Type 1 diabetes 'cured'

[Anth]

(Source Bolen Report) http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/-
medicalnews.php?newsid=10158 Let's hope this thing
holds out. Anth

[Anth]

(I'm wondreing if these people will need to be on anti
rejection drugs for the rest of their lives?) Anth

[Peter Bowditch]

"Anth" <anon@anon.com> wrote:

>(Source Bolen Report) http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/me-
>dicalnews.php?newsid=10158 Let's hope this thing holds
>out. Anth
>

Why would Bolen be interested in this? Hulda Clark has had
the cure for Type ! diabetes for years!! Or so she says.

--
Peter Bowditch The Millenium Project
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[David Wright]

In article <WNCdndqMP-f0aX7d4p2dnA@nildram.net>, Anth <anon@anon.com> wrote:
>(Source Bolen Report) http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medi-
>calnews.php?newsid=10158 Let's hope this thing holds out.

Indeed. But a pancreas transplant is hardly an alternative-
medicine treatment, now is it, Anth?

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

[Peter Bowditch]

"Anth" <anon@anon.com> wrote:

>(I'm wondreing if these people will need to be on anti
>rejection drugs for the rest of their lives?) Anth
>

I've actually spoken to the doctors who have been working on
this. The pancreatic cell transplant requires far less anti-
rejection drugs than the only option up to now, which has
been a full pancreas+kidney transplant. In the new technique
they transplant Islets of Langerhans into the liver. Another
advantage is that they may be able to use a single donor
pancreas for several recipients.

Here's something I wrote last year which mentions this.

http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/ausscience1.htm

--
Peter Bowditch The Millenium Project
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only at ratbags.com

[Anth]

(If I recall correctly Tim Bolen doesn't write the Bolen
Report - the guy that authors the vitamin c foundation does)
How can Hulda cure type one diabetes if all the insulin
producing cells are dead? Maybe you can source a reference
showing that the cells are dead or just 'not working'? Anth

"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname@ratbags.com> wrote in message
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> "Anth" <anon@anon.com> wrote:
>
>>(Source Bolen Report) http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/me-
>>dicalnews.php?newsid=10158 Let's hope this thing holds
>>out. Anth
>>
>
> Why would Bolen be interested in this? Hulda Clark has had
> the cure for Type ! diabetes for years!! Or so she says.

[Mdd]

"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname@ratbags.com> wrote in message
news:gd38e0hfpfaf6nj9769eo13r319naaiaue@4ax.com...
> "Anth" <anon@anon.com> wrote:
>
> >(Source Bolen Report) http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/me-
> >dicalnews.php?newsid=10158 Let's hope this thing holds
> >out. Anth
> >
>
> Why would Bolen be interested in this? Hulda Clark has had
> the cure for Type ! diabetes for years!! Or so she says.
>
> --
> Peter Bowditch The Millenium Project
> http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles The Green Light
> http://www.ratbags.com/greenlight Quintessence of the Loon
> http://www.ratbags.com/loon To email me use my first name
> only at ratbags.com
Are you STILL getting an erection about Hulda? Damn! move
on.

[kiltyone]

Indeed, Hulda does have the secret cure for
Diabetes.....death.

Peter Bowditch wrote:

> "Anth" <anon@anon.com> wrote:
>
>
>>(Source Bolen Report) http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/me-
>>dicalnews.php?newsid=10158 Let's hope this thing holds
>>out. Anth
>>
>
>
> Why would Bolen be interested in this? Hulda Clark has had
> the cure for Type ! diabetes for years!! Or so she says.

[Anth]

It isn't a pancreas transplant. Anth

"David Wright" <wright@clam.prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:TvpFc.741$X84.6@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...
> In article <WNCdndqMP-f0aX7d4p2dnA@nildram.net>, Anth
> <anon@anon.com> wrote:
>>(Source Bolen Report) http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/med-
>>icalnews.php?newsid=10158 Let's hope this thing holds out.
>
> Indeed. But a pancreas transplant is hardly an alternative-
> medicine treatment, now is it, Anth?
>
> -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
> opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
> have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
> standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
>
>

[M.A.R.K P.R.O.B]

"Anth" <anon@anon.com> wrote in message
news:bZydnaovy6f9iXnd4p2dnA@nildram.net...
> (If I recall correctly Tim Bolen doesn't write the
> Bolen Report - the guy that authors the vitamin c
> foundation does)

AFAIK< he does write it. he sure endorses it. And, he is
being sued over it.

> How can Hulda cure type one diabetes if all the insulin
> producing cells
are
> dead? Maybe you can source a reference showing that the
> cells are dead or just 'not working'? Anth
>
> "Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname@ratbags.com> wrote in
> message news:gd38e0hfpfaf6nj9769eo13r319naaiaue@4ax.com...
> > "Anth" <anon@anon.com> wrote:
> >
> >>(Source Bolen Report) http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/m-
> >>edicalnews.php?newsid=10158 Let's hope this thing holds
> >>out. Anth
> >>
> >
> > Why would Bolen be interested in this? Hulda Clark
> > has had the cure for Type ! diabetes for years!! Or
> > so she says.

[David Wright]

In article <eYednflmYuUBXXvd4p2dnA@nildram.net>, Anth <anon@anon.com> wrote:
>It isn't a pancreas transplant.

Strictly speaking, that's true, but it is a transplant of
pancreatic cells into the recipient's liver. Such
transplants are not alternative procedures. This work was
not done by some naturopath.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

>"David Wright" <wright@clam.prodigy.net> wrote in message
>news:TvpFc.741$X84.6@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...
>> In article <WNCdndqMP-f0aX7d4p2dnA@nildram.net>, Anth
>> <anon@anon.com> wrote:
>>>(Source Bolen Report) http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/-
>>>medicalnews.php?newsid=10158 Let's hope this thing
>>>holds out.
>>
>> Indeed. But a pancreas transplant is hardly an alternative-
>> medicine treatment, now is it, Anth?

[Anth]

"M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-July 1, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t
07-01-04@lymbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:EZ_Ec.61657$OT6.25886155@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
>
> AFAIK< he does write it. he sure endorses it. And, he is
> being sued over it
. What's he being sued for now?
http://www.thecureforheartdisease.com/owen/bio.htm Anth

[Anth]

By Hawki's defintion brain cells transplanted would be a
'brain transplant.' Anth

"David Wright" <wright@clam.prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:2jCFc.440$m%7.234@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com...
> In article <eYednflmYuUBXXvd4p2dnA@nildram.net>, Anth
> <anon@anon.com> wrote:
>>It isn't a pancreas transplant.
>
> Strictly speaking, that's true, but it is a transplant of
> pancreatic cells into the recipient's liver. Such
> transplants are not alternative procedures. This work was
> not done by some naturopath.
>
> -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
> opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
> have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
> standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
>
>
>>"David Wright" <wright@clam.prodigy.net> wrote in message
>>news:TvpFc.741$X84.6@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...
>>> In article <WNCdndqMP-f0aX7d4p2dnA@nildram.net>, Anth
>>> <anon@anon.com> wrote:
>>>>(Source Bolen Report) http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/-
>>>>medicalnews.php?newsid=10158 Let's hope this thing
>>>>holds out.
>>>
>>> Indeed. But a pancreas transplant is hardly an alternative-
>>> medicine treatment, now is it, Anth?

[Anth]

Think of it like this - the treatment is on a whole
experimental, not all doctors will know about it. People
reading in here would probably go and take some 'quack' cure
for diabetes, this thing offers them some real hope, with
prospects of them being off insulin and leading a normal
life albeit on anti rejection drugs. Anth

"David Wright" <wright@clam.prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:2jCFc.440$m%7.234@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com...
> In article <eYednflmYuUBXXvd4p2dnA@nildram.net>, Anth
> <anon@anon.com> wrote:
>>It isn't a pancreas transplant.
>
> Strictly speaking, that's true, but it is a transplant of
> pancreatic cells into the recipient's liver. Such
> transplants are not alternative procedures. This work was
> not done by some naturopath.
>
> -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
> opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
> have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
> standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
>
>
>>"David Wright" <wright@clam.prodigy.net> wrote in message
>>news:TvpFc.741$X84.6@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...
>>> In article <WNCdndqMP-f0aX7d4p2dnA@nildram.net>, Anth
>>> <anon@anon.com> wrote:
>>>>(Source Bolen Report) http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/-
>>>>medicalnews.php?newsid=10158 Let's hope this thing
>>>>holds out.
>>>
>>> Indeed. But a pancreas transplant is hardly an alternative-
>>> medicine treatment, now is it, Anth?

[David Wright]

In article <gu-dnTCUY9WZ0XrdRVn-hQ@nildram.net>, Anth <anon@anon.com> wrote:
>By Hawki's defintion brain cells transplanted would be a
>'brain transplant.' Anth

Who cares? I wasn't involving her definition in my postings
and you aren't going to divert me. It's still not an alt med
treatment.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

>
>"David Wright" <wright@clam.prodigy.net> wrote in message
>news:2jCFc.440$m%7.234@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com...
>> In article <eYednflmYuUBXXvd4p2dnA@nildram.net>, Anth
>> <anon@anon.com> wrote:
>>>It isn't a pancreas transplant.
>>
>> Strictly speaking, that's true, but it is a transplant of
>> pancreatic cells into the recipient's liver. Such
>> transplants are not alternative procedures. This work was
>> not done by some naturopath.
>>
>>>"David Wright" <wright@clam.prodigy.net> wrote in message
>>>news:TvpFc.741$X84.6@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...
>>>> In article <WNCdndqMP-f0aX7d4p2dnA@nildram.net>, Anth
>>>> <anon@anon.com> wrote:
>>>>>(Source Bolen Report) http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/-
>>>>>medicalnews.php?newsid=10158 Let's hope this thing
>>>>>holds out.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed. But a pancreas transplant is hardly an alternative-
>>>> medicine treatment, now is it, Anth?

[David Wright]

In article <u_2dnUTm0vY60XrdRVn-hA@nildram.net>, Anth <anon@anon.com> wrote:
>Think of it like this - the treatment is on a whole
>experimental, not all doctors will know about it. People
>reading in here would probably go and take some 'quack'
>cure for diabetes, this thing offers them some real hope,
>with prospects of them being off insulin and leading a
>normal life albeit on anti rejection drugs.

No, people would probably take insulin, or, in the case of
type 2 diabetes, might try to control it via diet and weight
management. Anyone who tries to do it via quack cures is apt
to wind up as a statistic.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

>"David Wright" <wright@clam.prodigy.net> wrote in message
>news:2jCFc.440$m%7.234@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com...
>> In article <eYednflmYuUBXXvd4p2dnA@nildram.net>, Anth
>> <anon@anon.com> wrote:
>>>It isn't a pancreas transplant.
>>
>> Strictly speaking, that's true, but it is a transplant of
>> pancreatic cells into the recipient's liver. Such
>> transplants are not alternative procedures. This work was
>> not done by some naturopath.
>>
>>>"David Wright" <wright@clam.prodigy.net> wrote in message
>>>news:TvpFc.741$X84.6@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...
>>>> In article <WNCdndqMP-f0aX7d4p2dnA@nildram.net>, Anth
>>>> <anon@anon.com> wrote:
>>>>>(Source Bolen Report) http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/-
>>>>>medicalnews.php?newsid=10158 Let's hope this thing
>>>>>holds out.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed. But a pancreas transplant is hardly an alternative-
>>>> medicine treatment, now is it, Anth?

[M.A.R.K P.R.O.B]

"Anth" <anon@anon.com> wrote in message
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> "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-July 1, 2004" <M.a.r.k
> P.r.o.b.e.r.t 07-01-04@lymbercartel.com> wrote in message
> news:EZ_Ec.61657$OT6.25886155@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
> >
> > AFAIK< he does write it. he sure endorses it. And, he is
> > being sued over it
> . What's he being sued for now?

Defamation.

[Peter Bowditch]

"Anth" <anon@anon.com> wrote:

>Think of it like this - the treatment is on a whole
>experimental, not all doctors will know about it. People
>reading in here would probably go and take some 'quack'
>cure for diabetes, this thing offers them some real hope,
>with prospects of them being off insulin and leading a
>normal life albeit on anti rejection drugs. Anth

All doctors in the pancreas transplant business will
know about it.

--
Peter Bowditch The Millenium Project
http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles The Green Light
http://www.ratbags.com/greenlight Quintessence of the Loon
http://www.ratbags.com/loon To email me use my first name
only at ratbags.com

[Jan]

>Subject: Re: Type 1 diabetes 'cured'
>From: wright@clam.prodigy.net (David Wright)
>Date: 7/2/2004 7:13 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <TvpFc.741$X84.6@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com>
>
>In article <WNCdndqMP-f0aX7d4p2dnA@nildram.net>, Anth
><anon@anon.com> wrote:
>>(Source Bolen Report) http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/med-
>>icalnews.php?newsid=10158 Let's hope this thing holds out.
>
>Indeed. But a pancreas transplant is hardly an alternative-
>medicine treatment, now is it, Anth?

Any health topic is appropriate. David with his Ph.D in
something?? can't understand what alternative means.

[Anth]

As I said it's not a pancreas transplant. Anth

"Hawki63" <hawki63@aol.com> wrote in message news:20040703113926.23018.00001001@mb-
m07.aol.com...
> >Subject: Re: Type 1 diabetes 'cured'
>>From: "Anth" anon@anon.com Date: 7/3/2004 3:02 AM Pacific
>>Daylight Time Message-id:
>><eYednflmYuUBXXvd4p2dnA@nildram.net>
>>
>>It isn't a pancreas transplant. Anth
>
> to be more specific...it is a transplant of the beta cells
> of the pancreas...the fact that they were injected into
> the liver is not the issue..
>
> the beta cells come from the pancreas...
>
> sorta like a pancreas transplant hawki.....