Internet can be used for good or evil...

[Dave Wickware]

Terry Polevoy seems to be taunting me to some end known only
to himself , by suggesting some things that are untrue.
First he says that I own the Advanced Wholistic Centre. I am
a patient of the doctor of holistic medicine who owns it.
Since she is not a licensed physicician she can't prescribe
prescription drugs. Since she is a wholistic, intuitive
doctor, she would never be aparty to selling drugs. She
refers her patients to their doctors for that.

http://www.pillsupplier.com/

Next he posts a review which simply copies and pastes
some information from the Advanced Wholistic Centre
website and then says that we own a company of physicians
named PillSupplier in Arizona. This is pretty
unacceptable behaviour and shows what he stands for. Here
is Terry's post.

http://www.pillsupplier.com/add_review/review54837.html

I have contacted PillSupplier and requested some things from
them in this regard. I guess when I said Terry Polevoy means
nothing to me, I must have hurt his feelings. I did not mean
to, its just that to me, he is not relevent.

PillSupplier.com is dedicated to providing cutting-edge
medicine through Internet technology. Our physicians
specialize in consulting with privacy-minded individuals and
prescribing popular medications. These medications,
sometimes called "embarrassment" drugs, are prescribed and
dispensed by our physicians and pharmacists!

As one of our patients, you are able to: 1- Enjoy complete
privacy, discretion, and dignity while addressing your
condition. 2- Play an active role and participate more fully
in your own process of care. 3- Enjoy your health care in an
enlightened manner and maintain better health. 4- Enjoy a
professional consultation at an affordable cost.

More and more individuals have become weary of the medical
profession's attitude toward patient care. Patients are
often left with little or no choice as to their course of
treatment or what medications they are permitted to take.
Our physicians are dedicated to helping you make your own
medical decisions. We are here to provide you with the
professional consultation you need to decide which plan of
care is right for you. You are a partner with us in the
medical decision-making process.

Many patients prefer the anonymity of an online consultation
as opposed to a conversation with one's personal physician.
The patient is benefited by technology. Although computers
are often dismissed as dehumanizing, their use in online
consultations greatly eases the patients' anxiety about
discussing their medical conditions.

It is not our position that the Internet could ever replace
the importance of seeing your doctor regularly, in person.
It is important that you seriously consider a full physical
exam specifically to evaluate possible causes for your
problem. The issuance of medication does not replace the
need for a physical exam.

On behalf of PillSupplier.com, I'd like thank you--our customers--
for helping make us the world's foremost online pharmacy.
Your continued support and business are truly appreciated.
We are grateful that we are able to offer you our services
and that we have made such an impact in the health and
wellbeing of so many people's lives.

Sincerely, Roger King President, PillSupplier.com

[Terry Polevoy]

Dave Wickware has no idea of the seriousness of what
internet pharmacies can do.

First of all pillsupplier.com has a secret address. They
hide themselves through a thick layer of security.

They are not on the approved list of internet
pharmacies that is maintained by the National
Association of Boards of Pharmacy. That means that what
pillsupplier.com does implies risks that I would not
take, and anyone who uses or recommends that on-line
URL ought to have their head examined.

http://www.nabp.net/

Try to track down who pillsupplier.com really is and you are
out of luck. When you go to Godaddy.com to find out who they
are and go to their whois section you may think that they
are in Arizona, but you may be wrong:

WHOIS Search Results for: PILLSUPPLIER.COM

The data contained in Go Daddy Software, Inc.'s WHOIS
database,while believed by the company to be reliable, is
provided "as is"with no guarantee or warranties regarding
its accuracy. Thisinformation is provided for the sole
purpose of assisting youin obtaining information about
domain name registration records.Any use of this data for
any other purpose is expressly forbidden without the prior
writtenpermission of Go Daddy Software, Inc. By submitting
an inquiry,you agree to these terms of usage and limitations
of warranty. In particular,you agree not to use this data to
allow, enable, or otherwise make possible,dissemination or
collection of this data, in part or in its entirety, for
anypurpose, such as the transmission of unsolicited
advertising andand solicitations of any kind, including
spam. You further agreenot to use this data to enable high
volume, automated or robotic electronicprocesses designed to
collect or compile this data for any purpose,including
mining this data for your own personal or commercial
purposes. Please note: the registrant of the domain name is
specifiedin the "registrant" field. In most cases, Go Daddy
Software, Inc. is not the registrant of domain names listed
in this database.Registrant:

Domains by Proxy, Inc. 15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160 PMB353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States Registered through:
GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com/)) Domain Name:
PILLSUPPLIER.COM Created on: 08-Sep-03 Expires on: 08-Sep-04
Last Updated on: 06-May-04 Administrative Contact: Private,
Registration PILLSUPPLIER.COM@domainsbyproxy.com Domain
servers in listed order: NS.PILLSUPPLIER.COM
NSX.PILLSUPPLIER.COM

Then you locate their address and you find that the company
known as DomainsByProxy.com is hiding their location in a
UPS (formerly MBE - Mailboxes, Etc.) location:

http://www.mbe.com/hpgen/CenterPage.asp?strCenterNum=MBE1669

Now why would they do that? Are they afraid that someone
might want to locate their offices to file a complaint?

Isn't that curious. They have no Adminitrative contact
listed. These bozos could be anywhere in the world. They may
not even be in North America. They use a mailbox drop, too.

Then you try to see who Domainsbyproxy.com (DBP) is and you
get even murkier. But you find out that DBP is commited to
protect the identity of any of their users at any cost
unless there are legal proceedings against them. If a
consumer complained they could probably just ignore you.

So anyone can use them to set up an anonymous URL. They
could be in Timbuktu, or Waterloo.

http://www.domainsbyproxy.com (http://www.domainsbyproxy.com/)

When you plug their ISP number 67.15.38.23 into Sam Spade
you get a location in Houston, Texas.

http://www.samspade.org/t/whois?a=67.15.38.23;server=auto

Here is what DBP says on their web site:

Did you know that for each domain name you register, anyone
- anywhere, anytime - can find out your name, home address,
phone number and email address?

The law requires that the personal information you provide
with every domain you register be made public in the "WHOIS"
database. Your identity becomes instantly available - and
vulnerable - to spammers, scammers, prying eyes and worse.

But now there's a solution: Domains By Proxy!

Now why in the world would anyone want to advertise the
Advanced Wholistic retreat centre, which is located in a
small Ontario town, on an internet site that hawks dangerous
prescription drugs over the internet, who hides their
identity AND location? Furthermore, who is Roger King, what
are his qualifications, and who are the doctors and
pharmacists who work for his operation?

Dave, you don't obviously know what you are getting into
here. If you don't own the Advanced Wholistic clinic, then
tell us who does, and tell us their qualifications, please?

Your defense of an unregulated industry is unimaginable. It
is dangerous, and you are obviously out of your league here.

How can a ginseng pedlar like you, or your associates,
support internet pharmacies?

How can you, or your associates, advertise a wholistic
retreat on one of those sites?

The internet pharmacy has been reported to the proper
authorities so that they can deal with it.

So, why don't you ask your friends to remove the
advertisement from the site in question and apologize to
your fans.

Terry

"Dave Wickware" <dwickware@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:<arsFc.93537$Ax1.1324828@news20.bellglobal.com>...
> Terry Polevoy seems to be taunting me to some end known
> only to himself , by suggesting some things that are
> untrue. First he says that I own the Advanced Wholistic
> Centre. I am a patient of the doctor of holistic medicine
> who owns it. Since she is not a licensed physicician she
> can't prescribe prescription drugs. Since she is a
> wholistic, intuitive doctor, she would never be aparty to
> selling drugs. She refers her patients to their doctors
> for that.
>
> http://www.pillsupplier.com/
>
>
> Next he posts a review which simply copies and pastes
> some information from the Advanced Wholistic Centre
> website and then says that we own a company of physicians
> named PillSupplier in Arizona. This is pretty
> unacceptable behaviour and shows what he stands for. Here
> is Terry's post.
>
> http://www.pillsupplier.com/add_review/review54837.html
>
> I have contacted PillSupplier and requested some things
> from them in this regard. I guess when I said Terry
> Polevoy means nothing to me, I must have hurt his
> feelings. I did not mean to, its just that to me, he is
> not relevent.
>
> PillSupplier.com is dedicated to providing cutting-edge
> medicine through Internet technology. Our physicians
> specialize in consulting with privacy-minded individuals
> and prescribing popular medications. These medications,
> sometimes called "embarrassment" drugs, are prescribed and
> dispensed by our physicians and pharmacists!
>
> As one of our patients, you are able to: 1- Enjoy
> complete privacy, discretion, and dignity while
> addressing your condition. 2- Play an active role and
> participate more fully in your own process of care. 3-
> Enjoy your health care in an enlightened manner and
> maintain better health. 4- Enjoy a professional
> consultation at an affordable cost.
>
> More and more individuals have become weary of the medical
> profession's attitude toward patient care. Patients are
> often left with little or no choice as to their course of
> treatment or what medications they are permitted to take.
> Our physicians are dedicated to helping you make your own
> medical decisions. We are here to provide you with the
> professional consultation you need to decide which plan of
> care is right for you. You are a partner with us in the
> medical decision-making process.
>
> Many patients prefer the anonymity of an online
> consultation as opposed to a conversation with one's
> personal physician. The patient is benefited by
> technology. Although computers are often dismissed as
> dehumanizing, their use in online consultations greatly
> eases the patients' anxiety about discussing their medical
> conditions.
>
> It is not our position that the Internet could ever
> replace the importance of seeing your doctor regularly, in
> person. It is important that you seriously consider a full
> physical exam specifically to evaluate possible causes for
> your problem. The issuance of medication does not replace
> the need for a physical exam.
>
> On behalf of PillSupplier.com, I'd like thank you--our customers--
> for helping make us the world's foremost online pharmacy.
> Your continued support and business are truly appreciated.
> We are grateful that we are able to offer you our services
> and that we have made such an impact in the health and
> wellbeing of so many people's lives.
>
> Sincerely, Roger King President, PillSupplier.com

[Terry Polevoy]

http://www.fda.gov/oc/buyonline/faqs.html

1. Why is FDA concerned about unlawful drug sales on
the Internet?

Patients who buy prescription drugs from Websites operating
outside the law are at increased risk of suffering life-
threatening adverse events, such as side effects from
inappropriately prescribed medications, dangerous drug
interactions, contaminated drugs, and impure or unknown
ingredients found in unapproved drugs.

The current system of federal and state safeguards for
protecting patients from the use of inappropriate or unsafe
drugs has generally served the country well. These laws
require that certain drugs be dispensed only with a valid
prescription because they are not safe for use without the
supervision of a licensed health care practitioner.
Generally, before the practitioner issues a prescription for
a drug the patient has never taken before, he or she must
first examine the patient to determine the appropriate
treatment. Subsequently, the patient receives the drug from
a registered pharmacist working in a licensed pharmacy that
meets state practice standards.

The Internet makes it easy for unscrupulous people to sell
drugs to patients without these safeguards in place. A
Website may appear to be associated with a legitimate
pharmacy when in fact it is not. Websites that sell
prescription drugs without a valid prescription deny
consumers the protection provided by an examination
conducted by a licensed practitioner.

2. Are there any benefits to purchasing approved
drugs online?

Yes. Legitimate pharmacy sites on the Internet provide
consumers with a convenient, private, way to obtain
needed medications, sometimes at more affordable prices.
The elderly and persons in remote areas can avoid the
inconvenience of traveling to a store to purchase
medications. Many reputable Internet pharmacies allow
patients to consult with a licensed pharmacist from the
privacy of their home. Moreover, Internet pharmacies can
provide customers with written product information and
references to other sources of information like the
traditional storefront pharmacy. Finally, the increasing
use of computer technology to transmit prescriptions
from doctors to pharmacies is likely to reduce
prescription errors.

3. How many web sites sell prescription drugs?

The National Association of Boards of Pharmacy has
identified approximately 200 domestic web sites that
dispense prescription drugs but do not offer an online
prescribing service. According to a recent Chicago Tribune
article cited by the American Medical Association, there are
at least 400 web sites that both dispense and offer a
prescribing service -- half of these sites are located in
foreign countries. Some have estimated that the number of
Websites selling prescription drugs may now be closer to
1,000. The number of Websites, however, fluctuates from day
to day, and seems to be growing.

4. How many people have been harmed from drugs purchased
over the Internet?

It is impossible to accurately quantify adverse event rates
because FDA's postmarketing surveillance system receives
reports on only a relatively small percentage of all adverse
events caused by drugs. However, as a result of
postmarketing surveillance data collected by FDA, we know
that the sale of unapproved drugs and the illegal sale of
approved drugs over the Internet poses a serious public
health risk. We know, for example, of many adverse events
resulting from the use of the drug GBL and the date rape
drug GHB, which are unapproved drugs sold illegally over the
Internet. FDA learned recently of a person who

examination by a healthcare professional. Unfortunately, the
man had a family history of heart disease and died after
taking the drug.

We also know of cases where people choose the Internet for
treatment to avoid consulting a health care professional.
These consumers, however, run the risk of purchasing
inappropriate drugs or unknowingly purchasing counterfeit or
sub-potent drugs.

5. If FDA is not aware of adverse events associated with
approved drugs sold online, why does the agency think
that unlawful online sale is a big problem?

We know that adverse events are under-reported and we know
from history that tolerating the sale of unproven,
fraudulent, or adulterated drugs results in harm to the
public health. It is reasonable to expect that the illegal
sale of drugs over the Internet and the number of resulting
injuries will increase as sales on the Internet grow.
Without clear and effective law enforcement, violators will
have no reason to stop their illegal practices. Unless we
begin to act now, unlawful conduct and the resulting harm to
consumers most likely will increase.

6. Why shouldn't the online pharmacy industry be self-
regulated?

Industry self-regulation has a role to play when applied to
legitimate businesses. However, self-regulation is an
insufficient mechanism to control illegal practices.

7. Some Websites offer to prescribe medication based
only on a questionnaire. Is this a safe practice?
Is it legal?

Unlike the traditional relationship between a patient and
the patient's health care professional, some online
practitioners issue prescriptions in the absence of a
physical examination or direct medical supervision.
According to the American Medical Association, a health care
professional who offers a prescription for a patient the
practitioner has never seen before and based solely on an
online questionnaire generally has not met the appropriate
medical standard of care. As a result, patients may receive
a drug that is inappropriate for them to use and may
sacrifice the opportunity for a correct diagnosis or the
identification of an underlying medical condition for which
use of the prescription drug may be dangerous.

It is a violation of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic
Act to dispense prescription drugs without a valid
prescription. FDA will work with the states to determine the
validity of online prescriptions and to bring enforcement
actions under state law, federal law, or both, as
appropriate. In addition, several state boards of medicine
have ruled that such practice is medical misconduct and have
fined and suspended the licenses of health care
practitioners who have prescribed drugs in this manner.

8. How many states have acted against web sites selling
prescription drugs?

Several states have taken or are contemplating taking action
against illegitimate online sellers of prescription drugs.
Fourteen states (Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut,
Illinois, Michigan, Kansas, Nevada, New Jersey, Ohio, Texas,
Washington, Wisconsin, and Wyoming) have already taken some
action against physicians prescribing drugs over the
Internet. Although most of these cases involve cease and
desist orders, some states have assessed fines and are
contemplating stiffer penalties. One state has issued a
temporary restraining order against an Internet pharmacy
selling drugs without a valid prescription.

9. Who will FDA refer complaints to at the state level?

FDA has been working with the National Association of Boards
of Pharmacy, the Federation of State Medical Boards, and the
National Association of Attorneys General to establish
points of contact in all states specifically for Internet
related problems. Both the FDA and NABP Websites have online
reporting forms for consumers to use in referring complaints
to the appropriate regulatory authorities.

10. How will FDA integrate its efforts with the White House
Electronic Commerce Working Group?

FDA believes its activities will complement those of the
White House working group and are consistent with the
Administration's July 1997 Framework for Global Electronic
Commerce and the President's November 1998 Memorandum on
Successes and Further Work on Electronic Commerce. Effective
consumer protection is necessary to foster legitimate
electronic commerce. Because legitimate electronic commerce
activities may involve the practice of medicine or the
practice of pharmacy, FDA will work with state law
enforcement and regulatory bodies to better define the
boundaries of legitimate online practices. By reducing the
availability of illegal and harmful products in the
electronic commerce marketplace, FDA enforcement activities
will increase consumer confidence in the Internet.

11. What are international organizations like WHO doing
about Internet prescribing and dispensing?

The World Health Organization is in the process of
developing a guide entitled "Medical Products and the
Internet." In addition to providing tips on finding reliable
health and medical information on the Internet, it will
provide advice on buying medical products online. FDA
participated in the development of this guide.

12. Can an American patient get a medication not approved in
the U.S. from a foreign dispenser?

As a general matter, it is illegal to import an unapproved
drug into the U.S. However, under FDA's personal importation
policy, FDA has authorized its inspectors to use their
enforcement discretion to allow U.S. residents to import
certain products under certain limited conditions. Under
this policy, FDA may allow a U.S. resident to bring into
this country an unapproved drug for their personal use for a
serious condition, if there has been no commercialization or
promotion of the drug to U.S. residents.

13. Is it illegal for a foreign pharmacy to ship
prescription medicines into the U.S.?

It is illegal for anyone, including a foreign pharmacy,
to ship prescription drugs that are not approved by FDA
into the U.S. even though the drug may be legal to sell
in that pharmacy's country. Under the scheme that
Congress established to ensure that drugs are safe and
effective, drugs are tested and test results are
thoroughly reviewed by FDA scientists. U.S. law also
requires that products approved for sale in the United
States have their formulation approved by FDA, be made in
a plant registered with FDA, and be produced under
quality standards enforced by FDA.

Prescription drugs available from a foreign pharmacy that
are products that FDA has not approved; products with
similar, but not identical formulations as FDA-approved
products; products not made under the quality standards
required by U.S. law or labeled according to U.S.
requirements; or products not stored or distributed under
the quality conditions required in the U.S. cannot be
legally sold in the U.S.

[Terry Polevoy]

http://www.expertlaw.com/library/pubarticles/online_pharmacy.html

http://www.fda.gov/oc/buyonline/default.htm

http://www.ncsl.org/statefed/health/olpharm.htm

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1999/07/pharma.htm

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2000/07/iog.htm

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2003/03/onlinepharm.htm

http://www.ftc.gov/opp/ecommerce/anticompetitive/panel/-
condon.htm

http://www.ftc.gov/os/2003/03/030327internetprescriptions.p-
df

http://www.ftc.gov/os/testimony/106hearings.htm

http://www.ftc.gov/privacy/privacyinitiatives/promises_-
press.html

[Dave Wickware]

Then your acqusation that this is in any way affiliated with
the Advanced Wholistic Centre is a total fabrication by you.

"Terry Polevoy" <info@healthwatcher.net> wrote in message
news:d0acb77d.0407030359.6cb5e49c@posting.google.com...
> Dave Wickware has no idea of the seriousness of what
> internet pharmacies can do.
>
> First of all pillsupplier.com has a secret address. They
> hide themselves through a thick layer of security.
>
> They are not on the approved list of internet pharmacies
> that is maintained by the National Association of Boards
> of Pharmacy. That means that what pillsupplier.com does
> implies risks that I would not take, and anyone who uses
> or recommends that on-line URL ought to have their head
> examined.
>
> http://www.nabp.net/
>
> Try to track down who pillsupplier.com really is and you
> are out of luck. When you go to Godaddy.com to find out
> who they are and go to their whois section you may think
> that they are in Arizona, but you may be wrong:
>
> WHOIS Search Results for: PILLSUPPLIER.COM
>
> The data contained in Go Daddy Software, Inc.'s WHOIS
> database,while believed by the company to be reliable, is
> provided "as is"with no guarantee or warranties regarding
> its accuracy. Thisinformation is provided for the sole
> purpose of assisting youin obtaining information about
> domain name registration records.Any use of this data for
> any other purpose is expressly forbidden without the prior
> writtenpermission of Go Daddy Software, Inc. By submitting
> an inquiry,you agree to these terms of usage and
> limitations of warranty. In particular,you agree not to
> use this data to allow, enable, or otherwise make
> possible,dissemination or collection of this data, in part
> or in its entirety, for anypurpose, such as the
> transmission of unsolicited advertising andand
> solicitations of any kind, including spam. You further
> agreenot to use this data to enable high volume, automated
> or robotic electronicprocesses designed to collect or
> compile this data for any purpose,including mining this
> data for your own personal or commercial purposes. Please
> note: the registrant of the domain name is specifiedin the
> "registrant" field. In most cases, Go Daddy Software, Inc.
> is not the registrant of domain names listed in this
> database.Registrant:
>
> Domains by Proxy, Inc. 15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
> PMB353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States Registered
> through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com/)) Domain Name:
> PILLSUPPLIER.COM Created on: 08-Sep-03 Expires on: 08-Sep-
> 04 Last Updated on: 06-May-04 Administrative Contact:
> Private, Registration PILLSUPPLIER.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
> Domain servers in listed order: NS.PILLSUPPLIER.COM
> NSX.PILLSUPPLIER.COM
>
> Then you locate their address and you find that the
> company known as DomainsByProxy.com is hiding their
> location in a UPS (formerly MBE - Mailboxes, Etc.)
> location:
>
> http://www.mbe.com/hpgen/CenterPage.asp?strCenterNum-
> =MBE1669
>
> Now why would they do that? Are they afraid that someone
> might want to locate their offices to file a complaint?
>
> Isn't that curious. They have no Adminitrative contact
> listed. These bozos could be anywhere in the world. They
> may not even be in North America. They use a mailbox
> drop, too.
>
> Then you try to see who Domainsbyproxy.com (DBP) is and
> you get even murkier. But you find out that DBP is
> commited to protect the identity of any of their users
> at any cost unless there are legal proceedings against
> them. If a consumer complained they could probably just
> ignore you.
>
> So anyone can use them to set up an anonymous URL. They
> could be in Timbuktu, or Waterloo.
>
> http://www.domainsbyproxy.com (http://www.domainsbyproxy.com/)
>
> When you plug their ISP number 67.15.38.23 into Sam Spade
> you get a location in Houston, Texas.
>
> http://www.samspade.org/t/whois?a=67.15.38.23;server=auto
>
> Here is what DBP says on their web site:
>
> Did you know that for each domain name you register,
> anyone - anywhere, anytime - can find out your name, home
> address, phone number and email address?
>
> The law requires that the personal information you provide
> with every domain you register be made public in the
> "WHOIS" database. Your identity becomes instantly
> available - and vulnerable - to spammers, scammers, prying
> eyes and worse.
>
> But now there's a solution: Domains By Proxy!
>
>
> Now why in the world would anyone want to advertise the
> Advanced Wholistic retreat centre, which is located in a
> small Ontario town, on an internet site that hawks
> dangerous prescription drugs over the internet, who hides
> their identity AND location? Furthermore, who is Roger
> King, what are his qualifications, and who are the doctors
> and pharmacists who work for his operation?
>
> Dave, you don't obviously know what you are getting
> into here. If you don't own the Advanced Wholistic
> clinic, then tell us who does, and tell us their
> qualifications, please?
>
> Your defense of an unregulated industry is unimaginable.
> It is dangerous, and you are obviously out of your
> league here.
>
> How can a ginseng pedlar like you, or your associates,
> support internet pharmacies?
>
> How can you, or your associates, advertise a wholistic
> retreat on one of those sites?
>
> The internet pharmacy has been reported to the proper
> authorities so that they can deal with it.
>
> So, why don't you ask your friends to remove the
> advertisement from the site in question and apologize to
> your fans.
>
> Terry
>
>
>
>
> "Dave Wickware" <dwickware@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:<arsFc.93537$Ax1.1324828@news20.bellglobal.com>...
> > Terry Polevoy seems to be taunting me to some end known
> > only to himself
, by
> > suggesting some things that are untrue. First he says
> > that I own the Advanced Wholistic Centre. I am a patient
> > of the doctor of holistic
medicine
> > who owns it. Since she is not a licensed physicician she
> > can't prescribe prescription drugs. Since she is a
> > wholistic, intuitive doctor, she would never be aparty
> > to selling drugs. She refers her patients to
their
> > doctors for that.
> >
> > http://www.pillsupplier.com/
> >
> >
> > Next he posts a review which simply copies and pastes
> > some information
from
> > the Advanced Wholistic Centre website and then says that
> > we own a company of physicians named
PillSupplier
> > in Arizona. This is pretty unacceptable behaviour and
> > shows what he stands for. Here is Terry's
post.
> >
> > http://www.pillsupplier.com/add_review/review54837.html
> >
> > I have contacted PillSupplier and requested some things
> > from them in
this
> > regard. I guess when I said Terry Polevoy means nothing
> > to me, I must have hurt his feelings. I did not mean to,
its
> > just that to me, he is not relevent.
> >
> > PillSupplier.com is dedicated to providing cutting-edge
> > medicine through Internet technology. Our physicians
> > specialize in consulting with privacy-minded individuals
> > and prescribing popular medications. These medications,
> > sometimes called "embarrassment" drugs, are prescribed
> > and dispensed by our physicians and pharmacists!
> >
> > As one of our patients, you are able to: 1- Enjoy
> > complete privacy, discretion, and dignity while
> > addressing your condition. 2- Play an active role and
> > participate more fully in your own process of care. 3-
> > Enjoy your health care in an enlightened manner and
> > maintain better health. 4- Enjoy a professional
> > consultation at an affordable cost.
> >
> > More and more individuals have become weary of the
> > medical profession's attitude toward patient care.
> > Patients are often left with little or no choice as to
> > their course of treatment or what medications they are
> > permitted to take. Our physicians are dedicated to
> > helping you make your own medical
decisions.
> > We are here to provide you with the professional
> > consultation you need
to
> > decide which plan of care is right for you. You are a
> > partner with us in
the
> > medical decision-making process.
> >
> > Many patients prefer the anonymity of an online
> > consultation as opposed
to a
> > conversation with one's personal physician. The patient
> > is benefited by technology. Although computers are often
> > dismissed as dehumanizing,
their
> > use in online consultations greatly eases the patients'
> > anxiety about discussing their medical conditions.
> >
> > It is not our position that the Internet could ever
> > replace the
importance
> > of seeing your doctor regularly, in person. It is
> > important that you seriously consider a full physical
> > exam specifically to evaluate
possible
> > causes for your problem. The issuance of medication does
> > not replace the need for a physical exam.
> >
> > On behalf of PillSupplier.com, I'd like thank you--our
> > customers--for helping make us the world's foremost
> > online pharmacy. Your continued
support
> > and business are truly appreciated. We are grateful that
> > we are able to offer you our services and that we have
> > made such an impact in the
health
> > and wellbeing of so many people's lives.
> >
> > Sincerely, Roger King President, PillSupplier.com

[Terry Polevoy]

"Dave Wickware" <dwickware@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<lsyFc.96974$Ax1.1351612@news20.bellglobal.com>...
> Then your acqusation that this is in any way affiliated
> with the Advanced Wholistic Centre is a total
> fabrication by you.

No Dave - I did not say taht the Advanced Wholistic Centre
in Waterloo, or Pt. Elgin locations, both in Ontario, Canada
were affiliated with PillSupplier.com.

I said that Advanced Wholistic Centre advertised on their
site. How else did an easy Google search for pillsupplier
advanced wholistic find this in 0.10 sec?

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-
8&oe=UTF-8&q=pillsupplier+advanced+wholistic

Advanced Wholistic Centre

Title: Advanced Wholistic Centre URL:
http://www.advancedwholisticcentre.com/ Description: A
natural healing retreat center. Reiki, aromatherapy,
herbology, iridology, and therapeutic touch. Located on
100 acres of natural woodlands just outside of Port
Elgin, Ontario

Statistics Added: Mon Sep 01 2003 Hits: 0 Rating: 0.00
Votes: 0

You can see that not one person who uses their site had
visited your site according to their web page. But, hey, who
the hell trusts anyone who runs this kind of secretive
operation.

These people could be located in China for all we know,
couldn't they. Anyone who does business like this, and who
uses an ISP that is located in a MBE location (Now UPS
Store) has to have dubious intentions. They intend to sell
drugs to anyone who wants them. Who are their pharmacists?
Who are their doctors who would sell dangerous drugs to
strangers?

So, don't tell me that Advanced Wholistic Centre's owners or
employees woke up one morning last September and accidently
signed up to have their centre added to their online lists.

Terry

>
> "Terry Polevoy" <info@healthwatcher.net> wrote in message
> news:d0acb77d.0407030359.6cb5e49c@posting.google.com...
> > Dave Wickware has no idea of the seriousness of what
> > internet pharmacies can do.
> >
> > First of all pillsupplier.com has a secret address. They
> > hide themselves through a thick layer of security.
> >
> > They are not on the approved list of internet pharmacies
> > that is maintained by the National Association of Boards
> > of Pharmacy. That means that what pillsupplier.com does
> > implies risks that I would not take, and anyone who uses
> > or recommends that on-line URL ought to have their head
> > examined.
> >
> > http://www.nabp.net/
> >
> > Try to track down who pillsupplier.com really is and you
> > are out of luck. When you go to Godaddy.com to find out
> > who they are and go to their whois section you may think
> > that they are in Arizona, but you may be wrong:
> >
> > WHOIS Search Results for: PILLSUPPLIER.COM
> >
> > The data contained in Go Daddy Software, Inc.'s WHOIS
> > database,while believed by the company to be reliable,
> > is provided "as is"with no guarantee or warranties
> > regarding its accuracy. Thisinformation is provided for
> > the sole purpose of assisting youin obtaining
> > information about domain name registration records.Any
> > use of this data for any other purpose is expressly
> > forbidden without the prior writtenpermission of Go
> > Daddy Software, Inc. By submitting an inquiry,you agree
> > to these terms of usage and limitations of warranty. In
> > particular,you agree not to use this data to allow,
> > enable, or otherwise make possible,dissemination or
> > collection of this data, in part or in its entirety, for
> > anypurpose, such as the transmission of unsolicited
> > advertising andand solicitations of any kind, including
> > spam. You further agreenot to use this data to enable
> > high volume, automated or robotic electronicprocesses
> > designed to collect or compile this data for any
> > purpose,including mining this data for your own personal
> > or commercial purposes. Please note: the registrant of
> > the domain name is specifiedin the "registrant" field.
> > In most cases, Go Daddy Software, Inc. is not the
> > registrant of domain names listed in this
> > database.Registrant:
> >
> > Domains by Proxy, Inc. 15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
> > PMB353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States
> > Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com/))
> > Domain Name: PILLSUPPLIER.COM Created on: 08-Sep-03
> > Expires on: 08-Sep-04 Last Updated on: 06-May-04
> > Administrative Contact: Private, Registration
> > PILLSUPPLIER.COM@domainsbyproxy.com Domain servers in
> > listed order: NS.PILLSUPPLIER.COM NSX.PILLSUPPLIER.COM
> >
> > Then you locate their address and you find that the
> > company known as DomainsByProxy.com is hiding their
> > location in a UPS (formerly MBE - Mailboxes, Etc.)
> > location:
> >
> > http://www.mbe.com/hpgen/CenterPage.asp?strCenterNum=M-
> > BE1669
> >
> > Now why would they do that? Are they afraid that someone
> > might want to locate their offices to file a complaint?
> >
> > Isn't that curious. They have no Adminitrative contact
> > listed. These bozos could be anywhere in the world. They
> > may not even be in North America. They use a mailbox
> > drop, too.
> >
> > Then you try to see who Domainsbyproxy.com (DBP) is and
> > you get even murkier. But you find out that DBP is
> > commited to protect the identity of any of their users
> > at any cost unless there are legal proceedings against
> > them. If a consumer complained they could probably just
> > ignore you.
> >
> > So anyone can use them to set up an anonymous URL. They
> > could be in Timbuktu, or Waterloo.
> >
> > http://www.domainsbyproxy.com (http://www.domainsbyproxy.com/)
> >
> > When you plug their ISP number 67.15.38.23 into Sam
> > Spade you get a location in Houston, Texas.
> >
> > http://www.samspade.org/t/whois?a=67.15.38.23;serve-
> > r=auto
> >
> > Here is what DBP says on their web site:
> >
> > Did you know that for each domain name you register,
> > anyone - anywhere, anytime - can find out your name,
> > home address, phone number and email address?
> >
> > The law requires that the personal information you
> > provide with every domain you register be made public in
> > the "WHOIS" database. Your identity becomes instantly
> > available - and vulnerable - to spammers, scammers,
> > prying eyes and worse.
> >
> > But now there's a solution: Domains By Proxy!
> >
> >
> > Now why in the world would anyone want to advertise the
> > Advanced Wholistic retreat centre, which is located in a
> > small Ontario town, on an internet site that hawks
> > dangerous prescription drugs over the internet, who
> > hides their identity AND location? Furthermore, who is
> > Roger King, what are his qualifications, and who are the
> > doctors and pharmacists who work for his operation?
> >
> > Dave, you don't obviously know what you are getting into
> > here. If you don't own the Advanced Wholistic clinic,
> > then tell us who does, and tell us their qualifications,
> > please?
> >
> > Your defense of an unregulated industry is unimaginable.
> > It is dangerous, and you are obviously out of your
> > league here.
> >
> > How can a ginseng pedlar like you, or your associates,
> > support internet pharmacies?
> >
> > How can you, or your associates, advertise a wholistic
> > retreat on one of those sites?
> >
> > The internet pharmacy has been reported to the proper
> > authorities so that they can deal with it.
> >
> > So, why don't you ask your friends to remove the
> > advertisement from the site in question and apologize to
> > your fans.
> >
> > Terry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Dave Wickware" <dwickware@sympatico.ca> wrote in
> > message
> news:<arsFc.93537$Ax1.1324828@news20.bellglobal.com>...
> > > Terry Polevoy seems to be taunting me to some end
> > > known only to himself
> , by
> > > suggesting some things that are untrue. First he says
> > > that I own the Advanced Wholistic Centre. I am a
> > > patient of the doctor of holistic
> medicine
> > > who owns it. Since she is not a licensed physicician
> > > she can't prescribe prescription drugs. Since she is a
> > > wholistic, intuitive doctor, she would never be aparty
> > > to selling drugs. She refers her patients to
> their
> > > doctors for that.
> > >
> > > http://www.pillsupplier.com/
> > >
> > >
> > > Next he posts a review which simply copies and pastes
> > > some information
> from
> > > the Advanced Wholistic Centre website and then says
> > > that we own a company of physicians named
> PillSupplier
> > > in Arizona. This is pretty unacceptable behaviour and
> > > shows what he stands for. Here is Terry's
> post.
> > >
> > > http://www.pillsupplier.com/add_review/review54837.-
> > > html
> > >
> > > I have contacted PillSupplier and requested some
> > > things from them in
> this
> > > regard. I guess when I said Terry Polevoy means
> > > nothing to me, I must have hurt his feelings. I did
> > > not mean to,
> its
> > > just that to me, he is not relevent.
> > >
> > > PillSupplier.com is dedicated to providing cutting-
> > > edge medicine through Internet technology. Our
> > > physicians specialize in consulting with privacy-
> > > minded individuals and prescribing popular
> > > medications. These medications, sometimes called
> > > "embarrassment" drugs, are prescribed and dispensed by
> > > our physicians and pharmacists!
> > >
> > > As one of our patients, you are able to: 1- Enjoy
> > > complete privacy, discretion, and dignity while
> > > addressing your condition. 2- Play an active role and
> > > participate more fully in your own process of care. 3-
> > > Enjoy your health care in an enlightened manner and
> > > maintain better health. 4- Enjoy a professional
> > > consultation at an affordable cost.
> > >
> > > More and more individuals have become weary of the
> > > medical profession's attitude toward patient care.
> > > Patients are often left with little or no choice as to
> > > their course of treatment or what medications they are
> > > permitted to take. Our physicians are dedicated to
> > > helping you make your own medical
> decisions.
> > > We are here to provide you with the professional
> > > consultation you need
> to
> > > decide which plan of care is right for you. You are a
> > > partner with us in
> the
> > > medical decision-making process.
> > >
> > > Many patients prefer the anonymity of an online
> > > consultation as opposed
> to a
> > > conversation with one's personal physician. The
> > > patient is benefited by technology. Although computers
> > > are often dismissed as dehumanizing,
> their
> > > use in online consultations greatly eases the
> > > patients' anxiety about discussing their medical
> > > conditions.
> > >
> > > It is not our position that the Internet could ever
> > > replace the
> importance
> > > of seeing your doctor regularly, in person. It is
> > > important that you seriously consider a full physical
> > > exam specifically to evaluate
> possible
> > > causes for your problem. The issuance of medication
> > > does not replace the need for a physical exam.
> > >
> > > On behalf of PillSupplier.com, I'd like thank you--our
> > > customers--for helping make us the world's foremost
> > > online pharmacy. Your continued
> support
> > > and business are truly appreciated. We are grateful
> > > that we are able to offer you our services and that we
> > > have made such an impact in the
> health
> > > and wellbeing of so many people's lives.
> > >
> > > Sincerely, Roger King President, PillSupplier.com

[Dave Wickware]

Did you stop to consider why a holistic doctor in Ontario
Canada would advertise on a U.S. website in Arizona. Also if
you stopped to look you would see that the link is a review
written by a member of that site, not an advertisement.

I know you are craving affection, but I can not humor
you further.

"Terry Polevoy" <info@healthwatcher.net> wrote in message
news:d0acb77d.0407031502.23dfa57d@posting.google.com...
> "Dave Wickware" <dwickware@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:<lsyFc.96974$Ax1.1351612@news20.bellglobal.com>...
> > Then your acqusation that this is in any way affiliated
> > with the
Advanced
> > Wholistic Centre is a total fabrication by you.
>
> No Dave - I did not say taht the Advanced Wholistic Centre
> in Waterloo, or Pt. Elgin locations, both in Ontario,
> Canada were affiliated with PillSupplier.com.
>
> I said that Advanced Wholistic Centre advertised on their
> site. How else did an easy Google search for pillsupplier
> advanced wholistic find this in 0.10 sec?
>
>
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-
8&oe=UTF-8&q=pillsupplier+advanced+wholistic
>
> Advanced Wholistic Centre
>
> Title: Advanced Wholistic Centre URL:
> http://www.advancedwholisticcentre.com/ Description: A
> natural healing retreat center. Reiki, aromatherapy,
> herbology, iridology, and therapeutic touch. Located on
> 100 acres of natural woodlands just outside of Port
> Elgin, Ontario
>
> Statistics Added: Mon Sep 01 2003 Hits: 0 Rating: 0.00
> Votes: 0
>
> You can see that not one person who uses their site had
> visited your site according to their web page. But, hey,
> who the hell trusts anyone who runs this kind of secretive
> operation.
>
> These people could be located in China for all we know,
> couldn't they. Anyone who does business like this, and who
> uses an ISP that is located in a MBE location (Now UPS
> Store) has to have dubious intentions. They intend to sell
> drugs to anyone who wants them. Who are their pharmacists?
> Who are their doctors who would sell dangerous drugs to
> strangers?
>
> So, don't tell me that Advanced Wholistic Centre's owners
> or employees woke up one morning last September and
> accidently signed up to have their centre added to their
> online lists.
>
> Terry
>
>
> >
> > "Terry Polevoy" <info@healthwatcher.net> wrote in
> > message
> > news:d0acb77d.0407030359.6cb5e49c@posting.google.com...
> > > Dave Wickware has no idea of the seriousness of what
> > > internet pharmacies can do.
> > >
> > > First of all pillsupplier.com has a secret address.
> > > They hide themselves through a thick layer of
> > > security.
> > >
> > > They are not on the approved list of internet
> > > pharmacies that is maintained by the National
> > > Association of Boards of Pharmacy. That means that
> > > what pillsupplier.com does implies risks that I would
> > > not take, and anyone who uses or recommends that on-
> > > line URL ought to have their head examined.
> > >
> > > http://www.nabp.net/
> > >
> > > Try to track down who pillsupplier.com really is and
> > > you are out of luck. When you go to Godaddy.com to
> > > find out who they are and go to their whois section
> > > you may think that they are in Arizona, but you may be
> > > wrong:
> > >
> > > WHOIS Search Results for: PILLSUPPLIER.COM
> > >
> > > The data contained in Go Daddy Software, Inc.'s WHOIS
> > > database,while believed by the company to be reliable,
> > > is provided "as is"with no guarantee or warranties
> > > regarding its accuracy. Thisinformation is provided
> > > for the sole purpose of assisting youin obtaining
> > > information about domain name registration records.Any
> > > use of this data for any other purpose is expressly
> > > forbidden without the prior writtenpermission of Go
> > > Daddy Software, Inc. By submitting an inquiry,you
> > > agree to these terms of usage and limitations of
> > > warranty. In particular,you agree not to use this data
> > > to allow, enable, or otherwise make
> > > possible,dissemination or collection of this data, in
> > > part or in its entirety, for anypurpose, such as the
> > > transmission of unsolicited advertising andand
> > > solicitations of any kind, including spam. You further
> > > agreenot to use this data to enable high volume,
> > > automated or robotic electronicprocesses designed to
> > > collect or compile this data for any purpose,including
> > > mining this data for your own personal or commercial
> > > purposes. Please note: the registrant of the domain
> > > name is specifiedin the "registrant" field. In most
> > > cases, Go Daddy Software, Inc. is not the registrant
> > > of domain names listed in this database.Registrant:
> > >
> > > Domains by Proxy, Inc. 15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
> > > PMB353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States
> > > Registered through: GoDaddy.com
> > > (http://www.godaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com/)) Domain Name: PILLSUPPLIER.COM
> > > Created on: 08-Sep-03 Expires on: 08-Sep-04 Last
> > > Updated on: 06-May-04 Administrative Contact: Private,
> > > Registration PILLSUPPLIER.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
> > > Domain servers in listed order: NS.PILLSUPPLIER.COM
> > > NSX.PILLSUPPLIER.COM
> > >
> > > Then you locate their address and you find that the
> > > company known as DomainsByProxy.com is hiding their
> > > location in a UPS (formerly MBE - Mailboxes, Etc.)
> > > location:
> > >
> > > http://www.mbe.com/hpgen/CenterPage.asp?strCenterNum=-
> > > MBE1669
> > >
> > > Now why would they do that? Are they afraid that
> > > someone might want to locate their offices to file a
> > > complaint?
> > >
> > > Isn't that curious. They have no Adminitrative contact
> > > listed. These bozos could be anywhere in the world.
> > > They may not even be in North America. They use a
> > > mailbox drop, too.
> > >
> > > Then you try to see who Domainsbyproxy.com (DBP) is
> > > and you get even murkier. But you find out that DBP is
> > > commited to protect the identity of any of their users
> > > at any cost unless there are legal proceedings against
> > > them. If a consumer complained they could probably
> > > just ignore you.
> > >
> > > So anyone can use them to set up an anonymous URL.
> > > They could be in Timbuktu, or Waterloo.
> > >
> > > http://www.domainsbyproxy.com (http://www.domainsbyproxy.com/)
> > >
> > > When you plug their ISP number 67.15.38.23 into Sam
> > > Spade you get a location in Houston, Texas.
> > >
> > > http://www.samspade.org/t/whois?a=67.15.38.23;server=-
> > > auto
> > >
> > > Here is what DBP says on their web site:
> > >
> > > Did you know that for each domain name you register,
> > > anyone - anywhere, anytime - can find out your name,
> > > home address, phone number and email address?
> > >
> > > The law requires that the personal information you
> > > provide with every domain you register be made public
> > > in the "WHOIS" database. Your identity becomes
> > > instantly available - and vulnerable - to spammers,
> > > scammers, prying eyes and worse.
> > >
> > > But now there's a solution: Domains By Proxy!
> > >
> > >
> > > Now why in the world would anyone want to advertise
> > > the Advanced Wholistic retreat centre, which is
> > > located in a small Ontario town, on an internet site
> > > that hawks dangerous prescription drugs over the
> > > internet, who hides their identity AND location?
> > > Furthermore, who is Roger King, what are his
> > > qualifications, and who are the doctors and
> > > pharmacists who work for his operation?
> > >
> > > Dave, you don't obviously know what you are getting
> > > into here. If you don't own the Advanced Wholistic
> > > clinic, then tell us who does, and tell us their
> > > qualifications, please?
> > >
> > > Your defense of an unregulated industry is
> > > unimaginable. It is dangerous, and you are obviously
> > > out of your league here.
> > >
> > > How can a ginseng pedlar like you, or your associates,
> > > support internet pharmacies?
> > >
> > > How can you, or your associates, advertise a wholistic
> > > retreat on one of those sites?
> > >
> > > The internet pharmacy has been reported to the proper
> > > authorities so that they can deal with it.
> > >
> > > So, why don't you ask your friends to remove the
> > > advertisement from the site in question and apologize
> > > to your fans.
> > >
> > > Terry
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Dave Wickware" <dwickware@sympatico.ca> wrote in
> > > message
> > news:<arsFc.93537$Ax1.1324828@news20.bellglobal.com>...
> > > > Terry Polevoy seems to be taunting me to some end
> > > > known only to
himself
> > , by
> > > > suggesting some things that are untrue. First he
> > > > says that I own the Advanced Wholistic Centre. I am
> > > > a patient of the doctor of holistic
> > medicine
> > > > who owns it. Since she is not a licensed physicician
> > > > she can't
prescribe
> > > > prescription drugs. Since she is a wholistic,
> > > > intuitive doctor, she would never be aparty to
> > > > selling drugs. She refers her patients
to
> > their
> > > > doctors for that.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.pillsupplier.com/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Next he posts a review which simply copies and
> > > > pastes some
information
> > from
> > > > the Advanced Wholistic Centre website and then says
> > > > that we own a company of physicians named
> > PillSupplier
> > > > in Arizona. This is pretty unacceptable behaviour
> > > > and shows what he stands for. Here is Terry's
> > post.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.pillsupplier.com/add_review/review54837.-
> > > > html
> > > >
> > > > I have contacted PillSupplier and requested some
> > > > things from them in
> > this
> > > > regard. I guess when I said Terry Polevoy means
> > > > nothing to me, I must have hurt his feelings. I did
> > > > not mean
to,
> > its
> > > > just that to me, he is not relevent.
> > > >
> > > > PillSupplier.com is dedicated to providing cutting-
> > > > edge medicine
through
> > > > Internet technology. Our physicians specialize in
> > > > consulting with privacy-minded individuals and
> > > > prescribing popular medications.
These
> > > > medications, sometimes called "embarrassment" drugs,
> > > > are prescribed
and
> > > > dispensed by our physicians and pharmacists!
> > > >
> > > > As one of our patients, you are able to: 1- Enjoy
> > > > complete privacy, discretion, and dignity while
> > > > addressing
your
> > > > condition. 2- Play an active role and participate
> > > > more fully in your own
process of
> > > > care. 3- Enjoy your health care in an enlightened
> > > > manner and maintain
better
> > > > health. 4- Enjoy a professional consultation at an
> > > > affordable cost.
> > > >
> > > > More and more individuals have become weary of the
> > > > medical
profession's
> > > > attitude toward patient care. Patients are often
> > > > left with little or
no
> > > > choice as to their course of treatment or what
> > > > medications they are permitted to take. Our
> > > > physicians are dedicated to helping you make your
> > > > own medical
> > decisions.
> > > > We are here to provide you with the professional
> > > > consultation you
need
> > to
> > > > decide which plan of care is right for you. You are
> > > > a partner with
us in
> > the
> > > > medical decision-making process.
> > > >
> > > > Many patients prefer the anonymity of an online
> > > > consultation as
opposed
> > to a
> > > > conversation with one's personal physician. The
> > > > patient is benefited
by
> > > > technology. Although computers are often dismissed
> > > > as dehumanizing,
> > their
> > > > use in online consultations greatly eases the
> > > > patients' anxiety
about
> > > > discussing their medical conditions.
> > > >
> > > > It is not our position that the Internet could ever
> > > > replace the
> > importance
> > > > of seeing your doctor regularly, in person. It is
> > > > important that you seriously consider a full
> > > > physical exam specifically to evaluate
> > possible
> > > > causes for your problem. The issuance of medication
> > > > does not replace
the
> > > > need for a physical exam.
> > > >
> > > > On behalf of PillSupplier.com, I'd like thank you--
> > > > our
customers--for
> > > > helping make us the world's foremost online
> > > > pharmacy. Your continued
> > support
> > > > and business are truly appreciated. We are grateful
> > > > that we are able
to
> > > > offer you our services and that we have made such an
> > > > impact in the
> > health
> > > > and wellbeing of so many people's lives.
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely, Roger King President, PillSupplier.com

[Terry Polevoy]

WARNINING!!!! --- ONLINE PHARMACIES CAN BE DANGEROUS TO
YOUR HEALTH

http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2F-
MGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031776480752&-
path=!business&s=1037645507703

Sunday, July 4, 2004 A Hard Dose Customers of online
pharmacies are warned of scams involving fake or
harmful drugs

By M. Paul Jackson JOURNAL REPORTER

Kristi Vlahos, a pharmacist at the Jonestown Pharmacy in Winston-
Salem, is used to seeing scams come across her counter.

The last one, an advertisement faxed to her pharmacy,
advertised a birth-control patch. The patch, which is worn
on a patients' body, functions much like a birth-control
pill and can control a woman's ovulation cycle.

But if a patient orders the medication - available over the
Internet from an offshore drug retailer - the package
usually contains no medication, leaving patients tricked
into buying a worthless product, Vlahos said.

"You have to be absolutely positive" about ordering drugs
online, she said. "Anybody can make a Web site and send out
a bunch of spam."

Vlahos isn't the only person warning customers about online
drug scams.

As more and more consumers turn to the Internet to do their
shopping, a host of online pharmaceutical scams are leaving
more patients at risk of receiving possibly dangerous drugs,
officials say.

According to the U.S. General Accounting Office, drugs
bought online from other countries - including Argentina,
Spain, Thailand, Pakistan and Turkey - are more likely to
contain harmful substances or inadequate instructions than
those purchased in the United States or Canada. Last month,
the GAO released a study about online drug sales.

Kristi Vlahos' husband Ike, a co-owner of the pharmacy,
agreed. Internet scams "are all over the place," he said.
"It's a risk out there that people don't really realize."

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services has begun
sending informational fliers to drugstores, warning
customers that the drugs they purchase online might be fake
or have dangerous side effects. Vlahos received her warning
fliers about a month ago, she said.

Online pharmaceutical shopping is nothing new. Customers
began turning to the Internet for drugs in the late 1990s.
The service allows customers to shop virtually around the
clock and easily compare prices from multiple outlets.
Because online drugstores have less overhead, prices are
typically cheaper.

About 9 million people bought or refilled a drug
prescription over the Internet last year, according to
Manhattan Research, a health-care marketing research company
in New York. Overall, about 26 million people used the
Internet for drug information in 2003, more than double the
amount that did so in 2002, according to the company.

Some online-dedicated companies do charge less than the
national drug outlets' online service.

CVS.com, the drug retailer's online service, sells a 20-mg
bottle of Cialis for about $66 for 6 tablets - about $11
a pill. In contrast, Cutprice12.com, an online drug
retailer, sells the same drug for about $9

Similarly, Eckerd.com offers a 25-mg prescription of Vioxx,
a popular medication for arthritis, for about $268 for 100
pills. Cutprice12.com offers 120 pills for about $150,
according to the site.

Cutprice12.com, whose ads can frequently show up in a
consumer's e-mail inbox, does not require a prescription
from a doctor.

Under federal law, it is illegal to dispense prescription
drugs without a valid prescription and to ship drugs that
are not approved by the Food and Drug Administration

In the GAO study, federal officials ordered about 11
drugs from 68 Web sites, including overseas, U.S. and
Canadian sites.

About 24 national and 21 foreign Web sites did not require
prescriptions, and none of the foreign sites included
pharmacy labels instructing customers about proper use of
their medications, according to the agency. About six orders
were never even received despite prepayment.

"It's a 'buyer beware' situation," said David Work, the
executive director of the N.C. Board of Pharmacy, which
investigates cases of online drug fraud.

"As people get more and more comfortable on the Internet,
this kind of thing could increase,"he said. "I don't
think the public realizes how much they depend on
prescription drugs."

Others agreed. Mike Blankenship, a pharmacist at Andrews
Pharmacy in Winston-Salem, said that some consumers can be
tricked into ordering products that contain no medication,
such as a scam involving Lipitor, a drug for managing
cholesterol. For many patients, buying drugs online is
similar to using tobacco, Blankenship said. "They know it's
not the absolute best thing in the world, but they're using
it anyway."

To be sure, online-pharmacy companies do represent growing
competition for the traditional brick-and-mortar pharmacy.
Apart from lower prices, buying drugs online is also
convenient, especially for patients in rural areas who may
have limited access to pharmacies, said Erika Fishman, a
company senior analyst for Manhattan Research.

Online sales are increasing "because consumers are taking
advantage of international markets," Fishman said.

Ironically, those are the markets that seem to be scamming
customers the most. Joyce Tipton, the assistant director of
pharmacy for Wake Forest University Baptist Medical Center,
said that some online drugstores are legitimate, but she
warned consumers that many others are not.

"There's no guarantee they may be getting the real
drug," she said.

The National Association of Boards of Pharmacy maintains a
certified list of licensed pharmacies, called the Verified
Internet Pharmacies List, that legally sell drugs online.
That list is available on the association's Web site.

Work also suggested that the federal government begin
to punish shipping companies who willingly deliver
illegal drugs.

But if the online drugs are cheaper, can the industry expect
a halt to the practice? Work says no.

He acknowledged that shoppers can save money online, but
cautioned that the savings are not worth the risk.

"We're approaching this from a health and safety issue," he
said, "and in this case, it is definitely a safety issue."

M. Paul Jackson can be reached at 727-7473 or at
mjackson@wsjournal.com

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> WARNINING!!!! --- ONLINE PHARMACIES CAN BE DANGEROUS TO
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