OT: Marlon Brando Dies at 80

[Jmcquown]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movies/07/02/obit.brando/index.html

Jill

[Sam D.]

"jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:KQkFc.3081$vk5.1023@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movies/07/02/obit.brando/-
> index.html

RIP to a very talented actor.

For all the success that he attained, he felt little
fulfillment and for most of his years led a pretty sad life.

[Notbob]

On 2004-07-02, jmcquown <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movies/07/02/obit.brando/-
> index.html
>
> Jill

Of all his rolls, the one that astonished me was as the
effeminete Irish psycho assassin in The Missouri Breaks. I'd
never seen it till years after it was made. But, when I saw
Marlon ..keee-rist! ...what a hoot! He's the only actor I
can recall that made "over the top" work.

nb

[Sf]

On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 17:00:15 -0500, "jmcquown"
<jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movies/07/02/obit.brando-
> /index.html
>
> Jill
>

Do I HAVE TO CARE???? What was his favorite food?

He was 80 and had lung problems... probably from smoking all
of his life (I don't believe it was Pulmonary Fibrosis). He
lived a long and successful life. His death is headline
news, so I don't need to read about it here.

and YES (you're not imagining it), I'm dumping on you
because of all of the previous obits I thought were
frivolous and unmerited for mention here in rfc.

Practice safe eating - always use condiments

[Jmcquown]

sf wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 17:00:15 -0500, "jmcquown"
> <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote: Do I HAVE TO CARE???? What
> was his favorite food?
>
Of course you don't have to care, nor did you have to read
the post ;)

> and YES (you're not imagining it), I'm dumping on you
> because of all of the previous obits I thought were
> frivolous and unmerited for mention here in rfc.
>
Hey, whatever. The only reason I posted it is because of the
other "unmerited" obits recently posted.

Jill (lighting up a cig and hoping to make 80 but not
counting on it)

[Curly Sue]

On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 07:49:22 GMT, sf <sfpipeline@comcast.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 17:00:15 -0500, "jmcquown"
><jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movies/07/02/obit.brand-
>> o/index.html
>>
>> Jill
>
>Do I HAVE TO CARE???? What was his favorite food?
>
>He was 80 and had lung problems... probably from smoking
>all of his life (I don't believe it was Pulmonary
>Fibrosis). He lived a long and successful life. His death
>is headline news, so I don't need to read about it here.
>
>and YES (you're not imagining it), I'm dumping on you
>because of all of the previous obits I thought were
>frivolous and unmerited for mention here in rfc.

When I read about Brando there were no posts here yet. I had
to stifle the impulse to post it because I agree with you
about the non-cooking obits. They don't belong here. (Of
course, I hate the political discussions too.)

Instead, I sent an e-mail to some others who may or may not
have been interested but at least I got it out of my system
and the urge to post passed ;>

(BTW, the rfc obit notice about Cuchulain Libby was in
October 2003).

Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

[Sf]

On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 05:10:37 -0500, "jmcquown"
<jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> The only reason I posted it is because of the other
> "unmerited" obits recently posted.

I forgive you.

Practice safe eating - always use condiments

[Wardna]

>For all the success that he attained, he felt little
>fulfillment and for most of his years led a pretty
>sad life.

He's been called "the best idea for an actor ever." However,
he never really felt content with his talent and tended to
squander, rather than develop it, and projected his
discontent with himself onto The System.

I remember him most as a skillful mimic.

Neil

[Mpoconnor7]

>He's been called "the best idea for an actor ever."
>However, he never really felt content with his talent and
>tended to squander, rather than develop it, and projected
>his discontent with himself onto The System.

I don't think he was the greatest actor ever, but he was
probably the most influential actor ever.

Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man

"The likelihood of one individual being correct increases
in a direct proportion to the intensity with which others
try to prove him wrong" James Mason from the movie "Heaven
Can Wait".

[Jmcquown]

Mpoconnor7 wrote:
>> He's been called "the best idea for an actor ever."
>> However, he never really felt content with his talent and
>> tended to squander, rather than develop it, and projected
>> his discontent with himself onto The System.
>
> I don't think he was the greatest actor ever, but he was
> probably the most influential actor ever.
>
> Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man
>
Oh I doubt that seriously. I posted the obit but can't say I
was overly impressed by him. I think the influential actors
came from the "golden age" of the silver screen - James
Stewart, Clarke Gable, Humphrey Bogart, even James Cagney.
Brando was just *this* side of that era and yes, he made a
mark. But most influential? Who did he influence? I must
have missed something ;)

Jill

[Margaret Suran]

jmcquown wrote:
> Mpoconnor7 wrote:
>
>>>He's been called "the best idea for an actor ever."
>>>However, he never really felt content with his talent and
>>>tended to squander, rather than develop it, and projected
>>>his discontent with himself onto The System.
>>
>>I don't think he was the greatest actor ever, but he was
>>probably the most influential actor ever.
>>
>>Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man
>>
>
> Oh I doubt that seriously. I posted the obit but can't say
> I was overly impressed by him. I think the influential
> actors came from the "golden age" of the silver screen -
> James Stewart, Clarke Gable, Humphrey Bogart, even James
> Cagney. Brando was just *this* side of that era and yes,
> he made a mark. But most influential? Who did he
> influence? I must have missed something ;)
>
> Jill
>
>

And how about Gary Cooper, Gregory Peck and Cary Grant?

[Pennyaline]

"jmcquown" wrote:
> Oh I doubt that seriously. I posted the obit but can't say
> I was overly impressed by him. I think the influential
> actors came from the "golden
age"
> of the silver screen - James Stewart, Clarke Gable,
> Humphrey Bogart, even James Cagney. Brando was just *this*
> side of that era and yes, he made a mark. But most
> influential? Who did he influence? I must have missed
> something ;)

Some feel that his greatest "influence" was his use of the
Method, and that it opened up the business to "every man"
Method performers.

I thought he was a scenery chewer, personally. I never cared
for his work.

[Jmcquown]

Margaret Suran wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> Mpoconnor7 wrote:
>>
>>>> He's been called "the best idea for an actor ever."
(snip)
>>> I don't think he was the greatest actor ever, but he was
>>> probably the most influential actor ever.
>>>
(snip)
>>
>> Oh I doubt that seriously. I posted the obit but can't
>> say I was overly impressed by him. I think the
>> influential actors came from the "golden age" of the
>> silver screen - James Stewart, Clarke Gable, Humphrey
>> Bogart, even James Cagney. Brando was just *this* side of
>> that era and yes, he made a mark. But most influential?
>> Who did he influence? I must have missed something ;)
>>
>> Jill
>>
> And how about Gary Cooper, Gregory Peck and Cary Grant?

Oh but of course! :) Loved all of them!

Jill

[Wardna]

>probably the most influential actor ever.

I doubt if he was more influential than Stanislavski,
Strasberg, or Ciccone.

[Wayne]

mpoconnor7@aol.comnojunk (Mpoconnor7) wrote in
news:20040703082558.19209.00001094@mb-m04.aol.com:

>>He's been called "the best idea for an actor ever."
>>However, he never really felt content with his talent and
>>tended to squander, rather than develop it, and projected
>>his discontent with himself onto The System.
>
> I don't think he was the greatest actor ever, but he was
> probably the most influential actor ever.
>
> Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man

I wouldn't necessarily say most infulential either, but
certainly one of the most noticed.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.

[Sf]

On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 00:33:53 GMT, Wayne <waynebw@att.net>
wrote:

> I wouldn't necessarily say most infulential either, but
> certainly one of the most noticed.

Marlon Brando was the first notable actor to have a
"different style of acting". When he performed on stage in
Streetcar Named Desire (1947), people LOVED what he did...
and it wasn't called method acting in those days.

Stelllllaaaaa!

Practice safe eating - always use condiments

[Wayne]

sf <sfpipeline@comcast.net> wrote in
news:khoee01pbb1lpq3rinjktbe1fulbbtbj8a@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 00:33:53 GMT, Wayne
> <waynebw@att.net> wrote:
>
>> I wouldn't necessarily say most infulential either, but
>> certainly one of the most noticed.
>
> Marlon Brando was the first notable actor to have a
> "different style of acting". When he performed on stage in
> Streetcar Named Desire (1947), people LOVED what he did...
> and it wasn't called method acting in those days.
>
> Stelllllaaaaa!
>
>
> Practice safe eating - always use condiments
>

I know whereof you speak, but it just didn't impress.
Must be me.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.

[Sf]

On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 02:07:30 GMT, Wayne <waynebw@att.net>
wrote:

> sf <sfpipeline@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:khoee01pbb1lpq3rinjktbe1fulbbtbj8a@4ax.com:
>
> > On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 00:33:53 GMT, Wayne
> > <waynebw@att.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I wouldn't necessarily say most infulential either,
> >> but certainly one of the most noticed.
> >
> > Marlon Brando was the first notable actor to have a
> > "different style of acting". When he performed on stage
> > in Streetcar Named Desire (1947), people LOVED what he
> > did... and it wasn't called method acting in those
> > days.
> >
> > Stelllllaaaaa!
> >
> >
> > Practice safe eating - always use condiments
> >
>
> I know whereof you speak, but it just didn't impress.
> Must be me.

Let's put it another way. Before Brando, everyone walked
around reciting their lines with a fake British accent (or
talked through their noses) and called each other
"dahling" a lot.

Practice safe eating - always use condiments

[Wayne]

sf <sfpipeline@comcast.net> wrote in
news:lnege0lrsh02rme1fhub061rgntbq8n3jh@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 02:07:30 GMT, Wayne
> <waynebw@att.net> wrote:
>
>> sf <sfpipeline@comcast.net> wrote in
>> news:khoee01pbb1lpq3rinjktbe1fulbbtbj8a@4ax.com:
>>
>> > On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 00:33:53 GMT, Wayne
>> > <waynebw@att.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I wouldn't necessarily say most infulential either,
>> >> but certainly one of the most noticed.
>> >
>> > Marlon Brando was the first notable actor to have a
>> > "different style of acting". When he performed on
>> > stage in Streetcar Named Desire (1947), people LOVED
>> > what he did... and it wasn't called method acting in
>> > those days.
>> >
>> > Stelllllaaaaa!
>> >
>> >
>> > Practice safe eating - always use condiments
>> >
>>
>> I know whereof you speak, but it just didn't impress.
>> Must be me.
>
> Let's put it another way. Before Brando, everyone walked
> around reciting their lines with a fake British accent (or
> talked through their noses) and called each other
> "dahling" a lot.

I'm not really id disagreement. The Method had many
positive changes in film and stage. I just didn't care for
"his" acting, or perhaps more specifically, I just didn't
care for "him".

--
Wayne in Phoenix

If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.