Honda CRV and Spare Wheel bike carrier?

[Tumbleweed]

Anyone here got any experience with this type of cycle carrier with a Honda
CRV (or similar, Freelander maybe)?
http://www.roof-rack-supplies.co.uk/cycle-carrier-4x4-ranger.htm

TIA

Tumbleweed
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[Andy Hewitt]

Tumbleweed <thisaccountneverread@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Anyone here got any experience with this type of cycle
> carrier with a Honda CRV (or similar, Freelander maybe)?
> http://www.roof-rack-supplies.co.uk/cycle-carrier-4x4-
> ranger.htm

Interesting idea I must admit. However, I can see a number
of pitfalls with it.

Firstly, historically putting too much weight on a rear door
like this does tend to wear the hinges faster. I wouldn't
like to say whether the mounting for the spare wheel would
cope with the extra weight of a couple of bike, especially
when you consider the extra leverage involved.

Lastly, what holds the bikes up should you get a puncture?

I actually work in a Honda dealer, I could find out what
Honda say if you want me too.

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[Tumbleweed]

"Andy Hewitt" <hairy.biker@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:1gg3zbt.oxep2en0s8xgN%hairy.biker@spamcop.net...
> Tumbleweed <thisaccountneverread@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Anyone here got any experience with this type of cycle
> > carrier with a
Honda
> > CRV (or similar, Freelander maybe)? http://www.roof-rack-supplies.co.uk/cycle-carrier-4x4-
> > ranger.htm
>
> Interesting idea I must admit. However, I can see a number
> of pitfalls with it.
>
> Firstly, historically putting too much weight on a rear
> door like this does tend to wear the hinges faster. I
> wouldn't like to say whether the mounting for the spare
> wheel would cope with the extra weight of a couple of
> bike, especially when you consider the extra leverage
> involved.

The leverage isnt against the hinges so I would think it
ought to be OK? (ie its pulling from the top while the
hinges and lock are on the sides of the door rather than
the top). The way the rear wheel mount is fixed to the door
certainly looks and feels pretty substantial. You might be
able to lessen any leverage with straps going up to the
roof bars.

>
> Lastly, what holds the bikes up should you get a puncture?

Good point. The old wheel I suppose? Depends how much it
depends on the wheel being fully inflated or just there,
and how much adjustment you have. I just dont fancy lifting
bikes onto the roof of the CRV due to its height, over time
chances of damage (to me or the car) might be greater due
to an accident putting the bikes on the roof, than hinge
wear (if any).

>
> I actually work in a Honda dealer, I could find out what
> Honda say if you want me too.
>

Yes please I havent looked at the Honda site but assumed all
they did was the standard roof carrier.

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[Andy Hewitt]

Tumbleweed <thisaccountneverread@yahoo.com> wrote:

<Snipped Text>
> > Firstly, historically putting too much weight on a rear
> > door like this does tend to wear the hinges faster. I
> > wouldn't like to say whether the mounting for the spare
> > wheel would cope with the extra weight of a couple of
> > bike, especially when you consider the extra leverage
> > involved.
>
> The leverage isnt against the hinges so I would think it
> ought to be OK? (ie its pulling from the top while the
> hinges and lock are on the sides of the door rather than
> the top). The way the rear wheel mount is fixed to the
> door certainly looks and feels pretty substantial. You
> might be able to lessen any leverage with straps going up
> to the roof bars.

Of course I meant to make it clear that it was leverage on
the spare wheel mount. However, yes putting some straps up
to the roof bars would help.

> > Lastly, what holds the bikes up should you get a
> > puncture?
>
> Good point. The old wheel I suppose? Depends how much it
> depends on the wheel being fully inflated or just there,
> and how much adjustment you have. I just dont fancy
> lifting bikes onto the roof of the CRV due to its height,
> over time chances of damage (to me or the car) might be
> greater due to an accident putting the bikes on the roof,
> than hinge wear (if any).

Hmmm, the picture of the rack on the web site does seem to
indicate the carrier is using the tyre itself for support.
Obviously the carrier isn't going to be as secure on a
deflated tyre.

> > I actually work in a Honda dealer, I could find out what
> > Honda say if you want me too.
> >
>
> Yes please I havent looked at the Honda site but assumed
> all they did was the standard roof carrier.

Not sure, I'll have a look for you tomorrow.

Cheers.

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[Simon Brooke]

in message <2kb4jcFabt3U1@uni-berlin.de>, Tumbleweed
('thisaccountneverread@yahoo.com') wrote:

> Anyone here got any experience with this type of cycle
> carrier with a Honda CRV (or similar, Freelander maybe)?
> http://www.roof-rack-supplies.co.uk/cycle-carrier-4x4-
> ranger.htm

I use a very similar carrier on a Vauxhall Frontera. It
works. There's a minor problem that if you don't tighten the
strap that goes round the spare tyre REALLY HARD the rack
can slip round the wheel, but it's never slipped more than a
few degrees and if you are using your mirrors properly
you'll notice pretty quickly.

When we're out with bikes the value of the bikes usually
greatly exceeds the value of the truck, so if the bikes were
at any risk I wouldn't use
it.

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[Simon Brooke]

in message <2kbc6eFd0hsU1@uni-berlin.de>, Tumbleweed
('thisaccountneverread@yahoo.com') wrote:

> Good point. The old wheel I suppose? Depends how much it
> depends on the wheel being fully inflated or just there,
> and how much adjustment you have. I just dont fancy
> lifting bikes onto the roof of the CRV due to its height,
> over time chances of damage (to me or the car) might be
> greater due to an accident putting the bikes on the roof,
> than hinge wear (if any).

Our truck has now done over 100,000 miles and has had bikes
on the back a goodly portion of that. The back door has
dropped about a millimetre at the latch end, but I would
have thought it probably would have anyway over that
lifetime. It's also, despite having done a fair few of those
miles off road, never had a serious puncture (it's had slow
leaks now and again), and in the whole lifetime of the
vehicle we've never had to change a wheel at the side of the
road. It's also never had a breakdown of any kind.

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