OT Disgraceful dishonesty of the most murderous kind

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> jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org wrote:

> Similarly life in eastern Europe was civilized under
> communism even though various civil liberties did
> not exist.

Tom Sherman wrote:

> Mr. Brandt's statement is in line with the comments I have
> received from several people of eastern European and
> Russian origin who grew up under the "Leninist"
> system.

http://www.gendercide.org/case_stalin.html
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE4.HTM

gwhite wrote:

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>>jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org wrote:
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>>Similarly life in eastern Europe was civilized under
>>communism even though various civil liberties did
>>not exist.
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> Tom Sherman wrote:
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>>Mr. Brandt's statement is in line with the comments I have
>> received from several people of eastern European and
>> Russian origin who grew up under the "Leninist"
>> system.
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> http://www.gendercide.org/case_stalin.html
> http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE4.HTM

Stalin was criminally insane, and his brutality was not
ideologically driven. Had the system been ideologically
fascist, the result would not have differed significantly.

In the post Stalin era, life in the Soviet Union was
civilized. While consumer goods were in short supply and
often of poor quality, no one went without the basic
necessities (unlike the US and other capitalist countries).
Freedom was certainly quite constricted, but then this has
been true of many civilizations.

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Tom Sherman – Quad City Area