Fred?

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OK, so I keep seeing references to newbies & hopeless cases
as being Freds. Here's my ignorance, right on top of the
table: Who was the original Fred, and how did this name
become associated with these folks?

(Curious)

"M Powell" <ppowellmrp@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:xshFc.2259$oD3.2251@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> OK, so I keep seeing references to newbies & hopeless
> cases as being
Freds.
> Here's my ignorance, right on top of the table: Who was
> the original Fred, and how did this name become associated
> with these folks?
>
> (Curious)
>

Yeah...and it better be good...

"M Powell" <ppowellmrp@earthlink.net> wrote in news:xshFc.2259$oD3.2251
@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:
> OK, so I keep seeing references to newbies & hopeless
> cases as being Freds. Here's my ignorance, right on top of
> the table: Who was the original Fred, and how did this
> name become associated with these folks?

Flintstone

Fred Hall <fhall1@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
> "M Powell" <ppowellmrp@earthlink.net> wrote in message ne-
> ws:xshFc.2259$oD3.2251@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> OK, so I keep seeing references to newbies & hopeless
>> cases as being
> Freds.
>> Here's my ignorance, right on top of the table: Who was
>> the original Fred, and how did this name become
>> associated with these folks?
>>
>> (Curious)
>>
>
> Yeah...and it better be good...

well, uhh, fred .. on a positive note the term is often
applied to someone who kicks your ass on a club ride wearing
knee high socks on a bike with a rack, fenders and 36 hole
wheels. it doesn't have to mean an out & out loser, tho
there's definitely been definition drift in that direction.
--
david reuteler reuteler@visi.com

"David Reuteler" <reuteler@visi.com> wrote in message
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> Fred Hall <fhall1@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
> > "M Powell" <ppowellmrp@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:xshFc.2259$oD3.2251@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.-
> > net...
> >> OK, so I keep seeing references to newbies & hopeless
> >> cases as being
> > Freds.
> >> Here's my ignorance, right on top of the table: Who was
> >> the original
Fred,
> >> and how did this name become associated with these
> >> folks?
> >>
> >> (Curious)
> >>
> >
> > Yeah...and it better be good...
>
> well, uhh, fred .. on a positive note the term is often
> applied to someone who kicks your ass on a club ride
> wearing knee high socks on a bike with a rack, fenders and
> 36 hole wheels. it doesn't have to mean an out & out
> loser, tho there's definitely been definition drift in
> that direction.
> --
> david reuteler reuteler@visi.com

Right on target! And you conjur up an image off a guy in our
area. He once did the legendary Assault on Mt. Mitchel on a
40 lb. 3-speed "beach" type bike with big chrome fenders. He
wears knee socks, shorts that are about 15 years old, a t-
shirt, an old styrofoam helmet, and he can kick anyone's ass
around on any climb around.

But regarding Freds ... I think the spelling has even
drifted. Technically, shouldn't it be Phreds?

Bob C.

jimmy <no@spam.no> wrote:

>"M Powell" <ppowellmrp@earthlink.net> wrote in
>news:xshFc.2259$oD3.2251 @newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:
>> OK, so I keep seeing references to newbies & hopeless
>> cases as being Freds. Here's my ignorance, right on top
>> of the table: Who was the original Fred, and how did this
>> name become associated with these folks?
>
>Flintstone

10 points for the lad.

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ask of life? Bicycling combined all the elements I loved" -
Adapted from a quotation by Charles Lindbergh

"psycholist" <technico@wctel.net> wrote in message news:cc4vlh$857r$1@news3.infoave.net...
>
> Right on target! And you conjur up an image off a guy in
> our area. He once did the legendary Assault on Mt. Mitchel
> on a 40 lb. 3-speed "beach" type bike with big chrome
> fenders.

You may want to get a better group to ride with, as
EVERYBODY is now climbing with carbon fibre.

On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 02:50:29 GMT, "Fabrizio Mazzoleni" <chipomarc@lfdd.ca>
from Shaw Residential Internet wrote:

>You may want to get a better group to ride with, as
>EVERYBODY is now climbing with carbon fibre.

Climbing, descending, time trialing, etc ... i'm either
wearing C12, or I'm wearing nothing at all!

--
Kevan Smith
xrinafzvgu23@lnubb.pbz

"M Powell" <ppowellmrp@earthlink.net> schreef in bericht
news:xshFc.2259$oD3.2251@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> OK, so I keep seeing references to newbies & hopeless
> cases as being
Freds.
> Here's my ignorance, right on top of the table: Who was
> the original Fred, and how did this name become associated
> with these folks?
>
> (Curious)
>
>
http://www.schwalbe.com/index.pl?bereich=produkte&einsatzbe-
reich=3&produktgruppe=9&produkt=112

Easy

"psycholist" <technico@wctel.net> wrote:

> But regarding Freds ... I think the spelling has even
> drifted. Technically, shouldn't it be Phreds?

Yes, the correct spelling is "Phred," in homage to Phred the
Terrorist. For evidence, see http://www.phred.org/

RFM

On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 02:50:29 GMT, "Fabrizio Mazzoleni"
<chipomarc@lfdd.ca> wrote:

>
>"psycholist" <technico@wctel.net> wrote in message
>news:cc4vlh$857r$1@news3.infoave.net...
>>
>> Right on target! And you conjur up an image off a guy in
>> our area. He once did the legendary Assault on Mt.
>> Mitchel on a 40 lb. 3-speed "beach" type bike with big
>> chrome fenders.
>
>You may want to get a better group to ride with, as
>EVERYBODY is now climbing with carbon fibre.

Apparently, not "everybody." lol Also apprent is that some
people don't need carbon fiber.

Michael J. Klein mklein@mousepotato.com Dasi Jen, Taoyuan
Hsien, Taiwan, ROC Please replace mousepotato with
asiancastings
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On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 23:36:16 +0000, Kevan Smith wrote:

> On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 02:50:29 GMT, "Fabrizio Mazzoleni"
> <chipomarc@lfdd.ca> from Shaw Residential Internet wrote:
>
>>You may want to get a better group to ride with, as
>>EVERYBODY is now climbing with carbon fibre.
>
>
> Climbing, descending, time trialing, etc ... i'm either
> wearing C12, or I'm wearing nothing at all!
>
>

A Fred may have a different percentage of 14Carbon in
his fibers.

Michael J. Klein wrote:
>
> Apparently, not "everybody." lol Also apprent is that some
> people don't need carbon fiber.

Right. I use grain fiber myself, usually in the form of
shredded wheat or oatmeal. Keeps things nice and regular. I
don't know how I'd eat that carbon fiber stuff, but if Fab
or others want to, they can go right ahead.

Austin
--
I'm pedaling as fast as I durn well please! There are no X
characters in my address

"Fred" is the English translation of "Fabrizzio".