No Vino

[Ewoud Dronkert]

He's out, needs surgery. Damn.

[Daremo]

Originally posted by Ewoud Dronkert
He's out, needs surgery. Damn.

Needs surgery? Velo news just said he is in the hospital after crashing at the Tour De Suisse.

[Stan Cox]

Daremo wrote:
> Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> > He's out, needs surgery. Damn.
>
>
>
> Needs surgery? Velo news just said he is in the hospital
> after crashing at the Tour De Suisse.
>
>
>
> --
>
>
cyclingnews has this.

Vino out for three weeks After his crash in the Tour de
Suisse yesterday, T-Mobile's Alexandre Vinokourov will be
out of action for three weeks due to his injuries. The team
reported that his Tour start is in "grave danger".

Bugger, its obviously worse than they thought it was
yesterday :(

Stan Cox

[Ewoud Dronkert]

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:16:15 GMT, Daremo wrote:
>Needs surgery? Velo news just said he is in the hospital
>after crashing at the Tour De Suisse.

go whenever I see cyclingforumsdotcom), see http://teletekst.nos.nl/tekst/648-
01.html

**Aleksandr Vinokoerov gaat definitief niet naar de Tour de
France.De Kazach liep zondag in de Ronde van Zwitserland
een schouderblessure op bij een val en gaat dinsdag onder
het mes.De nummer drie van de vorige editie van de Tour
staat daarna drie weken aan de kant.

[Steve]

On 6/14/04 9:26 AM, in article dckrc0l7iufsnkt541q34oqfesshab4qui@4ax.com,
"Ewoud Dronkert" <me@privacy.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:16:15 GMT, Daremo wrote:
>> Needs surgery? Velo news just said he is in the hospital
>> after crashing at the Tour De Suisse.
>

> go whenever I see cyclingforumsdotcom), see http://teletekst.nos.nl/tekst/648-
> 01.html
>
>
> **Aleksandr Vinokoerov gaat........

Vino is really a mountain goat??

[Stewart Fleming]

Daremo wrote:

> Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> > He's out, needs surgery. Damn.
>
>
>
> Needs surgery? Velo news just said he is in the hospital
> after crashing at the Tour De Suisse.

Good place to get surgery, the hospital.

[Ewoud Dronkert]

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 08:05:01 +1200, Stewart Fleming wrote:
> Good place to get surgery, the hospital.

Alternatively, get it Dr. Jones's; you may end up on the
barbie though, ready to burn with all the useless
sources. Still, he has Sporza, so the pre-operative stay
could be pleasant.

[Clovis Lark]

Stewart Fleming <stewart.fleming@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

> Daremo wrote:

>> Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
>> > He's out, needs surgery. Damn.
>>
>>
>>
>> Needs surgery? Velo news just said he is in the hospital
>> after crashing at the Tour De Suisse.

> Good place to get surgery, the hospital.

Dr. Frankenstien LaBORE-atory was booked...

[Richard Adams]

Ewoud Dronkert <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<4iirc092409tnt9htcf2gatb26q17nl7qb@4ax.com>...

> He's out, needs surgery. Damn.

So where's T-mobile going to scare up a climber really
quick? Maybe they can buy Valverde real fast. Whatcha think?

[derby]

Originally posted by Richard Adams
Ewoud Dronkert <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<4iirc092409tnt9htcf2gatb26q17nl7qb@4ax.com>...

> He's out, needs surgery. Damn.

So where's T-mobile going to scare up a climber really
quick? Maybe they can buy Valverde real fast. Whatcha think?

Well, I hear Botero has been hiding from te Columbian kidnapers in the Euro pro peloton this year, so they may be able to scare him up, if he's not already scared.

Guerini has ridden a mountain or two in is time, as has Evans.

And Kloden used to be Ullrich's right hand man in the mountains and can set a pretty good tempo.

If Salvodelli has recovered from his crash and is fit, he has been known to climb a little also, so, I think they'll find someone on that team to help out.:cool:

[Richard Adams]

derby wrote:
> Richard Adams wrote:
> > Ewoud Dronkert <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> > news:<4iirc092409tnt9htcf2gatb26q17nl7qb@4ax.com>...
> > > He's out, needs surgery. Damn.
> > So where's T-mobile going to scare up a climber really
> > quick? Maybe they can buy Valverde real fast. Whatcha
> > think?
>
>
>
> Well, I hear Botero has been hiding from te Columbian
> kidnapers in the Euro pro peloton this year, so they may
> be able to scare him up, if he's not already scared.
>
> Guerini has ridden a mountain or two in is time, as
> has Evans.
>
> And Kloden used to be Ullrich's right hand man in the
> mountains and can set a pretty good tempo.
>
> If Salvodelli has recovered from his crash and is fit, he
> has been known to climb a little also, so, I think they'll
> find someone on that team to help out.:cool:

Botero has been riding in the TdS with Jan, Botero is quite
a ways back. Maybe he's trying to win a stage or something.

[Sonarrat]

Richard Adams wrote:

> Ewoud Dronkert <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:<4iirc092409tnt9htcf2gatb26q17nl7qb@4ax.com>...
>
>
>>He's out, needs surgery. Damn.
>
>
> So where's T-mobile going to scare up a climber
> really quick? Maybe they can buy Valverde real fast.
> Whatcha think?

Utter nonsense.

Scott Sunderland on Day 1 of the Tour de Suisse: "Ullrich
was outstanding ... Botero and Guerini had been riding the
whole day in front to keep a good tempo ... "

-Sonarrat.

[Howard Kveck]

In article <Pxnzc.2450$NA1.257071@news02.tsnz.net>,
Stewart Fleming <stewart.fleming@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

> Daremo wrote:
>
> > Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> > > He's out, needs surgery. Damn.
> >
> >
> >
> > Needs surgery? Velo news just said he is in the hospital
> > after crashing at the Tour De Suisse.
>
> Good place to get surgery, the hospital.
>

Home surgery is doable. Just go to the drug store and get
one of those Suture-self kits.

--
tanx, Howard

"Copper will never be gold" Shellac

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

[Richard Adams]

Sonarrat wrote:

> Richard Adams wrote:
>
>> Ewoud Dronkert <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:<4iirc092409tnt9htcf2gatb26q17nl7qb@4ax.com>...
>>
>>
>>> He's out, needs surgery. Damn.
>>
>>
>>
>> So where's T-mobile going to scare up a climber
>> really quick? Maybe they can buy Valverde real fast.
>> Whatcha think?
>
>
> Utter nonsense.
>
> Scott Sunderland on Day 1 of the Tour de Suisse: "Ullrich
> was outstanding ... Botero and Guerini had been riding the
> whole day in front to keep a good tempo ... "
>
> -Sonarrat.

About time he started earning his keep.

[Richard Adams]

Howard Kveck wrote:

> In article <Pxnzc.2450$NA1.257071@news02.tsnz.net>,
> Stewart Fleming <stewart.fleming@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>
>
>>Daremo wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
>>> > He's out, needs surgery. Damn.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Needs surgery? Velo news just said he is in the hospital
>>>after crashing at the Tour De Suisse.
>>
>>Good place to get surgery, the hospital.
>>
>
>
> Home surgery is doable. Just go to the drug store and
> get one of those Suture-self kits.
>

Nah, just go to OSH and get a heavy duty stapler.

[Howard Kveck]

In article <calrg4$guh@dispatch.concentric.net>,
Richard Adams <ackthpt@concentric.net> wrote:

> Howard Kveck wrote:

> > Home surgery is doable. Just go to the drug store and
> > get one of those Suture-self kits.
> >
>
> Nah, just go to OSH and get a heavy duty stapler.

At a furniture building job I had many years ago, I saw a
guy shoot
himself in the thigh with a 3" staple. He's laying on the
floor howling,
and the floor supervisor walked up and yanked it out with a
pair of pliers
- then snarled, "Put some duct tape on that and get back to
work!" Harsh.

--
tanx, Howard

"Copper will never be gold" Shellac

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

[Richard Adams]

Howard Kveck wrote:

> In article <calrg4$guh@dispatch.concentric.net>,
> Richard Adams <ackthpt@concentric.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Howard Kveck wrote:
>
>
>>> Home surgery is doable. Just go to the drug store and
>>> get one of those Suture-self kits.
>>>
>>
>>Nah, just go to OSH and get a heavy duty stapler.
>
>
> At a furniture building job I had many years ago, I saw a
> guy shoot
> himself in the thigh with a 3" staple. He's laying on the
> floor howling,
>and the floor supervisor walked up and yanked it out with a
> pair of pliers
>- then snarled, "Put some duct tape on that and get back to
> work!" Harsh.
>

What? Ductape makes a fine bandage.

[Stewart Fleming]

Richard Adams wrote:

> What? Ductape makes a fine bandage.
>

Good for sealing windows, too.

[Warren]

In article <calt9s$guo@dispatch.concentric.net>, Richard Adams
<ackthpt@concentric.net> wrote:

> Howard Kveck wrote:
>
> > In article <calrg4$guh@dispatch.concentric.net>,
> > Richard Adams <ackthpt@concentric.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Howard Kveck wrote:
> >
> >
> >>> Home surgery is doable. Just go to the drug store
> >>> and get one of those Suture-self kits.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Nah, just go to OSH and get a heavy duty stapler.
> >
> >
> >At a furniture building job I had many years ago, I saw a
> > guy shoot
> >himself in the thigh with a 3" staple. He's laying on the
> > floor howling,
> >and the floor supervisor walked up and yanked it out with
> > a pair of pliers
> >- then snarled, "Put some duct tape on that and get back
> > to work!" Harsh.
> >
>
> What? Ductape makes a fine bandage.

Sometimes. If there's too much blood the ductape loses its
adhesion and then the boss is mad at you for dripping all
over his floor. Besides, I like electrical tape better
because it flexes better.

-WG

[Sonarrat]

derby wrote:
> Richard Adams wrote:
> > Ewoud Dronkert <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> > news:<4iirc092409tnt9htcf2gatb26q17nl7qb@4ax.com>...
> > > He's out, needs surgery. Damn.
> > So where's T-mobile going to scare up a climber really
> > quick? Maybe they can buy Valverde real fast. Whatcha
> > think?
>
>
>
> Well, I hear Botero has been hiding from te Columbian
> kidnapers in the Euro pro peloton this year, so they may
> be able to scare him up, if he's not already scared.
>
> Guerini has ridden a mountain or two in is time, as
> has Evans.
>
> And Kloden used to be Ullrich's right hand man in the
> mountains and can set a pretty good tempo.
>
> If Salvodelli has recovered from his crash and is fit, he
> has been known to climb a little also, so, I think they'll
> find someone on that team to help out.

Don't forget Rolf Aldag, who is almost 36 but can still
climb with the best of them. He took 2nd on the stage into
Morzine behind Richard Virenque in the last TdF, and he also
put in a long breakaway during the super-hilly T-Mobile
International (San Francisco GP).

-Sonarrat.