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Jan

>Subject: Re: Natural /Soution To ADD/ADHD
>From: "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-July 2, 2004" M.a.r.kP.r.o.b.e.r.t
>07-02-04@lymbercartel.com
>Date: 7/2/2004 1:47 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <2baFc.3217$aM4.870056@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
>
>
>"Jan" <jdrew63929@aol.com> wrote in message news:20040701174646.10996.00001006@mb-
>m02.aol.com...
>> >Subject: Re: Natural /Soution To ADD/ADHD From: Vashti
>> >vashti_nl@hotmail.com Date: 7/1/2004 2:49 AM Pacific
>> >Standard Time Message-id:
>> ><20040701124945.3bbd2697@linux.local>
>> >
>> >It wasn't a dark and stormy night when M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-
>> >July 1, 2004 wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "Vashti" <vashti_nl@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:20040701082433.2e094a03@linux.local...
>> ><snip>
>> >> > They might have my vote if they showed some solid
>> >> > research proving their position and left out the
>> >> > vague references to how bad Ritalin
>> >> > is.
>> >>
>> >> Vaxa has been making claims for years. The FTC/FDA are
>> >> reviewing them now.
>> >
>> >Maybe something useful will come of it, whatever the
>> >results are will add to the body of information out
>> >there. How long would this process take? I'm betting
>> >it's long enough for me to forget about the stuff
>> >altogether knowing me! ;)
>> >
>> >
>> >Vashti
>>
>> Perhaps Mark might like to back up his claim with
>> proof?????
>>
>> Do show us they are being reviewed.
>>
>> Killfile off waiting.
>
>I filed a complaint with the FTC after I reviewed the URL
>you posted and saw the egregious violations.

000000000000000000000000000 I see.

Quack Barrett has taught you his dishonest tricks well.

Too much compettion for your beloved drugs.

>If and when I hear from the FTC, I will let you know.

I'll bet. In the meantime you LIED.

>Vaxa has been making claims for years. The FTC/FDA are
>reviewing them now.

Filing a complaint is NOT ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

The FTC/FDA are reviewing them *now*

Your over grown EGO is showing.

Caught in another LIE, busted, and a very slow learner.

Jan

Coleah

"Jan" <jdrew63929@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040702204031.25527.00001033@mb-m29.aol.com...

> Caught in another LIE, busted, and a very slow learner.
>
> Jan

Well that sure sounded 'belittling' and extremely
'unchristian' for a Bible thumper like Handjive Jan!

M.A.R.K P.R.O.B

"Jan" <jdrew63929@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >Subject: Re: Natural /Soution To ADD/ADHD From: "M.a.r.k
> >P.r.o.b.e.r.t-July 2, 2004" M.a.r.kP.r.o.b.e.r.t 07-02-
> >04@lymbercartel.com Date: 7/2/2004 1:47 AM Pacific
> >Standard Time Message-id:
> ><2baFc.3217$aM4.870056@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
> >
> >
> >"Jan" <jdrew63929@aol.com> wrote in message news:20040701174646.10996.00001006@mb-
> >m02.aol.com...
> >> >Subject: Re: Natural /Soution To ADD/ADHD From: Vashti
> >> >vashti_nl@hotmail.com Date: 7/1/2004 2:49 AM Pacific
> >> >Standard Time Message-id:
> >> ><20040701124945.3bbd2697@linux.local>
> >> >
> >> >It wasn't a dark and stormy night when M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-
> >> >July 1, 2004 wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> "Vashti" <vashti_nl@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:20040701082433.2e094a03@linux.local...
> >> ><snip>
> >> >> > They might have my vote if they showed some solid
> >> >> > research proving their position and left out the
> >> >> > vague references to how bad
Ritalin
> >> >> > is.
> >> >>
> >> >> Vaxa has been making claims for years. The FTC/FDA
> >> >> are reviewing
them
> >> >> now.
> >> >
> >> >Maybe something useful will come of it, whatever the
> >> >results are will add to the body of information out
> >> >there. How long would this process take? I'm betting
> >> >it's long enough for me to forget about the stuff
> >> >altogether knowing me! ;)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Vashti
> >>
> >> Perhaps Mark might like to back up his claim with
> >> proof?????
> >>
> >> Do show us they are being reviewed.
> >>
> >> Killfile off waiting.
> >
> >I filed a complaint with the FTC after I reviewed the URL
> >you posted and
saw
> >the egregious violations.
>
> 000000000000000000000000000 I see.
>
> Quack Barrett has taught you his dishonest tricks well.

Nope. I sent them my home address, phone listing, and other
contact information. I do not tolerate any form of scamming
when it comes to serious matters. Look at the seriousness of
unlawful internet drug sales. Someone is pushing this
pillsupplier drug sales site. YOU are strangely silent.
These sites are fast becoming a source of abusable drugs.

> Too much compettion for your beloved drugs.

Nope, again. This substance is NOT competition in any shape,
manner or form. It is useless, despite the salespitch.

> >If and when I hear from the FTC, I will let you know.
>
> I'll bet. In the meantime you LIED.

No, sweetums, I did not lie. The FTC takes every complaint
seriously and looks inbto the merits. If you woul like, I
could forward their initial email repsonse to you.

Have a nice day.

> >Vaxa has been making claims for years. The FTC/FDA are
> >reviewing them now.
>
> Filing a complaint is NOT ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
>
> The FTC/FDA are reviewing them *now*

Yes, just like I said.

> Your over grown EGO is showing.

You have never met 1% of my ego.

> Caught in another LIE, busted, and a very slow learner.

No lie, you did not catch me, and I am much faster on the
uptake than a sand box drop out.

Jan

>Subject: Re: Re Mark Probert BUSTER again
>From: "Coleah" coleah@pacifier.com
>Date: 7/2/2004 7:20 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <JBpFc.14743$MB3.9243@attbi_s04>
>
>
>"Jan" <jdrew63929@aol.com> wrote in message news:20040702204031.25527.00001033@mb-
>m29.aol.com...
>
>> Caught in another LIE, busted, and a very slow learner.
>>
>> Jan
>
>Well that sure sounded 'belittling' and extremely
>'unchristian' for a Bible thumper like Handjive Jan!

Wrong posting the truth and exposing lies is Christian.

Jan

Jan

>From: "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-July 2, 2004"
>M.a.r.kP.r.o.b.e.r.t 07-02-04@lymbercartel.com

>This substance is NOT competition in any shape, manner or
>form. It is useless, despite the salespitch.

=====
Since 1987, Doctors, Health Professionals, Clinics and
Hospitals, as well as Olympic and World Class Athletes have
been safely trusting in Vaxa to meet the requirements for
themselves and their patient base and clientele.

Vaxa International has been recognized worldwide as a Leader
in the Nutraceutical field. For years, Vaxa's advancements
in phytomedicinal combinations and biosystem specificity
have made the Nutraceutical industry what it is today, not
just in the United States, but worldwide.

In fact, those 70% experienced improvement near that of
the most popular prescription medication for ADD/ADHD, in
ONLY 30 Days!

Do You Stand Behind Your Product?... Do You Offer A
"Guarantee"? Absolutely! We stand behind Attend with a 1-
YEAR Money Back Guarantee!

Attend comes with extensive research and development and
clinical testing to quantify the remarkably high
effectiveness of this product for Attention Deficit
Disorder. Vaxa, the makers of Attend, adhere to strict
manufacturing standards to produce the highest quality
supplements..

There are over 1,000 nutritional manufacturing facilities in
the United States. Less than ½ of 1% of the nutritional
manufacturing facilities in the country match the exacting
standards followed in the Vaxa facility. From raw material
selection, to the water we clean our equipment with (details
below) it is hard to match the intense attention to detail
that goes into all of Vaxa's products.

All Vaxa advanced nutraceutical supplements are manufactured
in an FDA registered and inspected facility. All ingredients
contained within each Vaxa formula are considered dietary
food entities or supplements.

Only Superior Suppliers Pass The 1st Examination; A More
Rigorous Test Comes Next: For each ingredient we screen
potential suppliers by several critical factors. We ask
questions such as: "In which region was it grown?" "Is it
certified organic?" "Was it grown for supplements or for
whole foods?" "How do you prevent degradation of the
product?" "Is it irradiated or chemically cleaned?" Active
ingredients such as Sodium Bicarbonate, Calcium Carbonate
and Potassium Bicarbonate must be pharmaceutical grade. In
the lab, raw materials from a vendor are tested as they come
in the door - we do not accept the Certificate of Analysis
at face value. Tests are done visually, by smell, taste and
then scientifically. Alkalinity is tested and the batch is
run through a pharmaceutical standard, state of the art
machine called a High-Pressure Liquid Chromatographer to
test down to the trillions the elemental factors of the
compound. Then it is blueprinted on a near infrared scanner
that identifies 450 constituents qualitatively. That becomes
our standard that every future batch from the vendor must
match. Before the ingredient goes to manufacturing it is
tested for macro-biological contaminants, such as strep, e
Coli, or salmonella.

Clinical Lab Conditions - No Contamination: The
manufacturing lab is a clinical environment with all
stainless steel construction. To clean the lab we UV
sterilize, carbon filter, reverse osmosis, ozone inject, mix
bed de-ionize and boiler kettle our own water. This
procedure is above Kosher requirements.

Precise Environmental Standards - No Contamination: Each
room has its own air handler that completely exchanges the
air 50 times per hour. Pure, clean air is a critical element
in manufacturing a pure product. There are so many
contaminants in the air that a state of the art air
scrubbing system is a necessity. Many facilities just have a
dust handler and rely on the air conditioning system to
fight to replace the air. You might as well make the product
in a parking lot. The temperature is at a constant 71
degrees and the humidity is less than 35%.

Particle Sizing Means Greater Absorbency: The key element of
our manufacturing process is particle sizing. We use cold
process pulverization to take all particles to the same
size. Smaller particle size means that the body assimilates
the elements more readily. Ingredients come in different
particle sizes. Picture BBs, ping-pong balls, golf balls,
baseballs, softballs and basketballs. Improper mixing yields
batches that have all of the basketballs balls at the top
and the BBs at the bottom. This would mean that each capsule
has a different mix of ingredients (those early in the
loading process - too many basketballs).

Every Capsule Is Within a 1% Weight Tolerance: At the end of
the production process, checks are run to insure the product
weighs what it should. Industry standards allow +/- 5%
failure tolerances. We insist on a tolerance of +/- 1%. Many
manufacturers cut corners here. It is in their interest to
do so as 5% less material in each capsule adds up to serious
costs saved over time.

Acceptable Contamination Levels are 1/10th of Industry
Standards: Finally, a macro-biological test is done to make
sure that the lab didn't contaminate the product. Vaxa's
standards are 1000% higher than what the industry allows.

In the end, each batch comes with a Certificate of Analysis
and has a National Drug Control Number. Once Vaxa products
are manufactured and packaged, the product is then tested by
lot to ensure quality, stability, consistency, weight, and
content. Time series and dating analysis are performed twice
on all lots, first at the lab and then when received as a
finished product by Vaxa. Strict controls of inventory
dating and ongoing computer evaluations are performed daily
while total rechecks of inventory are performed each month.

All Vaxa products, once manufactured and packaged are then
tested by lot to ensure quality control, stability,
consistency, weight, and content. Time series and dating
analysis are performed twice on all lots. First where the
materials were produced and later when received as finished
product by Växa.

The strictest controls of inventory dating and ongoing
computer evaluations are performed daily while total recheck
of inventory are performed each month.

As you can see, Vaxa shares your passion for health and well
being and is obsessed with offering the highest quality
homeopathic nutraceutical products on the market. Vaxa
promises is to deliver high impact products with synergistic
formulations and the highest quality ingredients
manufactured with intense attention to detail.

>>If and when I hear from the FTC, I will let you know.
>>
>> I'll bet. In the meantime you LIED

>No, sweetums, I did not lie.

Liars have to tell more lies in a desperate attempt to covet
the first one.

>The FTC takes every complaint seriously and looks inbto
>the merits.

Irrelevant to your lie.

>I sent them my home address, phone listing, and other
>contact information.

Irrelevant to your lie.

>f you woul like, I could forward their initial email
>repsonse to you.

Irrelevant to your lie.

>Vaxa has been making claims for years. The FTC/FDA are
>reviewing them now.

You LIED again, you never learn.

<snip>

> Filing a complaint is NOT ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
>>
>> The FTC/FDA are reviewing them *now*
>
>Yes, just like I said.
>
Just like you LIED.

>Caught in another LIE, busted, and a very slow learner.

>No lie, you did not catch me,

Another lie.

and I am much faster on the uptake than a sand
>box drop out.

LOL. You noticed I KNEW you were lying from past behavior,
and I called your hand.

You floundered, as usual.

Then when caught ,used the usual *gang* behavior, lied again
and threw out more insults.

>. I do not tolerate any form of scamming when it comes to
> serious matters.

*I* don't tolerate LIES.

Jan

Rich.

On 03 Jul 2004 03:37:51 GMT, jdrew63929@aol.com (Jan) wrote:

>>Subject: Re: Re Mark Probert BUSTER again From: "Coleah"
>>coleah@pacifier.com Date: 7/2/2004 7:20 PM Pacific
>>Standard Time Message-id: <JBpFc.14743$MB3.9243@attbi_s04>
>>
>>
>>"Jan" <jdrew63929@aol.com> wrote in message news:20040702204031.25527.00001033@mb-
>>m29.aol.com...
>>
>>> Caught in another LIE, busted, and a very slow learner.
>>>
>>> Jan
>>
>>Well that sure sounded 'belittling' and extremely
>>'unchristian' for a Bible thumper like Handjive Jan!
>
>Wrong posting the truth and exposing lies is Christian.
>
>Jan

Tell Jesus that. In case you forgot Jan I suggest you read
the following and try to understand what it means:

MATTHEW 7:1-5:

"Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye
judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it
shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the
mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the
beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy
brother, Let me pull the mote out of thine eye; and behold,
a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out
the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see
clearly to cast the mote out of thy brother's eye."

Clearly, it is hypocritical judgment that this Scripture
condemns. (Look at verse 6, and 13-15 to see that Christ
actually instructs them to make judgments!) A hypocritical
judgment is judging something for something of which you are
also guilty - LIKE TELLING ME NOT TO JUDGE WHEN YOU ARE
JUDGING ME! Or telling others not to lie when you are lying.
Or telling others not to belittle when you are belittling.
Or telling someone not to call others names when you are
calling others names. Or telling someone not to change the
subject to them but they freely change the subject to
whomoever they so desire.

Poor Jan. May God have mercy on her soul.

Aloha,

Rich
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The best defense to logic is ignorance

M.A.R.K P.R.O.B

"Jan" <jdrew63929@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >Subject: Re: Re Mark Probert BUSTER again From: "Coleah"
> >coleah@pacifier.com Date: 7/2/2004 7:20 PM Pacific
> >Standard Time Message-id:
> ><JBpFc.14743$MB3.9243@attbi_s04>
> >
> >
> >"Jan" <jdrew63929@aol.com> wrote in message news:20040702204031.25527.00001033@mb-
> >m29.aol.com...
> >
> >> Caught in another LIE, busted, and a very slow learner.
> >>
> >> Jan
> >
> >Well that sure sounded 'belittling' and extremely
> >'unchristian' for a
Bible
> >thumper like Handjive Jan!
>
> Wrong posting the truth and exposing lies is Christian.

oops...

MATTHEW 7:1-5:

"Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye
judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it
shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the
mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the
beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy
brother, Let me pull the mote out of thine eye; and behold,
a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out
the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see
clearly to cast the mote out of thy brother's eye."

H Y P O C R I T E!

Mark Thorson

Jan the Accuser wrote:

> Nobody except trouble makers care.

Nobody except you is trying to divert the subject away from
the insane threats of a psychopath and malingerer.

> What happen several years back is Mark Thorson lied and
> got caught.

Repeating your accusation doesn't make it true.

Why can't you back up your accusation with an example of an
ORIGINAL STATEMENT from me which is a lie?

Why is that?

It burns you up that I can post many examples of ORIGINAL
STATEMENTS made by you which are lies.

Like this one:

To see Jan's ORIGINAL POSTING, go here:w.google.com/groups?selm=20040310000815.25804.00001173%40mb-
m01.aol.com

Jan wrote:

> >From: Mark Thorson nospam@sonic.net
> >
> >Instead of responding to what you say, Jan is trying to
> >discredit you by making insinuations about who you are or
> >what your motives may be.
> >
> >Soon, she may accuse you of being on the payroll of the
> >pharmaceutical companies, etc. That's the way Jan works.
>
> That would be ANOTHER LIE from Mark Thorson. I have
> NEVER accused
anyone of
> any such thing.
>
> So do prove your claim Mark!!!!!
>
> You can't YOU JUST LIED AGAIN!!!!!!!

----- example quotes of Jan accusing people of being paid
shills -----

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:w.google.com/groups?selm=20030415173745.18794.00000646%40mb-
fn.aol.com

Any time alt. health is mentioned the personal trashing
starts. Mostly comes from paid shill Mark Probert.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:w.google.com/groups?selm=20030412210802.08778.00000680%40mb-
fw.aol.com

Internet bully Mark Probert who is a paid shill and lives
off his wife.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:w.google.com/groups?selm=20030410170838.14245.00000347%40mb-
ct.aol.com

As for Mark, he is a paid shill and lives off his wife.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:w.google.com/groups?selm=20030325123827.25124.00000246%40mb-
mn.aol.com

As long as Mark is here, the paid shill will call names
when in fact he is the one who is a bigot. Speaking of his
own people.

Nana Weedkiller

M.A.R.K P.R.O.B

"Jan" <jdrew63929@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040703193951.06753.00000904@mb-m13.aol.com...
> >From: "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-July 2, 2004"
> >M.a.r.kP.r.o.b.e.r.t 07-02-04@lymbercartel.com
>
> >This substance is NOT competition in any shape, manner or
> >form. It is useless, despite the salespitch.

Selective snipping of the sales hype follows:

> =====
> Since 1987, Doctors, Health Professionals, Clinics and
> Hospitals, as well
as
> Olympic and World Class Athletes have been safely trusting
> in Vaxa to meet
the
> requirements for themselves and their patient base and
> clientele.

One can they list them? IIRC, Vaxa was asked many years ago
to list them, and would not. Strange that.

> Vaxa International has been recognized worldwide as a
> Leader in the Nutraceutical field. For years, Vaxa's
> advancements in phytomedicinal combinations and biosystem
> specificity have made the Nutraceutical
industry
> what it is today, not just in the United States, but
> worldwide.

A claim not to be proud of. Shows they value deception.

> In fact, those 70% experienced improvement near that of
> the most popular prescription medication for ADD/ADHD, in
> ONLY 30 Days!

However, they cannot prove that:

1) all participants were properly disagnosed with ADHD (and
Jan keeps posting how often ADHD is misdiagnosed, thus
proving that their self-referred base is unreliable)

2) that there was no placebo or Hawthorne effect

3) that there was no observational bias errors since the
"studies" were not double blinded.

and that is just for starters.

> Do You Stand Behind Your Product?...

Vaxa doesn't care enough to submit their claims to the
FDA for approval. I wonder why? Actually, I don't. The
only reason why is that they are afraid that they cannot
prove their claims. I do not call that standing behind
their product.

Do You Offer A "Guarantee"?
> Absolutely! We stand behind Attend with a 1-YEAR Money
> Back Guarantee!
>
> Attend comes with extensive research and development and
> clinical testing
to
> quantify the remarkably high effectiveness of this product
> for Attention Deficit Disorder. Vaxa, the makers of
> Attend, adhere to strict
manufacturing
> standards to produce the highest quality supplements..

See above for comments on proof of claims.

> There are over 1,000 nutritional manufacturing facilities
> in the United
States.

Now, that is one scary number...

> Less than ½ of 1% of the nutritional manufacturing
> facilities in the
country
> match the exacting standards followed in the Vaxa
> facility.

If true, that is even more scary. Stephen King should write
a book about it.

From raw material
> selection, to the water we clean our equipment with
> (details below) it is
hard
> to match the intense attention to detail that goes into
> all of Vaxa's
products.
>
> All Vaxa advanced nutraceutical supplements are
> manufactured in an FDA registered and inspected facility.
> All ingredients contained within each
Vaxa
> formula are considered dietary food entities or
> supplements.

FDA registered and inspected, but, strangely, there i
snothing on the FDA website about this....

> Acceptable Contamination Levels are 1/10th of Industry
> Standards: Finally, a macro-biological test is done to
> make sure that the lab didn't contaminate the product.
> Vaxa's standards are 1000% higher than what the
> industry allows.

If so, Robin Cook could write a book about it.

> In the end, each batch comes with a Certificate of
> Analysis and has a
National
> Drug

Drug? I thought they were selling supplements, not drugs....

> As you can see, Vaxa shares your passion for health and
> well being and is obsessed with offering the highest
> quality homeopathic nutraceutical
products
> on the market.

I wish they were as obsessed with actually proving
that it works.

> >>If and when I hear from the FTC, I will let you know.
> >>
> >> I'll bet. In the meantime you LIED
>
> >No, sweetums, I did not lie.
>
> Liars have to tell more lies in a desperate attempt to
> covet the first
one.

I did not covet the first one, as 1) I do not covet, and 2)
I did not lie.

> >The FTC takes every complaint seriously and looks inbto
> >the merits.
>
> Irrelevant to your lie.

Wrong, since I did not lie.

> >I sent them my home address, phone listing, and other
> >contact information.
>
> Irrelevant to your lie.

Nope. Shows I have nothing to hide. I am not hiding in
Mexico or Central America, like your buddies.

> >f you woul like, I could forward their initial email
> >repsonse to you.
>
> Irrelevant to your lie.

I offer proof, and you reject it. And, I did not lie.

> >Vaxa has been making claims for years. The FTC/FDA are
> >reviewing them now.
>
> You LIED again, you never learn.

I never lied, and you just have to reject anyone who
disagrees with you by calling them a liar.

> <snip>
>
> > Filing a complaint is NOT ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
> >>
> >> The FTC/FDA are reviewing them *now*
> >
> >Yes, just like I said.
> >
> Just like you LIED.

No, like I said. Quite truthful.

> >Caught in another LIE, busted, and a very slow learner.
>
> >No lie, you did not catch me,
>
> Another lie.

Nope. wrong, as usual.

> and I am much faster on the uptake than a sand
> >box drop out.
>
> LOL. You noticed I KNEW you were lying from past behavior,
> and I called
your
> hand.

CORRECT! I knew you would call me a liar simply because you
are intellectually bankrupt and cannot handle the truth,
thus necessitaitng your rejecting everything I say by
calling me a liar.

> You floundered, as usual.

No, I have not FLOUNDERed, although, later this afternoon,
while boating into lower NY Harbor for an evening anchorage
near the Statue of Liberty to watch Macy's fireworks
celebrating The Lady's reopening, I will be feasting on some
fresh flounder (I hope) that we expect to catch.

> Then when caught ,used the usual *gang* behavior, lied
> again and threw out
more
> insults.

NOPE. Firstly, your pathological need to reject others'
views by calling us a liar is an insult, but a mild one,
considering the source. Secondly, I was being kind to you,
and not insulting in the slightest way. You have shown no
evidence of being a bottle rocket scientist. (Do not use
bottle rockets and they are one of the leading causes of
blindness.)

> >. I do not tolerate any form of scamming when it comes to
> > serious matters.
>
> *I* don't tolerate LIES.

WRONG. You do not tolerate differences of opinion, and, that
is a fact, Jack.

Mha Reaction Fo

>>Subject: Re: Re Mark Probert BUSTER again
>>From: "Coleah" coleah@pacifier.com
>>Date: 7/2/2004 7:20 PM Pacific Standard Time
>>Message-id: <JBpFc.14743$MB3.9243@attbi_s04>
>>
>>
>>"Jan" <jdrew63929@aol.com> wrote in message news:20040702204031.25527.00001033@mb-
>>m29.aol.com...
>>
>>> Caught in another LIE, busted, and a very slow learner.
>>>
>>> Jan
>>
>>Well that sure sounded 'belittling' and extremely
>>'unchristian' for a Bible thumper like Handjive Jan!
>
>Wrong posting the truth and exposing lies is Christian.

There is no mention of posting to Usenet in the Bible, ergo
Jan is lying about God's word.

Sad, that.

>Jan
>

Mark Thorson

M.A.R.K P.R.O.B

"Jan" <jdrew63929@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040703195357.06753.00000905@mb-m13.aol.com...
> >Subject: Re: Re Mark Probert BUSTED again From: "M.a.r.k
> >P.r.o.b.e.r.t-July 2, 2004" M.a.r.kP.r.o.b.e.r.t 07-02-
> >04@lymbercartel.com Date: 7/3/2004 5:47 AM Pacific
> >Standard Time Message-id:
> ><bOyFc.20804$aM4.5369533@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
> >
> >
> >"Jan" <jdrew63929@aol.com> wrote in message news:20040702233751.25527.00001058@mb-
> >m29.aol.com...
> >> >Subject: Re: Re Mark Probert BUSTER again From:
> >> >"Coleah" coleah@pacifier.com Date: 7/2/2004 7:20 PM
> >> >Pacific Standard Time Message-id:
> >> ><JBpFc.14743$MB3.9243@attbi_s04>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Jan" <jdrew63929@aol.com> wrote in message news:20040702204031.25527.00001033@mb-
> >> >m29.aol.com...
> >> >
> >> >> Caught in another LIE, busted, and a very slow
> >> >> learner.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jan
> >> >
> >> >Well that sure sounded 'belittling' and extremely
> >> >'unchristian' for a
> >Bible
> >> >thumper like Handjive Jan!
> >>
> >> Wrong posting the truth and exposing lies is Christian.
>
> >oops...
>
> You clearly lied, no doubt about it.
>
> In Mark 1:34 we read that Jesus "drove out many demons,
> but he would not
let
> the demons speak because they knew who he was." The
> parallel account in
Luke's
> Gospel tells us that Jesus "rebuked them and would not
> allow them to
speak,
> because they knew he was the Christ" (Luke 4:41).

Yes, Jan, you did find a biblical justification for when
you say STFU.

> There are probably several reasons as to why Jesus would
> not allow the
demons
> to speak. First, Satan is called the father of lies (John
> 8:44; see also Genesis 3:4), and the demons who follow
> Satan no doubt reflect the
character of
> their diabolic leader. Certainly Jesus would not want any
> testimony
regarding
> His identity from a sinister, lying source. Moreover, one
> must keep in
mind
> that some of the Jewish leaders associated Jesus with
> Beelzebub, "the
prince of
> the demons" (Mark 3:22). Hence, allowing testimony from
> lying spirits
might add
> fuel to the fire regarding that false claim.

Yes, Jan, posting about the evil of the Jews is exactly why
you are considered to be a bigot.

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