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Davek
  
Well, last weekend I finally ditched the clunky old lumps of steel that were
weighing my bike down and replaced them with my lovely new (well,
secondhand) wheels - 32-hole MA3 rims on 105 hubs, fitted with Vittoria
Rubinos. The verdict? Well, the short version would be: Wheeeeeeeeeee!

My first proper ride was the Sunday morning club run. We did
a fairly undulating route and the uppish bits seemed
significantly less of a struggle than previously. Not
surprising really - I tried to weigh the difference between
the old and the new wheels and it seems I've suddenly
dropped something in the order of 2kg off the overall weight
of my bike. I've also gone from chunky 1 1/4" touring tyres
to 23mm high-pressure slicks - the difference in rolling
performance is such that on smooth tarmac it feels like I'm
gliding with the new wheels, although less-than-smooth
surfaces suddenly seem a lot harder than before...

The wheels may be secondhand, but they have been well looked
after. The hubs are a dream and I reckon there's plenty of
life left in the rims - but even if there isn't and I need
to replace the rims soon, £35 for a pair of 105 hubs would
still be a bargain.

Today I was working up in the big town and decided to take
my bike so that on the return journey I could get off the
train a stop or two early and get a short ride in. And it
was abso-bloody-lutely marvellous. This morning's rain had
all disappeared and the afternoon sun had nicely dried up
the roads, leaving a pleasantly mild evening - perfect
cycling conditions, in fact, especially when you factor in
the slight tailwind.

I blasted through the 12.6 miles in a little over 38 minutes
- an average speed of 19.6mph, which I'm sure is some kind
of record for me. And it felt wonderful- even though I
compensated for the lighter weight of the new wheels by
having a backpack (containing all my day-in-the-office
accoutrements), the difference in the way my bike feels with
the new wheels meant that the route suddenly seemed somewhat
flatter than before...

Another big difference with the new wheels is the gearing.
I've gone from having a five-speed 14-28 freewheel to an eight-
speed 11-28 cassette, so I've now got two extra gears at the
top end (11t and 12t) and one extra gear in the 14-28 range
(only one, but it's enough to make a noticeable difference).
I was a bit dubious about needing the 11t sprocket, but it's
hard to find off-the-shelf cassettes that give a closer-
spaced range combined with a lower top end, especially on my
budget. And I do still appreciate having the 28t big
sprocket (my small chainring is 42t, so my bottom gear is
still not especially small, even by modern road bike
standards - my calculations tell me 42*28 is the same as
39*26). Having ridden it, I'm glad to have the 11t sprocket
- paired with the 52t chainring, that's a pretty big top
gear I've got now (and a huge increase on my previous top
gear), so I've only used it a couple of times, on the odd
occasion when I've had a proper hill to go down, but those
occasions have been almost obscenely good fun.

Anyway, I am one very happy bunny. With recent upgrades to
my brakes and now my wheels, I've breathed new life into my
old bike (next job I'm saving up for is a respray) and
further boosted my enthusiasm for cycling - of course it's
not just the wheels, it's partly my rapidly improving
fitness that's making the difference, but when your bike
allows you to convert improved fitness into increased speed,
rather than just sucking up your extra energy and wasting
it, it does give you a lot of extra motivation.

My club mentor (it's an ad hoc designation I've just come up
with for want of better words) is talking about entering a
local road race in September, a prospect that not so long
ago would have scared me witless - but now it's something
that I would relish. Roll on September!

d.

Mark South
  
"davek" <david.nospam.kenning@which.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:caaq0i$alp$1@titan.btinternet.com...
> Well, last weekend I finally ditched the clunky old lumps
> of steel that were weighing my bike down and replaced them
> with my lovely new (well, secondhand) wheels - 32-hole MA3
> rims on 105 hubs, fitted with Vittoria Rubinos. The
> verdict? Well, the short version would be: Wheeeeeeeeeee!

MA3s, hmm? How many spokes have pulled through the rim
so far? :-)
--
Mark South: World Citizen, Net Denizen

davek
  
Mark South:
>MA3s, hmm? How many spokes have pulled through the rim so far? :-)

None yet, but I've done less than 70 miles on them so far. Give them a chance...

How far back does this problem with MA3s go? ie when did they change the design so that spokes pulling through became a problem - or have they always been like that?

Anyway, like I said, I paid a mere £35 for the pair and the hubs are in fine condition, so if I have to get new rims some time soon I won't be too upset (as long as they don't fail on me at an awkward moment) - I'll just have an excuse to fit fancy new rims.

d.

Tony B
  
> (next job I'm saving up for is a respray)

once I've drank me tea I'll be off to the local powder
coating place to pick up my Raleigh frameset, the fixed cog
project is moving on a pace... anyway, they have done it
for £17.50!!! Bless... not seen it yet though, so it could
be horrid...

bfn,

Tony B

Simonb
  
davek wrote:
> Mark South:
>> MA3s, hmm? How many spokes have pulled through the rim so
>> far? :-)
>
> None yet, but I've done less than 70 miles on them so far.
> Give them a chance...
>
> How far back does this problem with MA3s go? ie when did
> they change the design so that spokes pulling through
> became a problem - or have they always been like that?

Like a lot of things, MA3s get mixed reviews, though mostly
good. Don't know what Mark's talking about.

Enjoy the new wheels. I couldn't believe the difference
between my old OEM wheelset and a brand new pair of Open
Pro/Ultegra. Felt like the bike could just roll forever.

When you get a fancy set, it makes you conscious of the need
to keep your bearings correctly adjusted.

Mark South
  
"Simonb" <sbennett@YOUAREALLHEATHENSwiderworld.co.uk> wrote in message
news:40c9bb06$0$58822$5a6aecb4@news.aaisp.net.uk...
> davek wrote:
> > Mark South:
> >> MA3s, hmm? How many spokes have pulled through the rim
> >> so far? :-)
> >
> > None yet, but I've done less than 70 miles on them so
> > far. Give them a chance...

It'll be good to hear how you get on with them.

> > How far back does this problem with MA3s go? ie when did
> > they change the design so that spokes pulling through
> > became a problem - or have they always been like that?

There have been a lot of reports of spokes pulling through
when the wheels are correctly tensioned. This has been
attributed to the eyelet design in these rims, which is a
place where mavic has saved some cost and weight.

It's less of a problem with undertensioned wheels, but i
that case one can expect to start breaking spokes.

> Like a lot of things, MA3s get mixed reviews, though
> mostly good. Don't know what Mark's talking about.

Mark's talking about hearing lots of reports of spokes
pulling through MA3s.

But I suspect you did know that.

> Enjoy the new wheels. I couldn't believe the difference
> between my old OEM wheelset and a brand new pair of Open
> Pro/Ultegra. Felt like the bike could just roll forever.
>
> When you get a fancy set, it makes you conscious of the
> need to keep your bearings correctly adjusted.

Amen.
--
Mark South: World Citizen, Net Denizen

Simonb
  
Mark South wrote:

> Mark's talking about hearing lots of reports of spokes
> pulling through MA3s.
>
> But I suspect you did know that.

No, I didn't. That's why I'd no idea what you were
talking about.

Mark South
  
"Simonb" <sbennett@YOUAREALLHEATHENSwiderworld.co.uk> wrote in message
news:40c9ddbd$0$58822$5a6aecb4@news.aaisp.net.uk...
> Mark South wrote:
>
> > Mark's talking about hearing lots of reports of spokes
> > pulling through MA3s.
> >
> > But I suspect you did know that.
>
> No, I didn't. That's why I'd no idea what you were
> talking about.

It must have been clear from the context.

Maybe I'm just one of those heathens....
--
Mark South: World Citizen, Net Denizen

Martinm
  
"Mark South" <mark.south@null.invalid> wrote in message news:<40c97bd6$1_2@news.bluewin.ch>...
> "davek" <david.nospam.kenning@which.nospam.net> wrote in
> message news:caaq0i$alp$1@titan.btinternet.com...
> > Well, last weekend I finally ditched the clunky old
> > lumps of steel that were weighing my bike down and
> > replaced them with my lovely new (well, secondhand)
> > wheels - 32-hole MA3 rims on 105 hubs, fitted with
> > Vittoria Rubinos. The verdict? Well, the short version
> > would be: Wheeeeeeeeeee!
>
> MA3s, hmm? How many spokes have pulled through the rim so
> far? :-)

I've had mine 18 months with no trouble whatsoever and done
servile 2-400's on them

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