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Callistus Valer
  
Lance has 5, Lemond has a virtual 5. Eddy claims in
Bicycling magazine he could have had 2 more, in '68, '73 two
years he didn't participate when he was in top form, giving
him a virtual 7. Anquetil claims he had a virtual
6. Lance only claims 5. Hinault would have had a virtual 6
if it wasn't for that selfish Greg.

Lance needs 8 to be the undisputed King of all times.

Psycholist
  
"Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Lance has 5, Lemond has a virtual 5. Eddy claims in
> Bicycling magazine he could have had 2 more, in '68, '73
> two years he didn't participate when he was in top form,
> giving him a virtual 7. Anquetil claims he had a virtual
> 6. Lance only claims 5. Hinault would have had a virtual
> 6 if it wasn't for that selfish Greg.
>
> Lance needs 8 to be the undisputed King of all times.
>

I thought Lance needed two. Oh ... I'm sorry. I thought we
were talking about something else.

Bob In Ct
  
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:13:15 GMT, Callistus Valerius
<jazzyboss@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Lance has 5, Lemond has a virtual 5. Eddy claims in
> Bicycling magazine he could have had 2 more, in '68, '73
> two years he didn't participate when he was in top form,
> giving him a virtual 7. Anquetil claims he had a virtual
> 6. Lance only claims 5. Hinault would have had a virtual
> 6 if it wasn't for that selfish Greg.
>
> Lance needs 8 to be the undisputed King of all times.
>
>

I think Lance needs 6 then needs to win the Giro five times
and the Vuelta a few times, a la Merckx.

--
Bob in CT Remove ".x" to reply

Benjo Maso
  
"Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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> Lance has 5, Lemond has a virtual 5. Eddy claims in
> Bicycling magazine he could have had 2 more, in '68, '73
> two years he didn't participate when he was in top form,
> giving him a virtual 7. Anquetil claims he had a virtual
> 6. Lance only claims 5. Hinault would have had a virtual
> 6 if it wasn't for that selfish Greg.
>
> Lance needs 8 to be the undisputed King of all times.

Bartali had a virtual 10, at the very least.

Benjo Maso

Jonathan V.D. S
  
"Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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> Lance has 5, Lemond has a virtual 5. Eddy claims in
> Bicycling magazine he could have had 2 more, in '68, '73
> two years he didn't participate when he was in top form,
> giving him a virtual 7. Anquetil claims he had a virtual
> 6. Lance only claims 5. Hinault would have had a virtual
> 6 if it wasn't for that selfish Greg.

Actually, Hinault was rather unlucky not to win 1980, so he
can claim virtual 7 as well.

Clovis Lark
  
Bob in CT <ctviggen.x@adelphia.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:13:15 GMT, Callistus Valerius
> <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> Lance has 5, Lemond has a virtual 5. Eddy claims in
>> Bicycling magazine he could have had 2 more, in '68, '73
>> two years he didn't participate when he was in top form,
>> giving him a virtual 7. Anquetil claims he had a virtual
>> 6. Lance only claims 5. Hinault would have had a virtual
>> 6 if it wasn't for that selfish Greg.
>>
>> Lance needs 8 to be the undisputed King of all times.
>>
>>

> I think Lance needs 6 then needs to win the Giro five
> times and the Vuelta a few times, a la Merckx.

How about a Paris-Roubaix? A Milan-San Remo?

> --
> Bob in CT Remove ".x" to reply

Tom Nakashima
  
"Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Lance has 5, Lemond has a virtual 5. Eddy claims in
> Bicycling magazine he could have had 2 more, in '68, '73
> two years he didn't participate when he was in top form,
> giving him a virtual 7. Anquetil claims he had a virtual
> 6. Lance only claims 5. Hinault would have had a virtual
> 6 if it wasn't for that selfish Greg.
>
> Lance needs 8 to be the undisputed King of all times.
>
Or LeMond could have won 7 if it wasn't for Hinault's
selfishness, or was it Greg's stupidity for not knowing when
badger season was. -tom

Bob In Ct
  
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:58:29 +0000 (UTC), Clovis Lark
<clark@steel.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote:

> Bob in CT <ctviggen.x@adelphia.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:13:15 GMT, Callistus Valerius
>> <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Lance has 5, Lemond has a virtual 5. Eddy claims in
>>> Bicycling magazine he could have had 2 more, in '68, '73
>>> two years he didn't participate when he was in top form,
>>> giving him a virtual 7. Anquetil claims he had a virtual
>>> 6. Lance only claims 5. Hinault would have had a
>>> virtual 6 if it wasn't for that selfish Greg.
>>>
>>> Lance needs 8 to be the undisputed King of all times.
>>>
>>>
>
>> I think Lance needs 6 then needs to win the Giro five
>> times and the Vuelta a few times, a la Merckx.
>
> How about a Paris-Roubaix? A Milan-San Remo?
>

Sure! Heck, I'd like to see him just enter the Giro. This
"everything for the Tour" is mind boggling.

--
Bob in CT Remove ".x" to reply

Ronald
  
> Lance has 5, Lemond has a virtual 5. Eddy claims in
> Bicycling magazine he could have had 2 more, in '68, '73
> two years he didn't participate when he was in top form,
> giving him a virtual 7. Anquetil claims he had a virtual
> 6. Lance only claims 5. Hinault would have had a virtual
> 6 if it wasn't for that selfish Greg.

Virtual Lance isn't on five yet, he just got some of
those because der Jan couldn't stay of the Bratwursts and
party pills.

"Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> wrote in
message
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> Lance has 5, Lemond has a virtual 5. Eddy claims in
> Bicycling magazine he could have had 2 more, in '68, '73
> two years he didn't participate when he was in top form,
> giving him a virtual 7. Anquetil claims he had a virtual
> 6. Lance only claims 5. Hinault would have had a virtual
> 6 if it wasn't for that selfish Greg.
>
> Lance needs 8 to be the undisputed King of all times.

Clovis Lark
  
Tom Nakashima <tom@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:

> "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> wrote in
> message news:fNmzc.372$w07.200@newsread2.news.pas.earthli-
> nk.net...
>> Lance has 5, Lemond has a virtual 5. Eddy claims in
>> Bicycling magazine he could have had 2 more, in '68, '73
>> two years he didn't participate when he was in top form,
>> giving him a virtual 7. Anquetil claims he had a virtual
>> 6. Lance only claims 5. Hinault would have had a virtual
>> 6 if it wasn't for that selfish Greg.
>>
>> Lance needs 8 to be the undisputed King of all times.
>>
> Or LeMond could have won 7 if it wasn't for Hinault's
> selfishness, or was it Greg's stupidity for not knowing
> when badger season was. -tom

Turkey season. That's what's so special about it...

Carl Sundquist
  
"Clovis Lark" <clark@steel.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote in message
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> Tom Nakashima <tom@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
>
> > "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> wrote in
> > message news:fNmzc.372$w07.200@newsread2.news.pas.earth-
> > link.net...
> >> Lance has 5, Lemond has a virtual 5. Eddy claims in
> >> Bicycling magazine
he
> >> could have had 2 more, in '68, '73 two years he didn't
> >> participate when
he
> >> was in top form, giving him a virtual 7. Anquetil
> >> claims he had a
virtual
> >> 6. Lance only claims 5. Hinault would have had a
> >> virtual 6 if it
wasn't
> >> for that selfish Greg.
> >>
> >> Lance needs 8 to be the undisputed King of all times.
> >>
> > Or LeMond could have won 7 if it wasn't for Hinault's
> > selfishness, or
was it
> > Greg's stupidity for not knowing when badger season
> > was. -tom
>
> Turkey season. That's what's so special about it...
>

I'm thinking Tom meant for Greg to have taken Hinault
hunting with them on the ill-fated day.

Clovis Lark
  
Carl Sundquist <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote:

> "Clovis Lark" <clark@steel.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote in
> message news:calblv$4nh$4@hood.uits.indiana.edu...
>> Tom Nakashima <tom@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
>>
>> > "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> > message news:fNmzc.372$w07.200@newsread2.news.pas.eart-
>> > hlink.net...
>> >> Lance has 5, Lemond has a virtual 5. Eddy claims in
>> >> Bicycling magazine
> he
>> >> could have had 2 more, in '68, '73 two years he didn't
>> >> participate when
> he
>> >> was in top form, giving him a virtual 7. Anquetil
>> >> claims he had a
> virtual
>> >> 6. Lance only claims 5. Hinault would have had a
>> >> virtual 6 if it
> wasn't
>> >> for that selfish Greg.
>> >>
>> >> Lance needs 8 to be the undisputed King of all times.
>> >>
>> > Or LeMond could have won 7 if it wasn't for Hinault's
>> > selfishness, or
> was it
>> > Greg's stupidity for not knowing when badger season
>> > was. -tom
>>
>> Turkey season. That's what's so special about it...
>>

> I'm thinking Tom meant for Greg to have taken Hinault
> hunting with them on the ill-fated day.

Why? Hinault might have suggested they keep hunting...

Richard Adams
  
benjo maso wrote:

> "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> schreef in
> bericht news:fNmzc.372$w07.200@newsread2.news.pas.earthli-
> nk.net...
>
>>Lance has 5, Lemond has a virtual 5. Eddy claims in
>>Bicycling magazine he could have had 2 more, in '68, '73
>>two years he didn't participate when he was in top form,
>>giving him a virtual 7. Anquetil claims he had a virtual
>>6. Lance only claims 5. Hinault would have had a virtual
>> 6 if it wasn't for that selfish Greg.
>>
>>Lance needs 8 to be the undisputed King of all times.
>
>
>
> Bartali had a virtual 10, at the very least.
>
> Benjo Maso

Don't think very much of Coppi, do you?

Ryan Cousineau
  
In article <calsju$gud@dispatch.concentric.net>,
Richard Adams <ackthpt@concentric.net> wrote:

> benjo maso wrote:
>
> > "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> schreef in
> > bericht news:fNmzc.372$w07.200@newsread2.news.pas.earth-
> > link.net...
> >
> >>Lance has 5, Lemond has a virtual 5. Eddy claims in
> >>Bicycling magazine he could have had 2 more, in '68, '73
> >>two years he didn't participate when he was in top form,
> >>giving him a virtual 7. Anquetil claims he had a virtual
> >>6. Lance only claims 5. Hinault would have had a
> >> virtual 6 if it wasn't for that selfish Greg.
> >>
> >>Lance needs 8 to be the undisputed King of all times.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bartali had a virtual 10, at the very least.
> >
> > Benjo Maso
>
> Don't think very much of Coppi, do you?

Lance gets a virtual 7 right now, because he had at least
two years of top form removed along with the other bits of
him that cancer got.

I have a virtual win at the World Tuesday Night
Championships Novice Men's race series,

--
Ryan Cousineau, rcousine@sfu.ca
http://www.sfu.ca/~rcousine/wiredcola/ President, Fabrizio
Mazzoleni Fan Club

Benjo Maso
  
"Richard Adams" <ackthpt@concentric.net> schreef in bericht
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> benjo maso wrote:
>
> > "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> schreef in
> > bericht news:fNmzc.372$w07.200@newsread2.news.pas.earth-
> > link.net...
> >
> >>Lance has 5, Lemond has a virtual 5. Eddy claims in
> >>Bicycling magazine
he
> >>could have had 2 more, in '68, '73 two years he didn't
> >>participate when
he
> >>was in top form, giving him a virtual 7. Anquetil claims
> >>he had a
virtual
> >>6. Lance only claims 5. Hinault would have had a
> >> virtual 6 if it
wasn't
> >>for that selfish Greg.
> >>
> >>Lance needs 8 to be the undisputed King of all times.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bartali had a virtual 10, at the very least.
> >
> > Benjo Maso
>
> Don't think very much of Coppi, do you?

Coppi has a virtual 5 or 6. But I'm not so sure he could
have beaten Bartali before 1949. That's not just my personal
opinion. Goddet has said that during the war years Bartali
would have been more or less invincible. And according to
Binda Coppi could never have won the Tour of 1948.

Benjo Maso

Tom Nakashima
  
"Carl Sundquist" <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Clovis Lark" <clark@steel.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote in
> message news:calblv$4nh$4@hood.uits.indiana.edu...
> > Tom Nakashima <tom@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
> >
> > >>
> > > Or LeMond could have won 7 if it wasn't for Hinault's
> > > selfishness, or
> was it
> > > Greg's stupidity for not knowing when badger season
> > > was. -tom
> >
> > Turkey season. That's what's so special about it...
> >
>
> I'm thinking Tom meant for Greg to have taken Hinault
> hunting with them on the ill-fated day.
>

Exactly what I meant, glad someone else understands
Liggettism. -tom

Tom Nakashima
  
"Clovis Lark" <clark@steel.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote in message
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> Carl Sundquist <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote:
>
> > "Clovis Lark" <clark@steel.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote in
> > message news:calblv$4nh$4@hood.uits.indiana.edu...
> >> Tom Nakashima <tom@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> > "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> wrote in
> >> > message news:fNmzc.372$w07.200@newsread2.news.pas.ea-
> >> > rthlink.net...
> >> >> Lance has 5, Lemond has a virtual 5. Eddy claims in
> >> >> Bicycling
magazine
> > he
> >> >> could have had 2 more, in '68, '73 two years he
> >> >> didn't participate
when
> > he
> >> >> was in top form, giving him a virtual 7. Anquetil
> >> >> claims he had a
> > virtual
> >> >> 6. Lance only claims 5. Hinault would have had a
> >> >> virtual 6 if it
> > wasn't
> >> >> for that selfish Greg.
> >> >>
> >> >> Lance needs 8 to be the undisputed King of all
> >> >> times.
> >> >>
> >> > Or LeMond could have won 7 if it wasn't for Hinault's
> >> > selfishness, or
> > was it
> >> > Greg's stupidity for not knowing when badger season
> >> > was. -tom
> >>
> >> Turkey season. That's what's so special about it...
> >>
>
> > I'm thinking Tom meant for Greg to have taken Hinault
> > hunting with them
on
> > the ill-fated day.
>
> Why? Hinault might have suggested they keep hunting...

K. J. Papai
  
Clovis Lark <clark@steel.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote in message news:<cal015$v20$5@hood.uits.indiana.edu>...
> Bob in CT <ctviggen.x@adelphia.net> wrote:
> > On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:13:15 GMT, Callistus Valerius
> > <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Lance has 5, Lemond has a virtual 5. Eddy claims in
> >> Bicycling magazine he could have had 2 more, in '68,
> >> '73 two years he didn't participate when he was in top
> >> form, giving him a virtual 7. Anquetil claims he had a
> >> virtual
> >> 6. Lance only claims 5. Hinault would have had a
> >> virtual 6 if it wasn't for that selfish Greg.
> >>
> >> Lance needs 8 to be the undisputed King of all times.
> >>
> >>
>
> > I think Lance needs 6 then needs to win the Giro five
> > times and the Vuelta a few times, a la Merckx.
>
> How about a Paris-Roubaix? A Milan-San Remo?

Those other guys though never won Tour of Georgie though!

Ken in CA

Oyvey1948
  
ken@kenpapai.com (K. J. Papai) wrote in message news:<6100cab2.0406150659.4360fd9@posting.google.com>...
> Clovis Lark <clark@steel.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote in message
> news:<cal015$v20$5@hood.uits.indiana.edu>...
> > Bob in CT <ctviggen.x@adelphia.net> wrote:
> > > On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:13:15 GMT, Callistus Valerius
> > > <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> Lance has 5, Lemond has a virtual 5. Eddy claims in
> > >> Bicycling magazine he could have had 2 more, in '68,
> > >> '73 two years he didn't participate when he was in
> > >> top form, giving him a virtual 7. Anquetil claims he
> > >> had a virtual
> > >> 6. Lance only claims 5. Hinault would have had a
> > >> virtual 6 if it wasn't for that selfish Greg.
> > >>
> > >> Lance needs 8 to be the undisputed King of all times.
> > >>
> > >>
>
> > > I think Lance needs 6 then needs to win the Giro five
> > > times and the Vuelta a few times, a la Merckx.
> >
> > How about a Paris-Roubaix? A Milan-San Remo?
>
> Those other guys though never won Tour of Georgie though!
>
> Ken in CA

Is that where you race Hincapie from bathhouse to bathhouse?

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