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BBQ Debate: Charcoal or gas?
As family and friends gather on decks and patios this
holiday weekend to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a
debate may erupt - not about politics or sports, but
charcoal vs. gas.
"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke
flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven
Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and other grilling
cookbooks.
http://enquirer.com/editions/2004/07/03/loc_grill03.html
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Cheers, --Jeff
"Jeff" <no_this_isnt@my_email.com> wrote in message
news:Xns951B5FF574D90Clockwork@69.56.199.58...
> "In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke
> flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven
> Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and other
> grilling cookbooks.
>
I have a gas grill for cold weather and use charcoal
otherwise. Much better flavor.
"Jeff" <no_this_isnt@my_email.com> wrote in message
news:Xns951B5FF574D90Clockwork@69.56.199.58...
> As family and friends gather on decks and patios this
> holiday weekend to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a
> debate may erupt - not about politics or sports, but
> charcoal vs. gas.
>
> "In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke
> flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven
> Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and other
> grilling cookbooks.
It isn't even close for taste. Charcoal is much better.
OTOH, I grill a whole lot more with my gas grill.
Charcoal > Gas but
A lot of gas BBQ > a little charcoal + a lot of oven broiled
Marty
In article <Xns951B5FF574D90Clockwork@69.56.199.58>,
Jeff <no_this_isnt@my_email.com> wrote:
> As family and friends gather on decks and patios this
> holiday weekend to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a
> debate may erupt - not about politics or sports, but
> charcoal vs. gas.
>
> "In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke
> flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven
> Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and other
> grilling cookbooks.
>
> http://enquirer.com/editions/2004/07/03/loc_grill03.html
So what is wrong with a good old fashioned wood fire? :-)
I have TONS of firewood from pruning etc. (plus I landed
a truckload of Pecan wood when they took some trees down
at work) and I find I get a hotter bed of coals off of a
wood fire...
And it tastes mighty good!
K.
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On 3 Jul 2004 06:26:05 -0700, Jeff <no_this_isnt@my_email.com> wrote:
>As family and friends gather on decks and patios this
>holiday weekend to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a
>debate may erupt - not about politics or sports, but
>charcoal vs. gas.
>
>"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke
>flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven
>Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and other
>grilling cookbooks.
>
On 3 Jul 2004 06:26:05 -0700, Jeff
<no_this_isnt@my_email.com> wrote:
>As family and friends gather on decks and patios this
>holiday weekend to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a
>debate may erupt - not about politics or sports, but
>charcoal vs. gas.
>
>"In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke
>flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven
>Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and other
>grilling cookbooks.
People I know who cook in their backyards in the summer are
more interested in things other than whether their grilling
meets up to anyone else's standards of authenticity.
I've never heard such a debate or complaints from guests. I
have a charcoal grill myself, but I do appreciate the
offerings from a gas grill. If I had a gas grill I'd surely
grill more often because of the convenience.
It's my impression that people who write BBQ cookbooks
and/or who have the setup for serious BBQ are the ones
worried about authenticity.
The rest of us don't care. It's not that we couldn't
appreciate it; it's just not a priority. :>
Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!
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ooO Ooo
This is lame trolling. We all know gas is for suburban
yuppies and has nothing to do with real bbq.
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>"Jeff" <no_this_isnt@my_email.com> wrote in message
news:Xns951B5FF574D90Clockwork@69.56.199.58...
> As family and friends gather on decks and patios this
> holiday weekend to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a
> debate may erupt - not about politics or sports, but
> charcoal vs. gas.
>
> "In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke
> flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven
> Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and other
> grilling cookbooks.
>
> http://enquirer.com/editions/2004/07/03/loc_grill03.html
>
> --
> Cheers, --Jeff
"Jeff" <no_this_isnt@my_email.com> wrote in message
news:Xns951B5FF574D90Clockwork@69.56.199.58...
> As family and friends gather on decks and patios this
> holiday weekend to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a
> debate may erupt - not about politics or sports, but
> charcoal vs. gas.
>
> "In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke
> flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven
> Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and other
> grilling cookbooks.
>
> http://enquirer.com/editions/2004/07/03/loc_grill03.html
hickory > charcoal >>>>>>>>>> gas
a.
In article <Xns951B5FF574D90Clockwork@69.56.199.58>, Jeff
<no_this_isnt@my_email.com> wrote:
> As family and friends gather on decks and patios this
> holiday weekend to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a
> debate may erupt - not about politics or sports, but
> charcoal vs. gas.
>
> "In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke
> flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven
> Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and other
> grilling cookbooks.
>
> http://enquirer.com/editions/2004/07/03/loc_grill03.html
Heat is heat.
But smoke is not smoke.
BBQ involves slow cooking over indirect heat at low
temperatures and the smkoe is important.
Typically BBQ involves a remove firebox.
So lets assume you mean grilling, not BBQing. And assume you
mean straight charcoal and no chips to give flavoring via
the smoke.
Charcoal does not add to flavor. In fact, depending on how
you light it, you can get residual bad flavor from lighter
fluid. This is why starting charcoal in a chimneyt is a good
idea. No fluid. But the charcoal itself does not smoke nor
contrubute to flavor.
So if charcoal does not add flavor, what does?
The vaporization of the drippings from the meat and the
charring of the meat from the heat.
Depending on the type of internals, a gas grill can do
grilling the same way as a charcoal grill. It needs to be a
grill that properly vaporizes the drippings.
The huge advantage to a charcoal grill is heat regulation.
Douse coals with water and heat stops. Controlling flareups
on a gas grill can be more difficult, again depending on
the design.
"Jeff" <no_this_isnt@my_email.com> wrote in message
news:Xns951B5FF574D90Clockwork@69.56.199.58...
> As family and friends gather on decks and patios this
> holiday weekend to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a
> debate may erupt - not about politics or sports, but
> charcoal vs. gas.
>
> "In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue smoke
> flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says Steven
> Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and other
> grilling cookbooks.
>
> http://enquirer.com/editions/2004/07/03/loc_grill03.html
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Mr. Wizard wrote:
> "Jeff" <no_this_isnt@my_email.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns951B5FF574D90Clockwork@69.56.199.58...
>
>> "In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue
>> smoke flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says
>> Steven Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and
>> other grilling cookbooks.
>>
> I have a gas grill for cold weather and use charcoal
> otherwise. Much better flavor.
Charcoal >>>>>>>>> gas for grilling.
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StephenJ wrote:
>
> This is lame trolling. We all know gas is for suburban
> yuppies and has nothing to do with real bbq.
You can't really be suburban *and* a yuppie.
nancy
Curly Sue wrote:
> It's my impression that people who write BBQ cookbooks
> and/or who have the setup for serious BBQ are the ones
> worried about authenticity.
And here we have the reason these commercialized, ain't
worth eatin, crap for Q restaurants are springin up all
over the place. Their clientele just don't care what crap
they'll eat.
In article <IvzFc.295$4Z3.19@lakeread02>, StephenJ
<SJirt@sestSJJj.ttcom> wrote:
> "suburban yuppies"
Christian Muslims?
Miami Gators?
yup == young URBAN professionals
In article <030720040950346822%maxfaq@earthlink.net>, Steve Cutchen
<maxfaq@earthlink.net> wrote:
> In article <Xns951B5FF574D90Clockwork@69.56.199.58>, Jeff
> <no_this_isnt@my_email.com> wrote:
>
> > As family and friends gather on decks and patios this
> > holiday weekend to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a
> > debate may erupt - not about politics or sports, but
> > charcoal vs. gas.
> >
> > "In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue
> > smoke flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says
> > Steven Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and
> > other grilling cookbooks.
> >
> > http://enquirer.com/editions/2004/07/03/loc_grill03.html
>
> Heat is heat.
>
> But smoke is not smoke.
>
> BBQ involves slow cooking over indirect heat at low
> temperatures and the smkoe is important.
>
> Typically BBQ involves a remove firebox.
...remote... <sigh>
>
> So lets assume you mean grilling, not BBQing. And assume
> you mean straight charcoal and no chips to give flavoring
> via the smoke.
>
> Charcoal does not add to flavor. In fact, depending on how
> you light it, you can get residual bad flavor from lighter
> fluid. This is why starting charcoal in a chimneyt is a
> good idea. No fluid. But the charcoal itself does not
> smoke nor contrubute to flavor.
>
> So if charcoal does not add flavor, what does?
>
> The vaporization of the drippings from the meat and the
> charring of the meat from the heat.
>
> Depending on the type of internals, a gas grill can do
> grilling the same way as a charcoal grill. It needs to be
> a grill that properly vaporizes the drippings.
>
> The huge advantage to a charcoal grill is heat regulation.
> Douse coals with water and heat stops. Controlling
> flareups on a gas grill can be more difficult, again
> depending on the design.
"Andrew Smith" <anla@nospam.mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:yBzFc.23958$bs4.21343@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> "Jeff" <no_this_isnt@my_email.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns951B5FF574D90Clockwork@69.56.199.58...
> > As family and friends gather on decks and patios this
> > holiday weekend to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a
> > debate may erupt - not about politics or sports, but
> > charcoal vs. gas.
> >
> > "In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue
> > smoke flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says
> > Steven Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and
> > other grilling cookbooks.
> >
> > http://enquirer.com/editions/2004/07/03/loc_grill03.html
>
> hickory > charcoal >>>>>>>>>> gas
>
> a.
>
Pussie>>>>>>BBQ
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> "Jeff" <no_this_isnt@my_email.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns951B5FF574D90Clockwork@69.56.199.58...
>> As family and friends gather on decks and patios this
>> holiday weekend to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a
>> debate may erupt
>> - not about politics or sports, but charcoal vs. gas.
>>
>> "In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue
>> smoke flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says
>> Steven Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and
>> other grilling cookbooks.
>>
>> http://enquirer.com/editions/2004/07/03/loc_grill03.html
>
> debate.
The man's an expret. Wrote a book! I'll believe an expret
before some dumnass Canadian.
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Jefferson N. Glapski (jeffersonWE_ARE@PENN_STATEglapski.com)
opined:
> "Jeff" <no_this_isnt@my_email.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns951B5FF574D90Clockwork@69.56.199.58...
>> As family and friends gather on decks and patios this
>> holiday weekend to eat grilled burgers and chicken, a
>> debate may erupt - not about politics or sports, but
>> charcoal vs. gas.
>>
>> "In order to accomplish the true, authentic barbecue
>> smoke flavor, you have to use a charcoal grill," says
>> Steven Raichlen, author of 'The Barbecue! Bible' and
>> other grilling cookbooks.
>>
>> http://enquirer.com/editions/2004/07/03/loc_grill03.html
>
>
> debate.
>
Preach it Brother Jefferson.
I use lump for grilling and wood for smoking (cherry, maple,
oak, hickory) with some lump tossed in every once in awhile
if I let my fire burn down too low.
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On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 14:50:34 GMT, Steve Cutchen
<maxfaq@earthlink.net> wrote:
> So lets assume you mean grilling, not BBQing. And assume
> you mean straight charcoal and no chips to give flavoring
> via the smoke.
The rest of us call it s-l-o-w cooking... and when invited
never turn up our noses at that kind of Q or offer up
virulent criticism about how they've hyjacked our acroynm.
With that said, we will continue throw our burgers on our
charcoal grills and unabashedly call it bbq.
Practice safe eating - always use condiments
On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 14:50:34 GMT, Steve Cutchen
<maxfaq@earthlink.net> wrote:
> So lets assume you mean grilling, not BBQing. And assume
> you mean straight charcoal and no chips to give flavoring
> via the smoke.
The rest of us call it s-l-o-w cooking... and when invited
never turn up our noses at that kind of Q or offer up
virulent criticism about how they've hyjacked our acroynm.
With that said, we will continue throw our burgers on our
charcoal grills and unabashedly call it bbq.
Practice safe eating - always use condiments
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