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Penmart01
  
Prime Rib From Southern Living Tender and juicy, this roast
is a crowd-pleaser any time of the year. Prime rib is a
showstopper, often the centerpiece of a holiday meal, but
why not enjoy it all year? It's especially delicious when
slow cooked in a smoker and subtly flavored by hickory.

Begin by finding the right roast. The "Prime" in prime rib
actually refers to the USDA grade of the meat, and many
grocery stores don't carry Prime cuts. Instead, look for a
Choice rib roast (also known as a standing rib roast) with
marbling—the white fat that runs through the
meat—distributed as evenly as possible throughout.

Some folks insist that a USDA Prime rib roast is worth the
occasional splurge (and with prices starting around $20 per
pound, it's definitely an indulgence). You can order Prime
meat from butchers such as Niman Ranch or Lobel's. When your
prime rib has finished cooking, two steps will keep the meat
as moist and tender as possible. First, let the roast stand
at least 15 minutes. This prevents the juices from running
out when the meat is cut. Then, when you're ready to serve
the roast, slice across the grain of the meat. This makes
the dish even more tender.

Smoked Prime Rib

Hickory wood chunks 4 garlic cloves, minced 1 tablespoon
salt 2 tablespoons coarsely ground pepper 1 tablespoon dried
rosemary 1 teaspoon dried thyme 1 (6-pound) beef rib roast 1
1/2 cups dry red wine 1 1/2 cups red wine vinegar
1/2 cup olive oil

Soak wood chunks in water 1 hour. Combine minced garlic
and next 4 ingredients, and rub garlic mixture evenly over
beef roast.

Stir together dry red wine, red wine vinegar, and olive oil;
set wine mixture aside.

Prepare charcoal fire in smoker; let burn 15 to 20 minutes.

Drain wood chunks, and place on coals. Place water pan in
smoker, and add water to just below fill line. Place beef
roast in center on lower food rack. Gradually pour wine
mixture over beef roast.

Cook beef roast, covered, 6 hours or until a meat
thermometer inserted into thickest portion of beef roast
registers 145° (medium), adding more water to depth of fill
line, if necessary. Remove beef roast from smoker, and let
stand 15 minutes before slicing.

Southern Living, JULY 2002
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Reg
  
PENMART01 wrote:

> Prime Rib From Southern Living

145 F is overcooked for prime rib. It should be more
like 135 F.

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Steve Wertz
  
On 03 Jul 2004 23:17:42 GMT, penmart01@aol.como (PENMART01) wrote:

>Begin by finding the right roast. The "Prime" in prime rib
>actually refers to the USDA grade of the meat....

Wrong.

-sw

Snapper
  
"PENMART01" <penmart01@aol.como> wrote in message
news:20040703191742.10848.00000709@mb-m25.aol.com...
> Prime Rib From Southern Living Tender and juicy, this
> roast is a crowd-pleaser any time of the year. Prime rib
> is a showstopper, often the centerpiece of a holiday
> meal, but
why
> not enjoy it all year? It's especially delicious when slow
> cooked in a
smoker
> and subtly flavored by hickory.
>
> Begin by finding the right roast. The "Prime" in prime rib
> actually refers
to
> the USDA grade of the meat...

IIRC from culinary school, this is not the case. "Prime Rib"
refers to the cut consisting of the portion between the 6th
and 13th ribs.

Jimlane
  
PENMART01 wrote:

> Cook beef roast, covered, 6 hours or until a meat
> thermometer inserted into thickest portion of beef roast
> registers 145° (medium),

An absolute travesty, medium prime rib.

jim

Mr. Wizard
  
"Steve Wertz" <swertz@cluemail.compost.gov.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 03 Jul 2004 23:17:42 GMT, penmart01@aol.como
> (PENMART01) wrote:
>
> >Begin by finding the right roast. The "Prime" in prime
> >rib actually
refers to
> >the USDA grade of the meat....
>
> Wrong.
>
You are 100% right SW. The prime SECTION of rib lies between
the sixth and twelfth rib.

Bob
  
Snapper wrote:

> "PENMART01" <penmart01@aol.como> wrote in message news:20040703191742.10848.00000709@mb-
> m25.aol.com...
>
>> Prime Rib From Southern Living Tender and juicy, this
>> roast is a crowd-pleaser any time of the year. Prime rib
>> is a showstopper, often the centerpiece of a holiday
>> meal, but why not enjoy it all year? It's especially
>> delicious when slow cooked in a smoker and subtly
>> flavored by hickory.
>>
>> Begin by finding the right roast. The "Prime" in prime
>> rib actually refers to the USDA grade of the meat...
>
> IIRC from culinary school, this is not the case.

Of course it's not the case. It's been cited dozens of times
and ****wit Sheldon learns nothing unless he can find it in
one or another of the books he posts from or plagiarizes.

> "Prime Rib" refers to the cut consisting of the portion
> between the 6th and 13th ribs.

Of course.

But don't worry about it. Sheldon the blustery lackwit
every now and again dumps this same crap in here. He
believes what he believes and no matter the facts, science
or authoritative sources, he keeps on believing what he
already believes.

But, hey, when his name was still Sheldon Katz before he
decided to hide behind a fake name while claiming it was
real, he was in the U.S. Navy as a *cook.* He actually
cooked in the Navy where, back then, the food was the best
in the world. And he was a *cook* in the Navy. An actual
Navy cook and, lucky for him, it took no special previous
training to do that. It was absolutely magical. One day he
was just an ordinary asshole and the next day he was an
asshole with the job of cook. Magic, I tell you. I bet
they cooked a lot of prime rib in those glorious mess
halls... ya think?

I bet he knows the lyrics to the Village People song, "In
the Navy." I can just see him now, fat old fart with a
sailor suit strutting around with his IV holder, slinging a
prime rib and prancing while he breathlessly sings with his
"friends."

"Where can you find pleasure Search the world for treasure
Learn science, technology Where can you begin To make your
dreams all come true On the land or on the sea..."

Yes, he was a "cook" in the Navy. <everybody sing> In
the Navy...

No, seriously...

Pastorio

Janos Petrik
  
"Mr. Wizard" <spacedog@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<5eIFc.10619$Qe2.4542@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>...
> "Steve Wertz" <swertz@cluemail.compost.gov.invalid> wrote
> in message news:mZSdnR-gt7RA2XrdRVn-jw@io.com...
> > On 03 Jul 2004 23:17:42 GMT, penmart01@aol.como
> > (PENMART01) wrote:
> >
> > >Begin by finding the right roast. The "Prime" in prime
> > >rib actually
> refers to
> > >the USDA grade of the meat....
> >
> > Wrong.
> >
> You are 100% right SW. The prime SECTION of rib lies
> between the sixth and twelfth rib.

Prime refers to the USDA grade, not the individual cut.

Anything less than prime is called a "standing rib roast".

Ask any butcher. They can't call "USDA choice" beef "prime",
even though it's a fine grade.

Paul M. Cook©®
  
"Bob (this one)" <Bob@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:10ef3l89j90cp1c@corp.supernews.com...
> Snapper wrote:
>
> > "PENMART01" <penmart01@aol.como> wrote in message news:20040703191742.10848.00000709@mb-
> > m25.aol.com...
> >
> >> Prime Rib From Southern Living Tender and juicy, this
> >> roast is a crowd-pleaser any time of the year. Prime
> >> rib is a showstopper, often the centerpiece of a
> >> holiday meal, but why not enjoy it all year? It's
> >> especially delicious when slow cooked in a smoker and
> >> subtly flavored by hickory.
> >>
> >> Begin by finding the right roast. The "Prime" in prime
> >> rib actually refers to the USDA grade of the meat...
> >
> > IIRC from culinary school, this is not the case.
>
> Of course it's not the case. It's been cited dozens of
> times and ****wit Sheldon learns nothing unless he can
> find it in one or another of the books he posts from or
> plagiarizes.
>
> > "Prime Rib" refers to the cut consisting of the portion
> > between the 6th and 13th ribs.
>
> Of course.
>
> But don't worry about it. Sheldon the blustery lackwit
> every now and again dumps this same crap in here. He
> believes what he believes and no matter the facts, science
> or authoritative sources, he keeps on believing what he
> already believes.
>
> But, hey, when his name was still Sheldon Katz before he
> decided to hide behind a fake name while claiming it was
> real, he was in the U.S. Navy as a *cook.* He actually
> cooked in the Navy where, back then, the food was the best
> in the world. And he was a *cook* in the Navy. An actual
> Navy cook and, lucky for him, it took no special previous
> training to do that. It was absolutely magical. One day he
> was just an ordinary asshole and the next day he was an
> asshole with the job of cook. Magic, I tell you. I bet
> they cooked a lot of prime rib in those glorious mess
> halls... ya think?
>
> I bet he knows the lyrics to the Village People song, "In
> the Navy." I can just see him now, fat old fart with a
> sailor suit strutting around with his IV holder, slinging
> a prime rib and prancing while he breathlessly sings with
> his "friends."
>
> "Where can you find pleasure Search the world for treasure
> Learn science, technology Where can you begin To make your
> dreams all come true On the land or on the sea..."
>
> Yes, he was a "cook" in the Navy. <everybody sing> In
> the Navy...

I loved the way the Muppet Show did that song. With the pigs
all dressed up as Vikings. It was hilarious.

Paul

Mr. Wizard
  
"janos petrik" <janospetrik@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Mr. Wizard" <spacedog@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > "Steve Wertz" <swertz@cluemail.compost.gov.invalid>
> > wrote in message news:mZSdnR-gt7RA2XrdRVn-jw@io.com...
> > > On 03 Jul 2004 23:17:42 GMT, penmart01@aol.como
> > > (PENMART01) wrote:
> > >
> > > >Begin by finding the right roast. The "Prime" in
> > > >prime rib actually
> > refers to
> > > >the USDA grade of the meat....
> > >
> > > Wrong.
> > >
> > You are 100% right SW. The prime SECTION of rib lies
> > between the sixth and twelfth rib.
>
>
> Prime refers to the USDA grade, not the individual cut.
>
> Anything less than prime is called a "standing rib roast".
>
> Ask any butcher. They can't call "USDA choice" beef
> "prime", even though it's a fine grade.
>
Wrong. The term "Prime Rib" was coined by the great Charles
Ranhoffer in 1869 and is expounded upon in his Treatise "The
Epicurean". That is decades before there was a grading
system. Anything other than the mid-section, sixth to
twelfth rib, is a standing rib roast no matter what grade it
is. Anything in front of the sixth rib is the chuck and
anything beyond the twelfth is the loin.

Steve Wertz
  
On 4 Jul 2004 12:55:13 -0700, janospetrik@hotmail.com (janos
petrik) wrote:

>Prime refers to the USDA grade, not the individual cut.

Not in the case of Prime rib. The USDA has been consulted on
this and it's perfectly acceptable to call a select grade
rib roast a prime rib roast.

You're wrong. Accept it.

-sw

Wayne
  
Steve Wertz <swertz@cluemail.compost.gov.invalid> wrote in
news:2vudna4PHtf_F3XdRVn-hA@io.com:

> On 4 Jul 2004 12:55:13 -0700, janospetrik@hotmail.com
> (janos petrik) wrote:
>
>>Prime refers to the USDA grade, not the individual cut.
>
> Not in the case of Prime rib. The USDA has been consulted
> on this and it's perfectly acceptable to call a select
> grade rib roast a prime rib roast.
>
> You're wrong. Accept it.
>
> -sw
>

Knowing this, I always ask the butcher what grade the meat
is. I just like to be sure since it can sometimes influence
cooking method and time. The shops where I usually buy using
the labeling "rib roast" in the case.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.

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