T-Mobile leaves Salvodelli at home for the Tour?

[Chris]

What happened? I thought he was on track to make the Tour
team. He would have been a great all round support rider for
Ullrich if his form would be good. I did not hear any recent
news. Not only would he be an excellent tempo rider up the
hills, he would provide what Ullrich needs the most
(apparently), a guide *down* the cols to pick a good live
through the corners that give Jan so much trouble.

[Carl Sundquist]

"Chris" <chrismcreynolds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40e0cf22$0$34740$812600b3@news.nntpaccess.com...
> What happened? I thought he was on track to make the Tour
> team. He would have been a great all round support rider
> for Ullrich if his form would be good. I did not hear any
> recent news. Not only would he be an excellent tempo rider
> up the hills, he would provide what Ullrich needs the most
> (apparently), a guide *down* the cols to pick a good live
> through the corners that give Jan so much trouble.
>
>

Since you mention his descending skills, it made me wonder:
how did Evans survive as a mountain biker, only to break in
to pieces as a road rider? Is dirt really that much softer?

[Sonarrat]

in article 40e0cf22$0$34740$812600b3@news.nntpaccess.com, Chris at
chrismcreynolds@hotmail.com wrote on 6/28/04 7:10 PM:

> What happened? I thought he was on track to make the
> Tour team.

After being injured back in April, and not showing any of
his old form in time for the Route du Sud? I don't think
he was ever being considered this year. Look for him in
the Vuelta.

> He would have been a great all round support rider for
> Ullrich if his form would be good. I did not hear any
> recent news. Not only would he be an excellent tempo rider
> up the hills, he would provide what Ullrich needs the most
> (apparently), a guide *down* the cols to pick a good live
> through the corners that give Jan so much trouble.

You are correct about this, of course. I'm sure he would be
going if he were in decent shape, but he isn't so he
ain't... or maybe, given the alleged reason for Cadel's
exclusion, he still wouldn't. Who knows?

-Sonarrat.

[Bob Schwartz]

Chris <chrismcreynolds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> What happened? I thought he was on track to make the Tour
> team. He would have been a great all round support rider
> for Ullrich if his form would be good. I did not hear any
> recent news. Not only would he be an excellent tempo rider
> up the hills, he would provide what Ullrich needs the most
> (apparently), a guide *down* the cols to pick a good live
> through the corners that give Jan so much trouble.

It's my fault. Blame me.

I asked them to cut him because no one on rbr could spell
his name correctly and it was embarassing. I guess they took
me seriously.

Bob "Savoldelli" Schwartz cvcc@execpc.com

[Warren]

In article <10e1ku1pmnhocb8@corp.supernews.com>, Carl Sundquist
<carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote:

> "Chris" <chrismcreynolds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:40e0cf22$0$34740$812600b3@news.nntpaccess.com...
> > What happened? I thought he was on track to make the
> > Tour team. He would have been a great all round support
> > rider for Ullrich if his form would be good. I did not
> > hear any recent news. Not only would he be an excellent
> > tempo rider up the hills, he would provide what Ullrich
> > needs the most (apparently), a guide *down* the cols to
> > pick a good live through the corners that give Jan so
> > much trouble.
> >
> >
>
> Since you mention his descending skills, it made me
> wonder: how did Evans survive as a mountain biker, only to
> break in to pieces as a road rider? Is dirt really that
> much softer?

I think it's his bones that are softer.

-WG

[Richard Adams]

Bob Schwartz wrote:
> Chris <chrismcreynolds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>What happened? I thought he was on track to make the Tour
>>team. He would have been a great all round support rider
>>for Ullrich if his form would be good. I did not hear any
>>recent news. Not only would he be an excellent tempo rider
>>up the hills, he would provide what Ullrich needs the most
>>(apparently), a guide *down* the cols to pick a good live
>>through the corners that give Jan so much trouble.
>
>
> It's my fault. Blame me.
>
> I asked them to cut him because no one on rbr could spell
> his name correctly and it was embarassing. I guess they
> took me seriously.
>
> Bob "Savoldelli" Schwartz cvcc@execpc.com

S-A-L-V-O-D-I-E-R-C-K-X-S-E-N-S

[Callistus Valer]

> Since you mention his descending skills, it made me
> wonder: how did Evans survive as a mountain biker, only to
> break in to pieces as a road rider?
Is
> dirt really that much softer?
>
Cadel cartwheeling down a descent would have made
interesting Tour coverage, we'll miss him.

[Chris]

"Bob Schwartz" <cvcc@shell.core.com> wrote in message
news:10e1mtpc23n9806@corp.supernews.com...
> Chris <chrismcreynolds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > What happened? I thought he was on track to make the
> > Tour team. He would have been a great all round support
> > rider for Ullrich if his form would
be
> > good. I did not hear any recent news. Not only would he
> > be an excellent tempo rider up the hills, he would
> > provide what Ullrich needs the most (apparently), a
> > guide *down* the cols to pick a good live through the
> > corners that give Jan so much trouble.
>
> It's my fault. Blame me.
>
> I asked them to cut him because no one on rbr could spell
> his name correctly and it was embarassing. I guess they
> took me seriously.

I found his Italian web site (
http://web.tiscali.it/ilfalco/ ) with the spelling that you
indicate, so thanks for pointing that out.

>
> Bob "Savoldelli" Schwartz cvcc@execpc.com

[Sonarrat]

in article 280620042147217897%warren@usvhremove.com, warren at
warren@usvhremove.com wrote on 6/28/04 9:49 PM:

> In article <10e1ku1pmnhocb8@corp.supernews.com>, Carl
> Sundquist <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote:
>
>> "Chris" <chrismcreynolds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:40e0cf22$0$34740$812600b3@news.nntpaccess.com...
>>> What happened? I thought he was on track to make the
>>> Tour team. He would have been a great all round support
>>> rider for Ullrich if his form would be good. I did not
>>> hear any recent news. Not only would he be an excellent
>>> tempo rider up the hills, he would provide what Ullrich
>>> needs the most (apparently), a guide *down* the cols to
>>> pick a good live through the corners that give Jan so
>>> much trouble.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Since you mention his descending skills, it made me
>> wonder: how did Evans survive as a mountain biker, only
>> to break in to pieces as a road rider? Is dirt really
>> that much softer?
>
> I think it's his bones that are softer.

Nice try, but if they were softer, they would be more
difficult to break.

-Sonarrat.

[Warren]

In article <BD082601.3A95%mynick@nospam.hotmail>, Sonarrat
<mynick@nospam.hotmail> wrote:

> in article 280620042147217897%warren@usvhremove.com,
> warren at warren@usvhremove.com wrote on 6/28/04 9:49 PM:
>
> > In article <10e1ku1pmnhocb8@corp.supernews.com>, Carl
> > Sundquist <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Chris" <chrismcreynolds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:40e0cf22$0$34740$812600b3@news.nntpaccess.com...
> >>> What happened? I thought he was on track to make the
> >>> Tour team. He would have been a great all round
> >>> support rider for Ullrich if his form would be good. I
> >>> did not hear any recent news. Not only would he be an
> >>> excellent tempo rider up the hills, he would provide
> >>> what Ullrich needs the most (apparently), a guide
> >>> *down* the cols to pick a good live through the
> >>> corners that give Jan so much trouble.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Since you mention his descending skills, it made me
> >> wonder: how did Evans survive as a mountain biker, only
> >> to break in to pieces as a road rider? Is dirt really
> >> that much softer?
> >
> > I think it's his bones that are softer.
>
> Nice try, but if they were softer, they would be more
> difficult to break.

In this case, "softer" means more brittle or something else
that makes them break easier. This could be because of
repeated fractures in one area or the use of certain
medical products.

-WG

[Sonarrat]

in article 300620040810427639%warren@usvhremove.com, warren at
warren@usvhremove.com wrote on 6/30/04 8:13 AM:

> In article <BD082601.3A95%mynick@nospam.hotmail>, Sonarrat
> <mynick@nospam.hotmail> wrote:
>
>> in article 280620042147217897%warren@usvhremove.com,
>> warren at warren@usvhremove.com wrote on 6/28/04 9:49 PM:
>>
>>> In article <10e1ku1pmnhocb8@corp.supernews.com>, Carl
>>> Sundquist <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Chris" <chrismcreynolds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:40e0cf22$0$34740$812600b3@news.nntpaccess.com...
>>>>> What happened? I thought he was on track to make the
>>>>> Tour team. He would have been a great all round
>>>>> support rider for Ullrich if his form would be good. I
>>>>> did not hear any recent news. Not only would he be an
>>>>> excellent tempo rider up the hills, he would provide
>>>>> what Ullrich needs the most (apparently), a guide
>>>>> *down* the cols to pick a good live through the
>>>>> corners that give Jan so much trouble.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Since you mention his descending skills, it made me
>>>> wonder: how did Evans survive as a mountain biker, only
>>>> to break in to pieces as a road rider? Is dirt really
>>>> that much softer?
>>>
>>> I think it's his bones that are softer.
>>
>> Nice try, but if they were softer, they would be more
>> difficult to break.
>
> In this case, "softer" means more brittle or something
> else that makes them break easier. This could be because
> of repeated fractures in one area or the use of certain
> medical products.

You mean cyclists' bones aren't made out of aluminum or
carbon fiber?

-Sonarrat.

[Warren]

In article <BD082C2F.3AA1%mynick@nospam.hotmail>, Sonarrat
<mynick@nospam.hotmail> wrote:

> in article 300620040810427639%warren@usvhremove.com,
> warren at warren@usvhremove.com wrote on 6/30/04 8:13 AM:
>
> > In article <BD082601.3A95%mynick@nospam.hotmail>,
> > Sonarrat <mynick@nospam.hotmail> wrote:
> >
> >> in article 280620042147217897%warren@usvhremove.com,
> >> warren at warren@usvhremove.com wrote on 6/28/04
> >> 9:49 PM:
> >>
> >>> In article <10e1ku1pmnhocb8@corp.supernews.com>, Carl
> >>> Sundquist <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "Chris" <chrismcreynolds@hotmail.com> wrote in
> >>>> message news:40e0cf22$0$34740$812600b3@news.nntpacce-
> >>>> ss.com...
> >>>>> What happened? I thought he was on track to make the
> >>>>> Tour team. He would have been a great all round
> >>>>> support rider for Ullrich if his form would be good.
> >>>>> I did not hear any recent news. Not only would he be
> >>>>> an excellent tempo rider up the hills, he would
> >>>>> provide what Ullrich needs the most (apparently), a
> >>>>> guide *down* the cols to pick a good live through
> >>>>> the corners that give Jan so much trouble.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Since you mention his descending skills, it made me
> >>>> wonder: how did Evans survive as a mountain biker,
> >>>> only to break in to pieces as a road rider? Is dirt
> >>>> really that much softer?
> >>>
> >>> I think it's his bones that are softer.
> >>
> >> Nice try, but if they were softer, they would be more
> >> difficult to break.
> >
> > In this case, "softer" means more brittle or something
> > else that makes them break easier. This could be because
> > of repeated fractures in one area or the use of certain
> > medical products.
>
> You mean cyclists' bones aren't made out of aluminum or
> carbon fiber?

Only when they break them a month before the Olympics. A
little titanium thrown in too.

-WG

[Curtis L . Russ]

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 08:37:03 -0700, Sonarrat <mynick@nospam.hotmail>
wrote:

>You mean cyclists' bones aren't made out of aluminum or
>carbon fiber?

Well, possibly, one screw at a time. Maybe titanium is
more likely.

Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on
two wheels...