Compact frame sizeing

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I am going to buy a new Lemond Nevada City with the compact
frame but the salesman at the department store seems to want
to size it like a regular frame bike...2 fingers fitting
under the crotch. I am 5'8" and this puts me with a 57CM
frame...I think a much smaller frame is in order...nothing
on the Lemond website, any suggestions on how to properly
size this myself? thanks. TG

TG wrote:
> I am going to buy a new Lemond Nevada City with the
> compact frame but the salesman at the department store
> seems to want to size it like a regular frame bike...2
> fingers fitting under the crotch. I am 5'8" and this puts
> me with a 57CM frame...I think a much smaller frame is in
> order...nothing on the Lemond website, any suggestions on
> how to properly size this myself? thanks. TG

I'd be more concerned about that salesman and his two
fingers!!!

Bill "thought Lemonds ran BIG (meaning an even smaller size
than expected)"
S.

On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 09:13:38 -0600, "TG" <ab7rs@arrl.netnospam> wrote
in message <10dtp6nj42gef12@corp.supernews.com>:

>I am going to buy a new Lemond Nevada City with the compact
>frame but the salesman at the department store seems to
>want to size it like a regular frame bike...2 fingers
>fitting under the crotch.

Sounds like the guy knows nothing. I would be reluctant to
spend that much on a bike without a fit program check, or at
the very least talking to someone who sells road racing
bikes for a living and knows what will fit (my LBS has an
entire floor for road bikes and a dedicated road race
specialist).

Guy
--
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88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at
Washington University

You probably don't live in a huge state with a population
under 1 million, Montana. I did find what I needed
though, thanks.

"Just zis Guy, you know?" <outlook.bugs@microsoft.com> wrote
in message
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> On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 09:13:38 -0600, "TG"
> <ab7rs@arrl.netnospam> wrote in message
> <10dtp6nj42gef12@corp.supernews.com>:
>
> >I am going to buy a new Lemond Nevada City with the
> >compact frame but the salesman at the department store
> >seems to want to size it like a regular frame bike...2
> >fingers fitting under the crotch.
>
> Sounds like the guy knows nothing. I would be reluctant to
> spend that much on a bike without a fit program check, or
> at the very least talking to someone who sells road racing
> bikes for a living and knows what will fit (my LBS has an
> entire floor for road bikes and a dedicated road race
> specialist).
>
> Guy
> --
> May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle
> after posting. http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk (http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/)
>
> 88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at
> Washington University

I used my own fingers. The frames they call "compact frames"
run big if you size them like a frame with a horizontal top
tube but if you imagine where a horizontal tube would end up
under your but the numbers match....OR, the sloped tube
bikes are sized as if an invisible horizontal tube is there.
The point is a smaller, stronger, lighter frame. I picked up
the bike today and love it! TG

"S o r n i" <sorni@bite-me.san.rr.com> wrote in message
news:VoEDc.3416$ju5.340@twister.socal.rr.com...
> TG wrote:
> > I am going to buy a new Lemond Nevada City with the
> > compact frame but the salesman at the department store
> > seems to want to size it like a regular frame bike...2
> > fingers fitting under the crotch. I am 5'8" and this
> > puts me with a 57CM frame...I think a much smaller
> > frame is in order...nothing on the Lemond website, any
> > suggestions on how to properly size this myself?
> > thanks. TG
>
> I'd be more concerned about that salesman and his two
> fingers!!!
>
> Bill "thought Lemonds ran BIG (meaning an even smaller
> size than
expected)"
> S.

TG wrote (note top-post moved for semblance of clarity):

> "S o r n i" <sorni@bite-me.san.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:VoEDc.3416$ju5.340@twister.socal.rr.com...
>> TG wrote:
>>> I am going to buy a new Lemond Nevada City with the
>>> compact frame but the salesman at the department store
>>> seems to want to size it like a regular frame bike...2
>>> fingers fitting under the crotch. I am 5'8" and this
>>> puts me with a 57CM frame...I think a much smaller
>>> frame is in order...nothing on the Lemond website, any
>>> suggestions on how to properly size this myself?
>>> thanks. TG
>>
>> I'd be more concerned about that salesman and his two
>> fingers!!!
>>
>> Bill "thought Lemonds ran BIG (meaning an even smaller
>> size than expected)" S.

> I used my own fingers. The frames they call "compact
> frames" run big if you size them like a frame with a
> horizontal top tube but if you imagine where a horizontal
> tube would end up under your but the numbers match....OR,
> the sloped tube bikes are sized as if an invisible
> horizontal tube is there. The point is a smaller,
> stronger, lighter frame. I picked up the bike today and
> love it! TG

Glad you like the bike -- maybe they'll have a sale on
senses of humor next week! :)

My only point about Lemonds was this: my choice came down to
a Klein Q-carbon Team and the entry-level ti Lemond (both
compact frames). I bought a 55-cm Klein, whereas the equivalent-
feeling Lemond was a 53. You indicated that you thought a
57-cm LM was way too big, and since you're 5'8" I would tend
to agree. (I'm 5-10, btw.)

Did you get the 57???

Bill "ride it long and happily" S.

On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 19:56:16 -0600, "TG" <ab7rs@arrl.netnospam> wrote
in message <10duurlhj9nu9e1@corp.supernews.com>:

>You probably don't live in a huge state with a population
>under 1 million, Montana.

This is true. I live in a town of roughly 200,000
population. which is 40 miles from London. We are very
unusual in having a newly-refurbished velodrome.

However...

Plenty of smaller bike shops have bike fit measuring
systems.

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after
posting. http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk (http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/)

88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at
Washington University

In article <10dtp6nj42gef12@corp.supernews.com>,
ab7rs@arrl.netnospam says...
>
>
>I am going to buy a new Lemond Nevada City with the compact
>frame but the salesman at the department store seems to
>want to size it like a regular frame bike...2 fingers
>fitting under the crotch. I am 5'8" and this puts me with a
>57CM frame...I think a much smaller frame is in
>order...nothing on the Lemond website, any suggestions on
>how to properly size this myself? thanks. TG

Go by virtual top tube length.
------------
Alex

"TG" <ab7rs@arrl.netnospam> wrote in message
news:10dtp6nj42gef12@corp.supernews.com...
> I am going to buy a new Lemond Nevada City with the
> compact frame but the salesman at the department store
> seems to want to size it like a regular frame bike...

Lemonds are sold at department stores?

I got a 53 standard (not long or WIDE as Lemond calls it).

"S o r n i" <sorni@bite-me.san.rr.com> wrote in message
news:0gMDc.5706$ju5.1868@twister.socal.rr.com...
> TG wrote (note top-post moved for semblance of clarity):
>
> > "S o r n i" <sorni@bite-me.san.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:VoEDc.3416$ju5.340@twister.socal.rr.com...
> >> TG wrote:
> >>> I am going to buy a new Lemond Nevada City with the
> >>> compact frame but the salesman at the department store
> >>> seems to want to size it like a regular frame bike...2
> >>> fingers fitting under the crotch. I am 5'8" and this
> >>> puts me with a 57CM frame...I think a much smaller
> >>> frame is in order...nothing on the Lemond website, any
> >>> suggestions on how to properly size this myself?
> >>> thanks. TG
> >>
> >> I'd be more concerned about that salesman and his two
> >> fingers!!!
> >>
> >> Bill "thought Lemonds ran BIG (meaning an even smaller
> >> size than expected)" S.
>
> > I used my own fingers. The frames they call "compact
> > frames" run big if you size them like a frame with a
> > horizontal top tube but if you imagine where a
> > horizontal tube would end up under your but the numbers
> > match....OR, the sloped tube bikes are sized as if an
> > invisible horizontal tube is there. The point is a
> > smaller, stronger, lighter frame. I picked up the bike
> > today and love it! TG
>
> Glad you like the bike -- maybe they'll have a sale on
> senses of humor
next
> week! :)
>
> My only point about Lemonds was this: my choice came down
> to a Klein Q-carbon Team and the entry-level ti Lemond
> (both compact frames). I
bought
> a 55-cm Klein, whereas the equivalent-feeling Lemond was a
> 53. You indicated that you thought a 57-cm LM was way too
> big, and since you're
5'8"
> I would tend to agree. (I'm 5-10, btw.)
>
> Did you get the 57???
>
> Bill "ride it long and happily" S.

TG wrote:
> I got a 53 standard (not long or WIDE as Lemond calls it).

Good. Now stop top-posting.

Bill "and work on that sense of humor, please!" S.