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Today is my daughters 11th birthday. I promised today would
be the = day..... Funny thing is I have smoked since I was
11. Lord I am 37 and = I have to do this. any
suggestions?????

I have tried, smoke away, will power, hypnotherapy, zyban,
all that I = feel is left is the padded room!

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daughters 11th = birthday. I=20 promised today
would be the day..... Funny thing is I have smoked
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11. Lord  I am 37 and I  have to do this. any=20
suggestions?????</FONT></DIV>
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<DV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> I have tried, 
smoke away, = will power,=20 hypnotherapy,
zyban,  all that I feel is left is the padded=20
room!</FONT></DIV>
<DVI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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Patch

Jennifer

Quitting smoking is one of the hardest things a person can
do. While I've not been a smoker myself, I come from a
family of smokers and have seen them and many friends
struggle, struggle and struggle over the years to free
themselves of this habit.

I know it's hard... and it's important... But for diabetics
it's even more important.

Here's some info from the ADA:

Smoking damages and constricts the blood vessels. This
damage can worsen foot ulcers and lead to blood vessel
disease and leg and foot infections. Of people with diabetes
who need amputations, 95 percent are smokers.

That really bears reading again: In all diabetics who get
amputations: 95 percent of them were smokers.

Smokers with diabetes are more likely to get neuropathy
(nerve damage) and kidney disease.

Smoking doubles your risk of getting limited joint mobility.

People with diabetes who smoke are three times as likely
to die of cardiovascular disease as are other people
with diabetes.

Smoking increases your blood pressure.

Smoking raises your blood glucose level, making it harder to
control your diabetes.

Not fun!

Jennifer

Patricia1966wa wrote:

> Today is my daughters 11th birthday. I promised today
> would be the day..... Funny thing is I have smoked since
> I was 11. Lord I am 37 and I have to do this. any
> suggestions?????
>
> I have tried, smoke away, will power, hypnotherapy,
> zyban, all that I feel is left is the padded room!
>
> Patricia who is loving the posts on this group!

Poorboy

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is my daughters 11th birthday. I promised today would be
the = day..... Funny thing is I have smoked since I was
11. Lord I am 37 and = I have to do this. any
suggestions?????

I have tried, smoke away, will power, hypnotherapy,
zyban, all that = I feel is left is the padded room!

Patricia who is loving the posts on this group!

how about this for a good reason - want to see your daughter
on her 21st = birthday ? that was my reason and i stopped
cold turkey when i was = diagnosed as diabetic - period.

--=20 poorboy

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and i stopped cold turkey when i was = diagnosed as=20
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Ceebee

"Patricia1966wa" <Patricia1966wa@comcast.net> wrote in
misc.health.diabetes:

> Today is my daughters 11th birthday. I promised today
> would be the day..... Funny thing is I have smoked since
> I was 11. Lord I am 37 and I have to do this. any
> suggestions?????

Cold turkey is not the best way to stop. You are basically
an addict, both mentally and physically. Don't underestimate
the latter.

Research shows that the best chance of stopping is with the
help of special chewing gun (best score) and a good second
those nicotine "band aids" or whaddayacallem.

And of course the people around you, supporting that mental
process. All the best of luck. If you succeed, reward
yourself with at least 5 to 10 years extra. :)

--
CeeBee

EMH Mark I: "Stop breathing down my neck." EMH Mark II: "My
breath is merely a simulation." EMH Mark I: "So is my neck.
Stop it anyway."

Simm Webb

I am sorry you had to wait this long. I smoked for 30 years,
and tried to quit many times. I found much to my surprise
that there is a way to quit, without spending money. It does
involve will power, and some help. I read the Alcoholics
Anonymous book, and was impressed with the basis of the
program. I don't drink, so I read it out of curiosity.
Anyway, one evening, after finishing a cigarette, I
discovered that the ciggie tasted like fecal matter. I
absolutely was tired of it. However, I had smoked in excess
of 2 packs a day for quite a few years. Well, I went to bed,
and hoped that the taste would go away. The next morning, I
thought to myself, I made it through the night, now let us
see if I can get along today. I never told anyone what I was
doing. Anyway, following the Alcoholic Creed, I did it one
day at a time for 6 weeks, until my wife asked me if I had
quit. I told her I was trying. It took me about 3 months
before I got over the craving, and I hate to admit, I still
get an urge now and then 15 years later. It will be your
decision, and don't punish yourself. Just pick up the pieces
and try again, until you do. Oh yes, I have to tell you,
that when I took a stress test for my heart, an ultra sound
image was made of my heart. During the process, the
technician told me that I had been a heavy smoker, and that
there was irrepairable damage to my heart. I cannot
legislate you to quit. However, I can only encourage you to
get the self discipline, and love of your daughter, and
force yourself to do so. It won't be easy at first, but if
you work at it, you will soon find yourself smoke free.

My best wishes, and may you need no stents, radiation, or
chemo.

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 11:02:00 -0700, "Patricia1966wa"
<Patricia1966wa@comcast.net> wrote:

> Today is my daughters 11th birthday. I promised today
> would be the day..... Funny thing is I have smoked since I
> was 11. Lord I am 37 and I have to do this. any
> suggestions?????
>
> I have tried, smoke away, will power, hypnotherapy, zyban,
> all that I feel is left is the padded room!
>
>Patricia who is loving the posts on this group!

Grateful to be back.

Eddie MD OTF

Julie Bove

"Patricia1966wa" <Patricia1966wa@comcast.net> wrote in
message news:vBjCc.31$%n2.49048@news.uswest.net... Today is
my daughters 11th birthday. I promised today would be the
day..... Funny thing is I have smoked since I was 11. Lord I
am 37 and I have to do this. any suggestions?????

I have tried, smoke away, will power, hypnotherapy, zyban,
all that I feel is left is the padded room!

I smoked for 27 (started at age 12) years, 2+ packs a day
towards the end. It was one of my favorite activities! Two
things that helped me to quit. Pregnancy and hypotherapy.
Obviously neither of those things worked for you. You might
try the hypotherapy one more time. I was told that it
wouldn't work unless you *really* wanted to quit. Well, I
didn't want to quit and still wish I could smoke. That's how
much I liked it! And yet it worked like a charm for me. I
did light one more cigarette after the hypnotherapy. The man
doing it said that for most people the effect wasn't
immediate. I took a few puffs on that cigarette and put it
out carefully, relighting it throughout the day. The next
day, I awoke and didn't smoke. Nor did I feel the need to.
Oh, I wanted to. But didn't need to.

It might also have helped that I managed to cut way back in
the two or three weeks before the hypnotherapy. I was
smoking those really skinny cigarettes and allowed myself
only one puff at a time. If you find this too hard to do,
you might try some of those expensive, fancy ones with the
colored papers. Not sure if you can buy them in a store, but
they can be mail ordered. I got some of those once as a
gift. They have nothing but pure tobacco and no additives in
them so they go out very quickly and need to be relit. Good
luck! I know how hard quitting can be!

--
Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/

bogus

Quit smoking. You owe it to your daughter. You owe it to
yourself. You owe it to everyone around you. You owe it to
the world. You won't regret quitting a bad habit.

"Patricia1966wa" <Patricia1966wa@comcast.net> wrote:

> Today is my daughters 11th birthday. I promised today
> would be the day..... Funny thing is I have smoked since I
> was 11. Lord I am 37 and I have to do this. any
> suggestions?????
>
> I have tried, smoke away, will power, hypnotherapy, zyban,
> all that I feel is left is the padded room!
>
>Patricia who is loving the posts on this group!

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Patricia1966wa

Thanks Patch.... See that is my fear and I to was told that.

Patricia "Patch" <bob_acord@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Patricia1966wa" <Patricia1966wa@comcast.net> wrote in
> message news:vBjCc.31$%n2.49048@news.uswest.net... Today
> is my daughters 11th birthday. I promised today would be
> the day..... Funny thing is I have smoked since I was 11.
> Lord I am 37 and I have to do this. any suggestions?????
>
> I have tried, smoke away, will power, hypnotherapy, zyban,
> all that I feel is left is the padded room!
>
> Patricia who is loving the posts on this group! < After
> smoking for 50 years, quiting was the hardest thing I've
> ever done. I did it with the "Patch". After I was
> diagnosed with diabetes, the Doc asked if I smoked, when I
> told him I had quit he said "Well, that just saved your
> feet". Good luck.

Patricia1966wa

Thanks Jennifer, I am keeping this to read when I want one :)

Patricia "Jennifer" <jenniferNOSPAM@earthlink.net> wrote in
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> Quitting smoking is one of the hardest things a person can
> do. While I've not been a smoker myself, I come from a
> family of smokers and have seen them and many friends
> struggle, struggle and struggle over the years to free
> themselves of this habit.
>
> I know it's hard... and it's important... But for
> diabetics it's even more important.
>
> Here's some info from the ADA:
>
> Smoking damages and constricts the blood vessels. This
> damage can worsen foot ulcers and lead to blood vessel
> disease and leg and foot infections. Of people with
> diabetes who need amputations, 95 percent are smokers.
>
> That really bears reading again: In all diabetics who get
> amputations: 95 percent of them were smokers.
>
> Smokers with diabetes are more likely to get neuropathy
> (nerve damage) and kidney disease.
>
> Smoking doubles your risk of getting limited joint
> mobility.
>
> People with diabetes who smoke are three times as likely
> to die of cardiovascular disease as are other people with
> diabetes.
>
> Smoking increases your blood pressure.
>
> Smoking raises your blood glucose level, making it harder
> to control your diabetes.
>
> Not fun!
>
> Jennifer
>
> Patricia1966wa wrote:
>
>> Today is my daughters 11th birthday. I promised today
>> would be the day..... Funny thing is I have smoked since
>> I was 11. Lord I am 37 and I have to do this. any
>> suggestions????? I have tried, smoke away, will power,
>> hypnotherapy, zyban, all that I feel is left is the
>> padded room! Patricia who is loving the posts on this
>> group!

Patricia1966wa

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That is the best reason. Thank you.

Patricia "poorboy" <spamsucks@garbage.com> wrote in message
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"Patricia1966wa" <Patricia1966wa@comcast.net> wrote in
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Today is my daughters 11th birthday. I promised today
would be the = day..... Funny thing is I have smoked
since I was 11. Lord I am 37 and = I have to do this.
any suggestions?????

I have tried, smoke away, will power, hypnotherapy,
zyban, all = that I feel is left is the padded room!

Patricia who is loving the posts on this group!

how about this for a good reason - want to see your
daughter on her = 21st birthday ? that was my reason
and i stopped cold turkey when i was = diagnosed as
diabetic - period.

--=20 poorboy

age 38 t2 diagnosed 4/2003=20 D & E w/ 7.5 mg actos ------
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<DX><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Today is my
daughters 11th = birthday. I=20 promised today
would be the day..... Funny thing is I have
smoked = since I=20 was 11. Lord  I am 37
and I  have to do this. any=20
suggestions?????</FONT></DIV>
<DXI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DXII><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> I have
tried,  smoke = away, will=20 power,
hypnotherapy, zyban,  all that I feel is
left is the = padded=20 room!</FONT></DIV>
<DXIII><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DXIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Patricia who is
loving the posts on = this=20 group!</FONT></DIV>
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<DXVIII>how about this for a good reason - want to see
your daughter on = her 21st=20 birthday ? that was
my reason and i stopped cold turkey when i was =
diagnosed=20 as diabetic - period.<BR><BR>--
<BR>poorboy<BR><BR>age 38 t2  = diagnosed=20
4/2003 <BR>D & E w/ 7.5 mg=20 actos</DIV></DIV></DIV>-
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Patricia1966wa

Thank you. Patricia
"CeeBee" <ceebeechester@start.com.au> wrote in message
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> "Patricia1966wa" <Patricia1966wa@comcast.net> wrote in
> misc.health.diabetes:
>
>> Today is my daughters 11th birthday. I promised today
>> would be the day..... Funny thing is I have smoked since
>> I was 11. Lord I am 37 and I have to do this. any
>> suggestions?????
>
>
> Cold turkey is not the best way to stop. You are basically
> an addict, both mentally and physically. Don't
> underestimate the latter.
>
> Research shows that the best chance of stopping is with
> the help of special chewing gun (best score) and a good
> second those nicotine "band aids" or whaddayacallem.
>
> And of course the people around you, supporting that
> mental process. All the best of luck. If you succeed,
> reward yourself with at least 5 to 10 years extra. :)
>
>
>
> --
> CeeBee
>
>
> EMH Mark I: "Stop breathing down my neck." EMH Mark II:
> "My breath is merely a simulation." EMH Mark I: "So is my
> neck. Stop it anyway."

Patricia1966wa

I am familiar with AA. I went for a long time, I am not a
drinker haven't been for over 8 years , but I lived with one
my entire life one way or the other... I have many of the
books that I can read for landing. I didn't even think about
it. Thank you very much. for sharing your story and a piece
of your life. It is a huge one.

Patricia

. "Simm Webb" <edvanhuffel@cox.net> wrote in message
news:tqckd0poqmrr1mumv86j5qrebeob30b432@4ax.com...
>I am sorry you had to wait this long. I smoked for 30
>years, and tried to quit many times. I found much to my
>surprise that there is a way to quit, without spending
>money. It does involve will power, and some help. I read
>the Alcoholics Anonymous book, and was impressed with the
>basis of the program. I don't drink, so I read it out of
>curiosity. Anyway, one evening, after finishing a
>cigarette, I discovered that the ciggie tasted like fecal
>matter. I absolutely was tired of it. However, I had smoked
>in excess of 2 packs a day for quite a few years. Well, I
>went to bed, and hoped that the taste would go away. The
>next morning, I thought to myself, I made it through the
>night, now let us see if I can get along today. I never
>told anyone what I was doing. Anyway, following the
>Alcoholic Creed, I did it one day at a time for 6 weeks,
>until my wife asked me if I had quit. I told her I was
>trying. It took me about 3 months before I got over the
>craving, and I hate to admit, I still get an urge now and
>then 15 years later. It will be your decision, and don't
>punish yourself. Just pick up the pieces and try again,
>until you do. Oh yes, I have to tell you, that when I took
>a stress test for my heart, an ultra sound image was made
>of my heart. During the process, the technician told me
>that I had been a heavy smoker, and that there was
>irrepairable damage to my heart. I cannot legislate you to
>quit. However, I can only encourage you to get the self
>discipline, and love of your daughter, and force yourself
>to do so. It won't be easy at first, but if you work at it,
>you will soon find yourself smoke free.
>
> My best wishes, and may you need no stents, radiation,
> or chemo.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 11:02:00 -0700, "Patricia1966wa"
> <Patricia1966wa@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Today is my daughters 11th birthday. I promised today
>> would be the day..... Funny thing is I have smoked since
>> I was 11. Lord I am 37 and I have to do this. any
>> suggestions?????
>>
>> I have tried, smoke away, will power, hypnotherapy,
>> zyban, all that I feel is left is the padded room!
>>
>>Patricia who is loving the posts on this group!
>
>
>
> Grateful to be back.
>
> Eddie MD OTF

Patricia1966wa

Thanks Julie, I will give it another try. It calms me
anyways so it can't hurt.

Thanks for telling me this. Patricia "Julie Bove"
<jnospambove@bestweb.net> wrote in message
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>
>
>
>
> "Patricia1966wa" <Patricia1966wa@comcast.net> wrote in
> message news:vBjCc.31$%n2.49048@news.uswest.net... Today
> is my daughters 11th birthday. I promised today would be
> the day..... Funny thing is I have smoked since I was 11.
> Lord I am 37 and I have to do this. any suggestions?????
>
> I have tried, smoke away, will power, hypnotherapy, zyban,
> all that I feel is left is the padded room!
>
> I smoked for 27 (started at age 12) years, 2+ packs a day
> towards the end. It was one of my favorite activities! Two
> things that helped me to quit. Pregnancy and hypotherapy.
> Obviously neither of those things worked for you. You
> might try the hypotherapy one more time. I was told that
> it wouldn't work unless you *really* wanted to quit. Well,
> I didn't want to quit and still wish I could smoke. That's
> how much I liked it! And yet it worked like a charm for
> me. I did light one more cigarette after the hypnotherapy.
> The man doing it said that for most people the effect
> wasn't immediate. I took a few puffs on that cigarette and
> put it out carefully, relighting it throughout the day.
> The next day, I awoke and didn't smoke. Nor did I feel the
> need to. Oh, I wanted to. But didn't need to.
>
> It might also have helped that I managed to cut way back
> in the two or three weeks before the hypnotherapy. I was
> smoking those really skinny cigarettes and allowed myself
> only one puff at a time. If you find this too hard to do,
> you might try some of those expensive, fancy ones with the
> colored papers. Not sure if you can buy them in a store,
> but they can be mail ordered. I got some of those once as
> a gift. They have nothing but pure tobacco and no
> additives in them so they go out very quickly and need to
> be relit. Good luck! I know how hard quitting can be!
>
> --
> Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/