lipid results after 3 months of pantethine supplementation

[Susan]

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Low carbing dramatically lowered me to a below average CVD
risk when I first began it, years ago, but once weight loss
stopped, my numbers crept back up, though my risk was still
1/2 of what it had been on low fat, high carb dieting.

Several months back, I began drinking small amounts of red
wine, for pleasure. Less than a glass a day, some weeks
none. My HDL bounced back up to 60 from
50.

Three months or so ago, I began taking pantethine, a
supplement with lots of good literature behind it
demonstrating great lipid improvements with a very good
safety profile. Dr. Atkins recommended this one, and his is
the only brand that came in the dosage I decided to
experiment with, so I bought it and that's what I used,
450mg twice per day, for three months.

My doctor and I were just floored today by the improvements
in my profile. I'm now well below average in CVD risk
profile, and with my ratios, I see no reason to even care if
my numbers go into the recommended ranges for each fraction.

Feb. Results:

Total chol. 282 LDL 196 HDL 61 TGL 124 Chol/HDL ratio: 4.6
(below 4 is good) HDL/TGL ratio: 2.0 (below 3 means low CVD
risk and non damaging LDL particles)

June results:

TC 229 LDL 129 HDL 70 (!!) TGL 152 (direct result of a
sugary/carbyish few days before, I'm always 124 or below on
low carb) Chol/HDL ratio: 3.3, well below average! HDL/TGL
ratio: 2.17, still excellent

I come from a family with a long history of death by age
50 due to atherosclerosis, and unless I'm actively losing
weight, my lipids are tough to manage, even on low
calorie low carb.

Pantethine is on my shelf for good. It's a lot cheaper than
statins and safer than them and niacin, and the results are
incredible, I think.

I feel so much better with below average risk than I did
just cutting mine to average. The average american dies of a
heart attack.

My doc is delighted. No more talk of statins.

I have a collection of good scientific abstracts that led me
to try this that I can email to anyone who's interested.

Susan

[George]

Congratulations on your improved numbers. Do you exercise?
Might help to improve the numbers more. Also am curious
whether you are overweight.

Thank you.

"Susan " <sufein@aol.comnospam> wrote in message news:20040702160212.23811.00001123@mb-
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> x-no-archive: yes
>
> Low carbing dramatically lowered me to a below average CVD
> risk when I
first
> began it, years ago, but once weight loss stopped, my
> numbers crept back
up,
> though my risk was still 1/2 of what it had been on low
> fat, high carb
dieting.
>
> Several months back, I began drinking small amounts of red
> wine, for
pleasure.
> Less than a glass a day, some weeks none. My HDL bounced
> back up to 60
from
> 50.
>
> Three months or so ago, I began taking pantethine, a
> supplement with lots
of
> good literature behind it demonstrating great lipid
> improvements with a
very
> good safety profile. Dr. Atkins recommended this one, and
> his is the only brand that came in the dosage I decided to
> experiment with, so I bought it
and
> that's what I used, 450mg twice per day, for three months.
>
> My doctor and I were just floored today by the
> improvements in my profile.
I'm
> now well below average in CVD risk profile, and with my
> ratios, I see no
reason
> to even care if my numbers go into the recommended ranges
> for each
fraction.
>
> Feb. Results:
>
> Total chol. 282 LDL 196 HDL 61 TGL 124 Chol/HDL ratio: 4.6
> (below 4 is good) HDL/TGL ratio: 2.0 (below 3 means low
> CVD risk and non damaging LDL
particles)
>
> June results:
>
> TC 229 LDL 129 HDL 70 (!!) TGL 152 (direct result of a
> sugary/carbyish few days before, I'm always
124
> or below on low carb) Chol/HDL ratio: 3.3, well below
> average! HDL/TGL ratio: 2.17, still excellent
>
> I come from a family with a long history of death by age
> 50 due to atherosclerosis, and unless I'm actively losing
> weight, my lipids are
tough to
> manage, even on low calorie low carb.
>
> Pantethine is on my shelf for good. It's a lot cheaper
> than statins and
safer
> than them and niacin, and the results are incredible,
> I think.
>
> I feel so much better with below average risk than I did
> just cutting mine
to
> average. The average american dies of a heart attack.
>
> My doc is delighted. No more talk of statins.
>
> I have a collection of good scientific abstracts that led
> me to try this
that I
> can email to anyone who's interested.
>
> Susan

[Dr. Andrew B. C]

Susan wrote:
>
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> Low carbing dramatically lowered me to a below average CVD
> risk when I first began it, years ago, but once weight
> loss stopped, my numbers crept back up, though my risk was
> still 1/2 of what it had been on low fat, high carb
> dieting.
>
> Several months back, I began drinking small amounts of red
> wine, for pleasure. Less than a glass a day, some weeks
> none. My HDL bounced back up to 60 from
> 50.
>
> Three months or so ago, I began taking pantethine, a
> supplement with lots of good literature behind it
> demonstrating great lipid improvements with a very good
> safety profile. Dr. Atkins recommended this one, and his
> is the only brand that came in the dosage I decided to
> experiment with, so I bought it and that's what I used,
> 450mg twice per day, for three months.
>
> My doctor and I were just floored today by the
> improvements in my profile. I'm now well below average in
> CVD risk profile, and with my ratios, I see no reason to
> even care if my numbers go into the recommended ranges for
> each fraction.
>
> Feb. Results:
>
> Total chol. 282 LDL 196 HDL 61 TGL 124 Chol/HDL ratio: 4.6
> (below 4 is good) HDL/TGL ratio: 2.0 (below 3 means low
> CVD risk and non damaging LDL particles)
>
> June results:
>
> TC 229 LDL 129 HDL 70 (!!) TGL 152 (direct result of a
> sugary/carbyish few days before, I'm always 124 or below
> on low carb) Chol/HDL ratio: 3.3, well below average!
> HDL/TGL ratio: 2.17, still excellent
>
> I come from a family with a long history of death by age
> 50 due to atherosclerosis, and unless I'm actively losing
> weight, my lipids are tough to manage, even on low calorie
> low carb.
>
> Pantethine is on my shelf for good. It's a lot cheaper
> than statins and safer than them and niacin, and the
> results are incredible, I think.
>
> I feel so much better with below average risk than I did
> just cutting mine to average. The average american dies of
> a heart attack.
>
> My doc is delighted. No more talk of statins.
>
> I have a collection of good scientific abstracts that led
> me to try this that I can email to anyone who's
> interested.
>
> Susan

Thanks for sharing.

Are you still low-carbing?

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[Susan]

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>
>Congratulations on your improved >numbers.

> Do you exercise? Might help to improve the numbers more.

Not much for almost two years now, after a few years of
rehab in which I did weight training. I am up and down
stairs a million times a day, though.

I have a chronic illness that sometimes makes exercise a
very difficult proposition.

I think my numbers are just fine, given my ratios. The
uptick in TGL was due to shorter fast and bad eating for
a few days.

so am curious whether you are overweight.
>
>Thank you.

Slightly, but not a lot.

Susan

[Dr. Andrew B. C]

Susan wrote:
>
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> >
> >Congratulations on your improved >numbers.
>
> > Do you exercise? Might help to improve the numbers
> > more.
>
> Not much for almost two years now, after a few years of
> rehab in which I did weight training. I am up and down
> stairs a million times a day, though.
>
> I have a chronic illness that sometimes makes exercise a
> very difficult proposition.
>
> I think my numbers are just fine, given my ratios. The
> uptick in TGL was due to shorter fast and bad eating for a
> few days.
>
> so am curious whether you are overweight.
> >
> >Thank you.
>
> Slightly, but not a lot.
>
> Susan

Out of curiosity, what is your BMI?

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Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
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