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OLN has decided to have Bob Roll and Al Trautwig call the
majority race during prime time. The Tour now for me has
become unbearable to watch or at least listen to. The
differnce is night and day between the Ligget/Sherwin team
and the TrautRoll team. My wife who has no interest in
cycling whatsoever actualy enjoys watching the tour when
Phil and Paul are calling the race. Roll has his place but,
he certainly should not calling The Tour. My kids, 12 and
13, can't stand it either. We had to finally change the
channel last night.
There is no substitute or replacement for the masters Phil
and Paul. They had a big impact in my decision to get a road
bike(did a lot of mtb before). Just the way they call a race
makes you want to get out and ride. I don't know what OLN is
trying to do. If the format stays I will be watching less of
the Tour this year and OLN.
"Jim Mansfield" <jimmans@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> OLN has decided to have Bob Roll and Al Trautwig call the
> majority race during prime time. The Tour now for me has
> become unbearable to watch or at least listen to. The
> differnce is night and day between the Ligget/Sherwin team
> and the TrautRoll team. My wife who has no interest in
> cycling whatsoever actualy enjoys watching the tour when
> Phil and Paul are calling the race. Roll has his place
> but, he certainly should not calling The Tour. My kids, 12
> and 13, can't stand it either. We had to finally change
> the channel last night.
>
> There is no substitute or replacement for the masters Phil
> and Paul. They had a big impact in my decision to get a
> road bike(did a lot of mtb before). Just the way they call
> a race makes you want to get out and ride. I don't know
> what OLN is trying to do. If the format stays I will be
> watching less of the Tour this year and OLN.
Funny you mention that. I was doing the exact same thing
last night, and my wife (who is like yours when it comes to
biking on TV) said the exact same thing. You guessed it, we
stopped watching. It could be worse, but not much.
Bring back Phil and Paul on primetime!
I'm gonna shoot OLN an e-mail about it ...... see if they will change there format (totally doubt it, but it is worth a shot).
"Jim Mansfield" <jimmans@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> OLN has decided to have Bob Roll and Al Trautwig call the
> majority race during prime time. The Tour now for me has
> become unbearable to watch or at least listen to. The
> differnce is night and day between the Ligget/Sherwin team
> and the TrautRoll team. My wife who has no interest in
> cycling whatsoever actualy enjoys watching the tour when
> Phil and Paul are calling the race. Roll has his place
> but, he certainly should not calling The Tour. My kids, 12
> and 13, can't stand it either. We had to finally change
> the channel last night.
>
> There is no substitute or replacement for the masters Phil
> and Paul. They had a big impact in my decision to get a
> road bike(did a lot of mtb before). Just the way they call
> a race makes you want to get out and ride. I don't know
> what OLN is trying to do. If the format stays I will be
> watching less of the Tour this year and OLN.
OLN is trying to serve two audiences. Fire up the TIVO or
VCR for the morning coverage. (Benefit- skip very very long
commercials) I suspect most people who live or lurk here
can't stomach the Al and Bob duo. Unfortunately non-cyclists
don't seem to like it much either. It will be interesting to
see if any adjustments are made to the coverage a the race
goes on. Three weeks is a long time. Bill
>Fire up the TIVO or VCR for the morning coverage. (Benefit-
>skip very very long commercials) I suspect most people who
>live or lurk here can't stomach the Al and Bob duo.
Gos bless TIVO!!
Bob Roll get paid 1$ every tiem he said Lance or Armstrong
or USPOSTAL. On top of that he get a hard on every time he
mentions it too. Buffons
The best is Paul Sherwen.
THANK YOU!!! I was thinking the exact same thing. Bob Roll
is horrible at calling the action. Half the fun of watching
the tour is listening to Ligget. Now I'm tuning in mornings
instead of evenings.
"Jim Mansfield" <jimmans@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> OLN has decided to have Bob Roll and Al Trautwig call the
> majority race during prime time. The Tour now for me has
> become unbearable to watch or at least listen to. The
> differnce is night and day between the Ligget/Sherwin team
> and the TrautRoll team. My wife who has no interest in
> cycling whatsoever actualy enjoys watching the tour when
> Phil and Paul are calling the race. Roll has his place
> but, he certainly should not calling The Tour. My kids, 12
> and 13, can't stand it either. We had to finally change
> the channel last night.
>
> There is no substitute or replacement for the masters Phil
> and Paul. They had a big impact in my decision to get a
> road bike(did a lot of mtb before). Just the way they call
> a race makes you want to get out and ride. I don't know
> what OLN is trying to do. If the format stays I will be
> watching less of the Tour this year and OLN.
Let's let OLN know how we feel:
http://www.olntv.com/feedback.asp
"Jim Mansfield" <jimmans@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ed9b13be.0407060942.2e7c3819@posting.google.com...
> OLN has decided to have Bob Roll and Al Trautwig call the
> majority race during prime time. The Tour now for me has
> become unbearable to watch or at least listen to. The
> differnce is night and day between the Ligget/Sherwin team
> and the TrautRoll team. My wife who has no interest in
> cycling whatsoever actualy enjoys watching the tour when
> Phil and Paul are calling the race. Roll has his place
> but, he certainly should not calling The Tour. My kids, 12
> and 13, can't stand it either. We had to finally change
> the channel last night.
>
> There is no substitute or replacement for the masters Phil
> and Paul. They had a big impact in my decision to get a
> road bike(did a lot of mtb before). Just the way they call
> a race makes you want to get out and ride. I don't know
> what OLN is trying to do. If the format stays I will be
> watching less of the Tour this year and OLN.
On 6 Jul 2004 10:42:00 -0700, jimmans@hotmail.com (Jim Mansfield)
wrote:
>OLN has decided to have Bob Roll and Al Trautwig call the
>majority race during prime time. The Tour now for me has
>become unbearable to watch or at least listen to. The
>differnce is night and day between the Ligget/Sherwin team
>and the TrautRoll team. My wife who has no interest in
>cycling whatsoever actualy enjoys watching the tour when
>Phil and Paul are calling the race. Roll has his place but,
>he certainly should not calling The Tour. My kids, 12 and
>13, can't stand it either. We had to finally change the
>channel last night.
>
>There is no substitute or replacement for the masters Phil
>and Paul. They had a big impact in my decision to get a
>road bike(did a lot of mtb before). Just the way they call
>a race makes you want to get out and ride. I don't know
>what OLN is trying to do. If the format stays I will be
>watching less of the Tour this year and OLN.
Thanks for telling us this.
JT
jimmans@hotmail.com (Jim Mansfield) wrote...
> OLN has decided to have Bob Roll and Al Trautwig call the
> majority race during prime time. The Tour now for me has
> become unbearable to watch or at least listen to. The
> differnce is night and day between the Ligget/Sherwin team
> and the TrautRoll team. My wife who has no interest in
> cycling whatsoever actualy enjoys watching the tour when
> Phil and Paul are calling the race. Roll has his place
> but, he certainly should not calling The Tour. My kids, 12
> and 13, can't stand it either. We had to finally change
> the channel last night. There is no substitute or
> replacement for the masters Phil and Paul. They had a big
> impact in my decision to get a road bike(did a lot of mtb
> before). Just the way they call a race makes you want to
> get out and ride. I don't know what OLN is trying to do.
> If the format stays I will be watching less of the Tour
> this year and OLN.
Wow, aren't we spoiled by all this "poor" coverage you poor
boy.
How loud did you scream before 1998 when ESPN covered the
race with ABC (and CBS even) so excellently.
Pathetic man, really pathetic whining from you. YOU SHOULD
have it so good.
Not.
-KJP
I was thinking that I like Bob Roll a lot better when I
don't have to watch him waiving his hands around, so I
didn't mind his commentary at all.
"Jim Mansfield" <jimmans@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ed9b13be.0407060942.2e7c3819@posting.google.com...
> OLN has decided to have Bob Roll and Al Trautwig call the
> majority race during prime time. The Tour now for me has
> become unbearable to watch or at least listen to. The
> differnce is night and day between the Ligget/Sherwin team
> and the TrautRoll team. My wife who has no interest in
> cycling whatsoever actualy enjoys watching the tour when
> Phil and Paul are calling the race. Roll has his place
> but, he certainly should not calling The Tour. My kids, 12
> and 13, can't stand it either. We had to finally change
> the channel last night.
>
> There is no substitute or replacement for the masters Phil
> and Paul. They had a big impact in my decision to get a
> road bike(did a lot of mtb before). Just the way they call
> a race makes you want to get out and ride. I don't know
> what OLN is trying to do. If the format stays I will be
> watching less of the Tour this year and OLN.
"K. J. Papai" <ken@kenpapai.com> wrote in message
news:6100cab2.0407061524.7672aa4f@posting.google.com...>
Wow, aren't we spoiled by all this "poor" coverage you poor
boy.
>
> How loud did you scream before 1998 when ESPN covered the
> race with ABC (and CBS even) so excellently.
>
> Pathetic man, really pathetic whining from you. YOU SHOULD
> have it so good. Not. -KJP
I definitely don't miss the days when it was thrilling to
get 30 minutes of bike coverage on ESPN just before nine-
ball and right after bull riding.
Mike
Did anyone else hear Al Troutwig ask this question to S.
Crow about Lance and her "When the fans are gone and cameras
are off, What is it like just you and him or somebody else?
What is he talking about a 3-some? Seriously, I am not sure
what he was trying to say but it sure came out wrong!
Jim Mansfield wrote:
> OLN has decided to have Bob Roll and Al Trautwig call the
> majority race during prime time. The Tour now for me has
> become unbearable to watch or at least listen to. The
> differnce is night and day between the Ligget/Sherwin team
> and the TrautRoll team. My wife who has no interest in
> cycling whatsoever actualy enjoys watching the tour when
> Phil and Paul are calling the race. Roll has his place
> but, he certainly should not calling The Tour. My kids, 12
> and 13, can't stand it either. We had to finally change
> the channel last night.
>
> There is no substitute or replacement for the masters Phil
> and Paul. They had a big impact in my decision to get a
> road bike(did a lot of mtb before). Just the way they call
> a race makes you want to get out and ride. I don't know
> what OLN is trying to do. If the format stays I will be
> watching less of the Tour this year and OLN.
I actually like the Roll/Trautwig team. Roll dumbs down the
color without patronizing. Trautwig sounds like a pro
announcer with enough cycling knowledge.
But I also have the advantage of watching the Tour much of
each day. I see each stage at least 1-1/2 times, so I get
plenty of P&P too.
Too bad about the old mortgage though.
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"K. J. Papai" <ken@kenpapai.com> wrote in message
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> jimmans@hotmail.com (Jim Mansfield) wrote...
> > OLN has decided to have Bob Roll and Al Trautwig call
> > the majority race during prime time. The Tour now for me
> > has become unbearable to watch or at least listen to.
> > The differnce is night and day between the
> > Ligget/Sherwin team and the TrautRoll team. My wife who
> > has no interest in cycling whatsoever actualy enjoys
> > watching the tour when Phil and Paul are calling the
> > race. Roll has his place but, he certainly should not
> > calling The Tour. My kids, 12 and 13, can't stand it
> > either. We had to finally change the channel last night.
> > There is no substitute or replacement for the masters
> > Phil and Paul. They had a big impact in my decision to
> > get a road bike(did a lot of mtb before). Just the way
> > they call a race makes you want to get out and ride. I
> > don't know what OLN is trying to do. If the format stays
> > I will be watching less of the Tour this year and OLN.
>
> Wow, aren't we spoiled by all this "poor" coverage you
> poor boy.
>
> How loud did you scream before 1998 when ESPN covered the
> race with ABC (and CBS even) so excellently.
>
> Pathetic man, really pathetic whining from you. YOU SHOULD
> have it so good.
No kidding Pappy, funny that cycling fans would even
consider turning the channel, Please, give me a break. Roll
is in a different role with Al. Roll is actually not bad
sometimes when he is paired with Phil and Paul. Phil and
Paul are excellent for the fine points during the race. Al
and Bob are more the funny crew who crack jokes and give a
semi-serious view of the tour without the fine points. It
serves those who want the fast take on the tour as where
Phil and Paul serves the more devoted cycling fanatics who
want all the details. I like both for now, I have seen much
worse over the years. OLN for the most part do a bang up
job. Anyone who says they can't stand it and need to change
the channel shouldn't be watching it anyway. Go watch some
Sci-fi movies. TCM had a run on them the other nights. That
really takes the cake alright.
Adrian Karsten "That other dude" (Varga? Vargas?)
Kirsten Gum
Bob and Al sounding better now?
"Jim Mansfield" <jimmans@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ed9b13be.0407060942.2e7c3819@posting.google.com...
> OLN has decided to have Bob Roll and Al Trautwig call the
> majority race during prime time. The Tour now for me has
> become unbearable to watch or at least listen to. The
> differnce is night and day between the Ligget/Sherwin team
> and the TrautRoll team. My wife who has no interest in
> cycling whatsoever actualy enjoys watching the tour when
> Phil and Paul are calling the race. Roll has his place
> but, he certainly should not calling The Tour. My kids, 12
> and 13, can't stand it either. We had to finally change
> the channel last night.
>
> There is no substitute or replacement for the masters Phil
> and Paul. They had a big impact in my decision to get a
> road bike(did a lot of mtb before). Just the way they call
> a race makes you want to get out and ride. I don't know
> what OLN is trying to do. If the format stays I will be
> watching less of the Tour this year and OLN.
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Last night " riders must "liquidate" frequently to make sure
they have enough fluids.
Well Lance et al liquidated Mayo
Grumpy G
> Wow, aren't we spoiled by all this "poor" coverage you
> poor boy.
>
> How loud did you scream before 1998 when ESPN covered the
> race with ABC (and CBS even) so excellently.
>
> Pathetic man, really pathetic whining from you. YOU SHOULD
> have it so good.
I guess I am spoiled. I got into road biking in 2001.
Ligget/Sherwin and OLN are all I know when it comes to
calling a bike race. Phil and Paul help promote the sport
just by having the talent to call a bike race well. In my
opinion, non-cyclists will be more inclined to watch the
Tour with Ligget/sherwin behind the mic and possibly get
into the sport as I did three years ago. Phil and Paul = one
less car. Roll and Trautwig = traffic jams.
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