in message
> news:100620041552056828%warren@usvhremove.com...
> > No one mentions peaking? How fast do you want to be 6
> > weeks out from the most cirtical days of racing? Lance
> > should still be training hard and testing his day-to-day
> > recovery.
> >
> > -WG
>
> As is Tyler who was > 1 min. faster.
Different guys will work on different aspects of their
fitness leading up to a peak. They're not comparable to any
great degree until everybody is together at the most
important days of the most important race.
-WG
In article <100620041822279327%warren@usvhremove.com>, warren
<warren@usvhremove.com> wrote:
> In article
> <9P5yc.21373$Yd3.5485@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
> B. Lafferty <Magni@Italia.com> wrote:
>
> > "warren" <warren@usvhremove.com> wrote in message
> > news:100620041552056828%warren@usvhremove.com...
> > > No one mentions peaking? How fast do you want to be 6
> > > weeks out from the most cirtical days of racing? Lance
> > > should still be training hard and testing his day-to-
> > > day recovery.
> > >
> > > -WG
> >
> > As is Tyler who was > 1 min. faster.
>
> Different guys will work on different aspects of their
> fitness leading up to a peak. They're not comparable to
> any great degree until everybody is together at the most
> important days of the most important race.
>
> -WG
To add to my earlier post...
Now, from someone (else) who knows, CC's recent comments
about Lance being a bit coy about his current abilities
are on the mark. Best to encourage a high amount of
interest in the TOUR.
-WG
henrik.brinkhagen@swipnet.se (Henrik) wrote in message news:<8292ad02.0406100849.4f093b55@posting.google.com>...
> Stage 4 - June 10: Bédoin - Le Mont Ventoux ITT, 21.6 km
> Results 1 Iban Mayo (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi
> 55.51.49 (23.202 km/h) 2 Tyler Hamilton (USA) Phonak
> Hearing Systems .35.26 3 Oscar Sevilla (Spa)
> Phonak Hearing Systems
> 1.03.09 4 Juan Miguel Mercado (Spa) Quick.Step-Davitamon
> 1.48.44 5 Lance Armstrong (USA) US Postal presented by
> Berry Floor
> 1.57.89
> ____________
>
> Read my lips, Tyler or Iban will win le Tour 2004.
>
> /H
I'm afraid Iban will be over the top in the decisive last
week of the tour.
"benjo maso" <benjo.maso@chello.nl> wrote in message news:<2is4krFqla5kU1@uni-berlin.de>...
> > Armstrong's coach Chris Carmichael recently called Lance
> > "the master of psychological warfare" and his less than
> > all-out performance on the
> Ventoux
> > , just measured out enough to test himself but not go
> > "au bloc"
> >
> > Hate to say this, but No. # 6 seems to be the jinx.
>
>
> Even if Armstrong isn't anymore the climber he used to be,
> he still doesnt have to worry. There are hardly any
> mountains in the Tour. Nothing above the 2000m.
I'm sure JU would love that.
Originally posted by Tom Schulenburg
"Tuschinski" <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
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>>
> It is okay for LA to loose a minute to super TT specialist
> Oscar babyface Sevilla, yet Jan can not loose a minute to
> "non-TT" Rich in a flat TT?
>
Wasn't Rich a silver medalist in the Worlds TT ?
-T
That was my Sarcasm... LA looses from a NON TT specialist (agreed, it is mountainous, but it is still a TT), JU looses from a flat TT super-specialist.
My point is that JU was shot down by some, yet LA can't do anything wrong by the same people.... it annoys me.
Tuschinski wrote:
> Tom Schulenburg wrote:
> > "Tuschinski" <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in
> > message
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> 102203@fe26.usenetserver.comnews:H75yc.102751$Ov2.102203@-
> > fe26.usenetserver.com... > >> > > It is okay for LA to
> > loose a
> minute to super TT specialist Oscar > > babyface Sevilla,
> yet Jan can not loose a minute to "non-TT" Rich in a > >
> flat TT? > > > Wasn't Rich a silver medalist in the Worlds
> TT ? > -T
>
>
>
> That was my Sarcasm... LA looses from a NON TT specialist
> (agreed, it is mountainous, but it is still a TT), JU
> looses from a flat TT super- specialist.
>
> My point is that JU was shot down by some, yet LA can't do
> anything wrong by the same people.... it annoys me.
So you would have been less annoyed by folks comments if it
had been TT specialist Millar who beat Armstrong up the
Ventoux instead of Mayo?
"warren" <warren@usvhremove.com> wrote in message
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> No one mentions peaking? How fast do you want to be 6
> weeks out from the most cirtical days of racing? Lance
> should still be training hard and testing his day-to-day
> recovery.
>
> -WG
But so is everyone else.... I thought it was good strategy
that LA didn't show his hand in the Dauphine Libere. It was
noted in the L-Chronicles yesterday, that last year by
winning the DL, it took too much out of him. This year LA
wanted to get a good prep in and to see what the otheres
have. So we know now Mayo has a pair of aces and Hamilton a
pair of Kings. I think Ham should have held back a bit in
the DL, as well as his team, their strong showing makes them
a heavy contender in the Tour, Team Phonak looks pretty
strong. -tom
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 07:10:30 -0700, "Tom Nakashima"
<tom@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
>This year LA wanted to get a good prep in and to see what
>the otheres have. So we know now Mayo has a pair of aces
>and Hamilton a pair of Kings.
Big deal. LA was misquoted. He isn't peaking for the TdF,
he is 'packing'. Two Colts trumps two aces. Wait for the
great photo shot when Mayo and Hamilton are lined up and
in line...
Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on
two wheels...
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