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Hold My Beer An
  
All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine sample
every day of the tour, to be frozen for testing at any point
in the future (e.g., when more sensitive tests for whatever
potential product that anyone suggests that he might be
taking become available).

Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all the
other contenders to do the same.

gntlmn
  
Originally posted by Hold My Beer An
All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine sample
every day of the tour, to be frozen for testing at any point
in the future (e.g., when more sensitive tests for whatever
potential product that anyone suggests that he might be
taking become available).

Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all the
other contenders to do the same.

Sounds like a great idea. I wonder if they keep any samples currently--blood or urine.

Steve
  
On 6/28/04 4:32 PM, in article 5ZGdndisrqpPBn3dRVn-sQ@dejazzd.com, "hold my
beer and watch this..." <trdina@dejazzd.com> wrote:

>
> All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine
> sample every day of the tour, to be frozen for testing at
> any point in the future (e.g., when more sensitive tests
> for whatever potential product that anyone suggests that
> he might be taking become available).
>
> Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all the
> other contenders to do the same.
>
>
>

That's it!!

A piss off contest!!

Charlie C.
  
"hold my beer and watch this..." <trdina@dejazzd.com> wrote in
news:5ZGdndisrqpPBn3dRVn-sQ@dejazzd.com:

>
> All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine
> sample every day of the tour, to be frozen for testing at
> any point in the future
> (e.g., when more sensitive tests for whatever potential
> product that anyone suggests that he might be taking
> become available).
>
> Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all the
> other contenders to do the same.
>
>
>

Actually he sort of already has to do this. If he wins a
stage he has to submit a sample and random riders are picked
after each stage to submit a sample. "They" already have
PLENTY of Lance's blood on file.

L G
  
"Steve" <sdsteve@REMOVEsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:BD05ECAF.30854%sdsteve@REMOVEsbcglobal.net...
> On 6/28/04 4:32 PM, in article 5ZGdndisrqpPBn3dRVn-
> sQ@dejazzd.com, "hold
my
> beer and watch this..." <trdina@dejazzd.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine
> > sample every day of
the
> > tour, to be frozen for testing at any point in the
> > future (e.g., when
more
> > sensitive tests for whatever potential product that
> > anyone suggests that
he
> > might be taking become available).
> >
> > Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all
> > the other
contenders to
> > do the same.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> That's it!!
>
> A piss off contest!!

LA could always sell the samples later as souvenirs on eBay.

Carl Sundquist
  
"Charlie C." <charliec1_nospam@excite.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9516B82C219E1charliec1nospamexcit@130.133.1.4...
> "hold my beer and watch this..." <trdina@dejazzd.com>
> wrote in news:5ZGdndisrqpPBn3dRVn-sQ@dejazzd.com:
>
> >
> > All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine
> > sample every day of the tour, to be frozen for testing
> > at any point in the future
> > (e.g., when more sensitive tests for whatever potential
> > product that anyone suggests that he might be
> > taking become available).
> >
> > Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all the
> > other contenders to do the same.
> >
> >
> >
>
> Actually he sort of already has to do this. If he wins a
> stage he has to submit a sample and random riders are
> picked after each stage to submit a sample. "They" already
> have PLENTY of Lance's blood on file.

No, if anything, they have plenty of LANCE's _urine_ on
file.

Stewart Fleming
  
Steve wrote:

> On 6/28/04 4:32 PM, in article 5ZGdndisrqpPBn3dRVn-
> sQ@dejazzd.com, "hold my beer and watch this..."
> <trdina@dejazzd.com> wrote:
>
>
>>All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine
>>sample every day of the tour, to be frozen for testing at
>>any point in the future (e.g., when more sensitive tests
>>for whatever potential product that anyone suggests that
>>he might be taking become available).
>>
>>Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all the
>>other contenders to do the same.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> That's it!!
>
> A piss off contest!!

What do they call the tie-breaker in a beauty contest again?
Hint: Ask **** Cheney.

Chris
  
"gntlmn" <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
news:Zq1Ec.21954$cl6.4849@fe29.usenetserver.com...
> Hold My Beer An wrote:
> > All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine
> > sample every day
of
> > the tour, to be frozen for testing at any point in the
> > future (e.g., when more sensitive tests for whatever
> > potential product that anyone suggests that he might
> > be taking become available). Then (if he really was
> > clean) he could challenge all the other contenders to
> > do the same.
>
>
>
> Sounds like a great idea. I wonder if they keep any
> samples currently-- blood or urine.

IIRC the Tour de France organization now stores the blood
samples from the in competition tests that they perform.

>
>
>
> --

Dave H
  
"gntlmn" <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
news:Zq1Ec.21954$cl6.4849@fe29.usenetserver.com...
> Hold My Beer An wrote:
> > All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine
> > sample every day
of
> > the tour, to be frozen for testing at any point in the
> > future (e.g., when more sensitive tests for whatever
> > potential product that anyone suggests that he might
> > be taking become available). Then (if he really was
> > clean) he could challenge all the other contenders to
> > do the same.
>
>
>
> Sounds like a great idea. I wonder if they keep any
> samples currently-- blood or urine.

Felcia Ballanger Former World/Olympic champion, retired
and now back riding again, has had samples of her blood
and urine from her previous racing days frozen for just
this reason

Dave

Bob Schwartz
  
Carl Sundquist <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote:

> "Charlie C." <charliec1_nospam@excite.com> wrote in
> message
> news:Xns9516B82C219E1charliec1nospamexcit@130.133.1.4...
>> "hold my beer and watch this..." <trdina@dejazzd.com>
>> wrote in news:5ZGdndisrqpPBn3dRVn-sQ@dejazzd.com:
>>
>> >
>> > All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine
>> > sample every day of the tour, to be frozen for testing
>> > at any point in the future
>> > (e.g., when more sensitive tests for whatever potential
>> > product that anyone suggests that he might be
>> > taking become available).
>> >
>> > Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all
>> > the other contenders to do the same.
>> >
>>
>> Actually he sort of already has to do this. If he wins a
>> stage he has to submit a sample and random riders are
>> picked after each stage to submit a sample. "They"
>> already have PLENTY of Lance's blood on file.

> No, if anything, they have plenty of LANCE's _urine_
> on file.

No, if anything they have plenty of spectra from LANCE's
urine on file. I don't think testing sensitivity is the
issue so much as knowing what to look for.

Bob Schwartz cvcc@execpc.com

Who sure as hell wouldn't stockpile urine around HIS lab.

Carl Sundquist
  
"L G" <void@invalid.com> wrote in message > > >
> > > All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine
> > > sample every day
of
> the
> > > tour, to be frozen for testing at any point in the
> > > future (e.g., when
> more
> > > sensitive tests for whatever potential product that
> > > anyone suggests
that
> he
> > > might be taking become available).
> > >
> > > Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all
> > > the other
> contenders to
> > > do the same.
> > >
> >
> > That's it!!
> >
> > A piss off contest!!
>
> LA could always sell the samples later as souvenirs
> on eBay.
>

Do you think they would go for more than his junior high
school love note went for?

Richard Adams
  
Steve wrote:

> On 6/28/04 4:32 PM, in article 5ZGdndisrqpPBn3dRVn-
> sQ@dejazzd.com, "hold my beer and watch this..."
> <trdina@dejazzd.com> wrote:
>
>
>>All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine
>>sample every day of the tour, to be frozen for testing at
>>any point in the future (e.g., when more sensitive tests
>>for whatever potential product that anyone suggests that
>>he might be taking become available).
>>
>>Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all the
>>other contenders to do the same.
>
> That's it!!
>
> A piss off contest!!

They could certainly learn from the pros on rbr, where
there's a pissing contest always going on.

Roland2k
  
"hold my beer and watch this..." <trdina@dejazzd.com> wrote in message news:<5ZGdndisrqpPBn3dRVn-sQ@dejazzd.com>...
> All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine
> sample every day of the tour, to be frozen for testing at
> any point in the future (e.g., when more sensitive tests
> for whatever potential product

...provided that product was detectable in urine...

> that anyone suggests that he might be taking become
> available).
>
> Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all the
> other contenders to do the same.

Chew on this: How wrong is the world when the right answer
is frozen urine?

And finally, should it come to that, and the cyclists are
found clean, the instigators, antagonists, and prosecutors
should be made to eat a wee-wee snow cone.

Roland

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