View Full Version : Avelox and tendon problems
I am currently taking Avelox for an infection. This is a
pretty strong antibiotic that is in the same family of drugs
with Leviquin (sp.?). The pharmacist warned me that
strenuous activity is discouraged while taking this as it
causes tendon problems.
I may be taking the drug for as long as thirty days. I plan
to take a daily walk during that month and stop running.
Even walking up the stairs carrying a laundry basket put a
bit of strain on my calf muscles yesterday. That was a weird
feeling for me.
I was wondering if anyone else had any experience with this
drug. I need to know how long I should wait to begin running
again after I finish these antibiotics. I do not want to
take a chance on doing any damage at all.
I'm also wondering if there are any other side effects about
which I should be aware. They did tell me not to take anti-
inflammatory drugs while taking the Avelox. Michelle
Unless your doctor cannot find any other medication to treat your
infection I would not take AVELOX:
(this is from Bayer site)
AVELOX is a prescription medication that is generally well
tolerated. The most common side effects, which are usually
mild, include nausea, diarrhea, and dizziness. You should be
careful about driving or operating machinery until you are
sure AVELOX is not causing dizziness.
You should not take AVELOX if you have ever had an allergic
reaction to AVELOX or any of the other group of antibiotics
known as "quinolones," such as ciprofloxacin or
levofloxacin. You should avoid taking AVELOX if you have
been diagnosed with an abnormal heartbeat such as an
arrhythmia or are using certain medications used to treat an
abnormal heartbeat. These include quinidine, procainamide,
amiodarone, and sotalol.
>>>>>>
I took another type, Cipro, and had an immediate reaction,
what really pissed me off was that I was wearing a
marathon shirt when the doctor prescribed, we talked about
my running.
The druggist assured me there were no known
contraindications and within in hours I started having
symptons. When I went back to raise hell with the drug
store, the manager was telling me about how he had blown out
his knee while running a 10k on the same drug didn't know
about it's problems. Some symptoms don't show up for a long
time, when the tendons give way.
Runner beware! At least do your homework. (The FDA site may
be a good place to start)
Mrsg <mrsg27@comcast.net> wrote:
> Avelox
I took a course (5 days worth) for bronchitis a couple of
weeks ago.
I continued running, including some mountain ascents, but
slowly (after all i was sick...). Having a vague memory of
some antibiotics causing tendon problems, I babied my legs
for that week, and iced my achilles on general principle. I
did notice that I ran slower, felt more tired, and had a
lower heart rate while on the stuff.
I survived. However, I will tell my doc to avoid quinolones
from now on.
-- Dan
"Mrsg" <mrsg27@comcast.net> wrote in message news:W4OdnVOMecsJ8HXdRVn-
vw@comcast.com...
> I am currently taking Avelox for an infection. This is a
> pretty strong antibiotic that is in the same family of
> drugs with Leviquin (sp.?). The pharmacist warned me that
> strenuous activity is discouraged while taking this as it
> causes tendon problems.
>
> I may be taking the drug for as long as thirty days. I
> plan to take a
daily
> walk during that month and stop running. Even walking up
> the stairs carrying a laundry basket put a bit of strain
> on my calf muscles
yesterday.
> That was a weird feeling for me.
>
> I was wondering if anyone else had any experience with
> this drug. I need
to
> know how long I should wait to begin running again after I
> finish these antibiotics. I do not want to take a chance
> on doing any damage at all.
>
> I'm also wondering if there are any other side effects
> about which I
should
> be aware. They did tell me not to take anti-inflammatory
> drugs while
taking
> the Avelox. Michelle
You're both pansies. I take handfulls of those just before
every marathon, and with breakfast every day.
bobemery@bellsouth.net (Bumper) wrote in message
news:<1ggetja.104jirgg5vw8cN%bobemery@bellsouth.net>...
> Unless your doctor cannot find any other medication to
> treat your infection I would not take AVELOX:
>
> (this is from Bayer site)
>
> AVELOX is a prescription medication that is generally well
> tolerated. The most common side effects, which are usually
> mild, include nausea, diarrhea, and dizziness. You should
> be careful about driving or operating machinery until you
> are sure AVELOX is not causing dizziness.
>
> You should not take AVELOX if you have ever had an
> allergic reaction to AVELOX or any of the other group of
> antibiotics known as "quinolones," such as ciprofloxacin
> or levofloxacin. You should avoid taking AVELOX if you
> have been diagnosed with an abnormal heartbeat such as an
> arrhythmia or are using certain medications used to treat
> an abnormal heartbeat. These include quinidine,
> procainamide, amiodarone, and sotalol.
>
> >>>>>>
>
> I took another type, Cipro, and had an immediate reaction,
> what really pissed me off was that I was wearing a
> marathon shirt when the doctor prescribed, we talked about
> my running.
>
> The druggist assured me there were no known
> contraindications and within in hours I started having
> symptons. When I went back to raise hell with the drug
> store, the manager was telling me about how he had blown
> out his knee while running a 10k on the same drug didn't
> know about it's problems. Some symptoms don't show up for
> a long time, when the tendons give way.
>
> Runner beware! At least do your homework. (The FDA site
> may be a good place to start)
>
> Mrsg <mrsg27@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Avelox
Bumper <bobemery@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1ggetja.104jirgg5vw8cN%bobemery@bellsouth.net...
> >>>>>>
>
> I took another type, Cipro, and had an immediate reaction,
> what really pissed me off was that I was wearing a
> marathon shirt when the doctor prescribed, we talked about
> my running.
What kind of a reaction did you have? I'm very surprised
that neither the doctor or the pharmacist warned you about
tendon problems with this drug. Michelle
Bumper wrote:
> Unless your doctor cannot find any other medication to
> treat your infection I would not take AVELOX...
Oh, please, where do you get off telling a woman not to take
an antibiotic for a suspected infection against the
recommendation of the doctor who examined her, knows the
situation, laid his/her hands on the mass in her jaw, knows
her other medical issues, and arranged followup plans?
All I need in my careful difficult practice of medicine is
some uninformed alarmist doofus like you telling my patients
based purely on anecdote or rumor, "don't take that blood
pressure medicine!", "don't take that antibiotic", "don't
use that eczema lotion", etc.
It's nice of you to be concerned for the health and
wellbeing of another person, but give the doc a break and
imagine for at least a moment that the doctor also is
concerned for the health and wellbeing of the patient, has
laid out the options, has negotiated an approach to treating
the situation at hand, and is in a much better position to
care for this woman than you! Not every doctor is
uninformed, lazy, greedy, disinterested, and unprofessional,
as you might think from reading here in this newsgroup.
Doctor and patient (and for that matter, massage therapist
and patient, physical therapist and patient, chiropractor
and patient, nutritionist and patient) can get a lot done
working carefully and earnestly together. Kindly try not to
sabotage that work together unless you really know how
grossly inappropriate someone's professional care is. I
don't even like Avelox and I never prescribe it. But at
least I have a bit of respect for another earnest
professional who does. Sheesh.
-- Josh Steinberg MD, Syracuse
Josh,
Let us review the facts at hand:
The poster requested info.
I responded with my personal opinion and experience with a
similar drug.
I then backed it up with information from the drug
maker's web site.
I gave details of my situation and events that lead up to
it. A urologist who did not know the side effects of one of
the most commonly prescribed drugs in his speciality and a
lazy druggist. I had a reaction, which I later found out was
not uncommon and if I had been give sufficient information I
might have had a discussion with the doctor about
alternatives.
I then suggested that the poster do some additional
research.
I am sure you are a fine physician, but you don't know me or
my medical background. But your response did remind me of a
dear friend who is a stick-and-spoon dentist, he got his
hand severely slapped because in giving expert testimony he
once failed to preface his remarks with "In my opinion...."
Of that I am guilty, so if it makes you feel better:
In my opinion, based on personal antedotal experience, I
would not recommend any active person take a drug that has
shown a propensity to cause large tendons to break"
As far as your lecture on giving the medical profession a
break, I do every day, but Shakespeare may have said it
best: "thou dost protest too much" The days of blindly
turning one's health care over to the "professionals" is
over, gone, fini. Between the government, the courts and the
insurance companies, these days doctors (and all the other
medical professionals) need all the help they can get. The
doctors I hang with will take it.
So the next time you want to start calling people names, you
might consider engaging that part of the brain that parses
the English language before you start typing. Rather than
coming up with some lame, trite, protectionist response, you
might have offered something helpful.
I have grown weary of this, so allow me to I offer up one
last prescription: Doc, go find the nearest mirror, look
squarely into it and let forth with your best litany of name
calling. I have never, ever been called a gentleman, but in
your case I'll opt for the higher ground.
Have a nice day,
Bob Emery
Joshua Steinberg <jsteinb1@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
> Bumper wrote:
>
> > Unless your doctor cannot find any other medication to
> > treat your infection I would not take AVELOX...
>
> Oh, please, where do you get off telling a woman not to
> take an antibiotic for a suspected infection against
> the recommendation of the doctor who examined her,
> knows the situation, laid his/her hands on the mass in
> her jaw, knows her other medical issues, and arranged
> followup plans?
>
> All I need in my careful difficult practice of medicine is
> some uninformed alarmist doofus like you telling my
> patients based purely on anecdote or rumor, "don't take
> that blood pressure medicine!", "don't take that
> antibiotic", "don't use that eczema lotion", etc.
>
> It's nice of you to be concerned for the health and
> wellbeing of another person, but give the doc a break and
> imagine for at least a moment that the doctor also is
> concerned for the health and wellbeing of the patient, has
> laid out the options, has negotiated an approach to
> treating the situation at hand, and is in a much better
> position to care for this woman than you! Not every doctor
> is uninformed, lazy, greedy, disinterested, and
> unprofessional, as you might think from reading here in
> this newsgroup. Doctor and patient (and for that matter,
> massage therapist and patient, physical therapist and
> patient, chiropractor and patient, nutritionist and
> patient) can get a lot done working carefully and
> earnestly together. Kindly try not to sabotage that work
> together unless you really know how grossly inappropriate
> someone's professional care is. I don't even like Avelox
> and I never prescribe it. But at least I have a bit of
> respect for another earnest professional who does. Sheesh.
>
> -- Josh Steinberg MD, Syracuse
YEAH! Get 'em bulldog! LOL. Seriously though, your point's
well taken. Question: you mention chiropractors working
together with you and others for good results. So does this
mean that you recognize that they have a place in medicine?
It would be refreshing to hear a MD say something good about
them, and maybe about why so many MD's (like Faux-Dr
Roidger) talk so much bad about them. I point this out all
the time, but it would be refreshing to hear some good about
them from an
MD.
Joshua Steinberg <jsteinb1@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:<e9f2560ad9ce28a7b7b5926002481fd5@news.teranews.com>...
> Bumper wrote:
>
> > Unless your doctor cannot find any other medication to
> > treat your infection I would not take AVELOX...
>
> Oh, please, where do you get off telling a woman not to
> take an antibiotic for a suspected infection against
> the recommendation of the doctor who examined her,
> knows the situation, laid his/her hands on the mass in
> her jaw, knows her other medical issues, and arranged
> followup plans?
>
> All I need in my careful difficult practice of medicine is
> some uninformed alarmist doofus like you telling my
> patients based purely on anecdote or rumor, "don't take
> that blood pressure medicine!", "don't take that
> antibiotic", "don't use that eczema lotion", etc.
>
> It's nice of you to be concerned for the health and
> wellbeing of another person, but give the doc a break and
> imagine for at least a moment that the doctor also is
> concerned for the health and wellbeing of the patient, has
> laid out the options, has negotiated an approach to
> treating the situation at hand, and is in a much better
> position to care for this woman than you! Not every doctor
> is uninformed, lazy, greedy, disinterested, and
> unprofessional, as you might think from reading here in
> this newsgroup. Doctor and patient (and for that matter,
> massage therapist and patient, physical therapist and
> patient, chiropractor and patient, nutritionist and
> patient) can get a lot done working carefully and
> earnestly together. Kindly try not to sabotage that work
> together unless you really know how grossly inappropriate
> someone's professional care is. I don't even like Avelox
> and I never prescribe it. But at least I have a bit of
> respect for another earnest professional who does. Sheesh.
>
> -- Josh Steinberg MD, Syracuse
<snip>
>Joshua Steinberg <jsteinb1@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Bumper wrote:
>>
>> > Unless your doctor cannot find any other medication to
>> > treat your infection I would not take AVELOX...
>>
>> Oh, please, where do you get off telling a woman not to
>> take an antibiotic for a suspected infection against
>> the recommendation of the doctor who examined her,
>> knows the situation, laid his/her hands on the mass in
>> her jaw, knows her other medical issues, and arranged
>> followup plans?
<snip> i guess the difference of opinion stems from the
amount of risk one is willing to assume. the doctor has no
downside, so his/her risk acceptance is high. the poor
patient may live with a serious problem for the rest of
their life, so their's is low.
i always refer people to
http://www.geocities.com/quinolones/ and tell them to review
the EMAIL FORUM link. sure, some of these anecdotal postings
are cuckoo. some are not. i wouldn't be taking quinolones
unless something very serious was happening. ...thehick
"Great Marathon man" <bigbalz_9@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cfc478de.0407070637.6bf9ec02@posting.google.com...
> YEAH! Get 'em bulldog! LOL. Seriously though, your point's
> well taken. Question: you mention chiropractors working
> together with you and others for good results. So does
> this mean that you recognize that they have a place in
> medicine?
Sure they do but only when they stay within the bounds of
what they went to school for. Too damn often they stray into
areas they don't know **** about and that's when they get
into trouble and taint the rest. Frankly and likely unfair,
but have no use for them. Any problem I have ever had was
solved by a "real" doctor or physical/massage therapist. We
have a wad of prictors in the local area and maybe one gets
passing grades.
Do you think any doctor would say anything bad about
another MD or branch of medicine in a public forum?
Forest..trees.. Willie
-DougF
frank-in-toronto wrote:
> i guess the difference of opinion stems from the amount of
> risk one is willing to assume. the doctor has no downside,
> so his/her risk acceptance is high. the poor patient may
> live with a serious problem for the rest of their life, so
> their's is low.
The doctor has no downside? I care not whether my patient
gets a resistant infection, a ruptured tendon, more lost
work and wages, etc.? I guess you have the wrong doctor.
I rise and fall on the successes of my patients and their
issues. When a smoker quits or a runner recovers from injury
or a mom and I get through a tough labor with a beautiful
baby, I'm thrilled. And when someone's belly pain continues
mysteriously or a colicky baby keeps on crying despite my
efforts, I feel lousy. Furthermore, if what I do doesn't
work, I have to then work on the problem again, with a
disappointed if not disgruntled patient no less. And don't
forget that everything a doctor does in our nutso lawyer-
happy socieity is subject to legal scrutiny. So I give
myself hassle, I embarrass myself at my failed effort, my
patient suffers, and I incur legal risk. What was that about
no downside?
I'm no saint, and I'm surely not the best doctor on earth or
even in Syracuse. But please don't think that doctors,
hopefully not your doctors, just take their paychecks and
gloat all the way to the bank in their BMW's (I drive old
Toyota). The profession and calling of medicine still means
a lot to me and just about every colleague I can think of.
Sorry we don't show it all the time.
-- Josh
Either you're full of ****, or you're an exception to the
rule, at least going by the Dr's around here.
Joshua Steinberg <jsteinb1@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:<08ad2089267daf4d0bb1aa88fc707f0d@news.teranews.com>...
> The doctor has no downside? I care not whether my patient
> gets a resistant infection, a ruptured tendon, more lost
> work and wages, etc.? I guess you have the wrong doctor.
>
> I rise and fall on the successes of my patients and their
> issues. When a smoker quits or a runner recovers from
> injury or a mom and I get through a tough labor with a
> beautiful baby, I'm thrilled. And when someone's belly
> pain continues mysteriously or a colicky baby keeps on
> crying despite my efforts, I feel lousy. Furthermore, if
> what I do doesn't work, I have to then work on the problem
> again, with a disappointed if not disgruntled patient no
> less. And don't forget that everything a doctor does in
> our nutso lawyer-happy socieity is subject to legal
> scrutiny. So I give myself hassle, I embarrass myself at
> my failed effort, my patient suffers, and I incur legal
> risk. What was that about no downside?
>
> I'm no saint, and I'm surely not the best doctor on earth
> or even in Syracuse. But please don't think that doctors,
> hopefully not your doctors, just take their paychecks and
> gloat all the way to the bank in their BMW's (I drive old
> Toyota). The profession and calling of medicine still
> means a lot to me and just about every colleague I can
> think of. Sorry we don't show it all the time.
>
> -- Josh
vBulletin, Copyright ©2000-2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by
vBSEO 3.3.0
