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Variable quality Shimano
Just got a 7 spd HG70 cassette in the post today, all bolted
together no nasty rivets, in a box, with destructions as
well. Curiouser and curiouser, unless it is very old stock.
Has anyone bought a bolt together cassette recently?
MartinM wrote:
> Just got a 7 spd HG70 cassette in the post today, all
> bolted together no nasty rivets, in a box, with
> destructions as well. Curiouser and curiouser, unless it
> is very old stock. Has anyone bought a bolt together
> cassette recently?
Yes, two of them. Both 9-speed. I don't know what the deal
is; I got one riveted one by accident a while back - it
was a lightweight one - but all the others have been
bolted. Odd.
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Originally posted by Martinm
Just got a 7 spd HG70 cassette in the post today, all bolted
together no nasty rivets, in a box, with destructions as
well. Curiouser and curiouser, unless it is very old stock.
Has anyone bought a bolt together cassette recently?
I got a 105 bolted together 9 speed one a few months ago, I also got a LX one which was rivetted, not anymore though.
"MartinM" <Martinm2@wcms.org.uk> wrote in message
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> Just got a 7 spd HG70 cassette in the post today, all
> bolted together no nasty rivets, in a box, with
> destructions as well. Curiouser and curiouser, unless it
> is very old stock. Has anyone bought a bolt together
> cassette recently?
Got a 7 speed HG70 a few months ago (maybe 6) from EBC.
Nicely bolted thankyou. I think I've missed a thread here -
should I expect new stock to be rivetted?
tony R.
"tony R" <hesiod3@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<OCbHc.4147$Z14.5120@news.indigo.ie>...
> "MartinM" <Martinm2@wcms.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:3cf5c6dc.0407080304.65bbb442@posting.google.com...
> > Just got a 7 spd HG70 cassette in the post today, all
> > bolted together no nasty rivets, in a box, with
> > destructions as well. Curiouser and curiouser, unless it
> > is very old stock. Has anyone bought a bolt together
> > cassette recently?
>
> Got a 7 speed HG70 a few months ago (maybe 6) from EBC.
> Nicely bolted thankyou. I think I've missed a thread here
> - should I expect new stock to be rivetted?
Yes the thread started ealier in the year, it seems that
some suppliers are selling genuine upper range Shimano
stuff, but not in proper packaging and riveted rather than
bolted, and it's not just that Shimano have stopped doing
the proper bolted stuff; so look out for supposed mail order
bargain kit (even though mine was the cheapest on the web) A
similar thing happens with model train sets, the locomotives
and coaches in the sets are generally moulded rather than
painted plastic and plastic rather than steel wheels to keep
costs down.
MartinM Martinm2@wcms.org.uk opined the following...
> Yes the thread started ealier in the year, it seems that
> some suppliers are selling genuine upper range Shimano
> stuff, but not in proper packaging and riveted rather than
> bolted, and it's not just that Shimano have stopped doing
> the proper bolted stuff; so look out for supposed mail
> order bargain kit (even though mine was the cheapest on
> the web) A similar thing happens with model train sets,
> the locomotives and coaches in the sets are generally
> moulded rather than painted plastic and plastic rather
> than steel wheels to keep costs down.
Wiggle claim all Shimano gear is genuine and not grey
imports. Has anyone recieved rivetted stuff from them?
Jon
"tony R" <hesiod3@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<OCbHc.4147
I think I've missed a thread here I'm afraid I'm still in
stone age google/groups/cycling so when I add to an old
thread it pulls the old one up, haven't fathomed
configuring OE to a newsreader yet, I got as far as _enter
the NNTP server address_ which I don't know ;-~
In news:3cf5c6dc.0407081038.6425b4eb@posting.google.com,
MartinM <Martinm2@wcms.org.uk> typed:
> "tony R" <hesiod3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<OCbHc.4147
>
> I think I've missed a thread here I'm afraid I'm still in
> stone age google/groups/cycling so when I add to an old
> thread it pulls the old one up, haven't fathomed
> configuring OE to a newsreader yet, I got as far as
> _enter the NNTP server address_ which I don't know ;-~
news.individual.net
See http://www.individual.net/register.html for details,
email your full name and email address to news-
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Should sort you out.
Ambrose and go to http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-
quotefix/ and download OE-quotefix, and all shoul be
happy and well.
"MartinM" <Martinm2@wcms.org.uk> wrote in message
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> "tony R" <hesiod3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > "MartinM" <Martinm2@wcms.org.uk> wrote in message
> > news:3cf5c6dc.0407080304.65bbb442@posting.google.com...
> > > Just got a 7 spd HG70 cassette in the post today, all
> > > bolted together no nasty rivets, in a box, with
> > > destructions as well. Curiouser and curiouser, unless
> > > it is very old stock. Has anyone bought a bolt
> > > together cassette recently?
> >
> > Got a 7 speed HG70 a few months ago (maybe 6) from EBC.
> > Nicely bolted thankyou. I think I've missed a thread
> > here - should I expect new stock
to
> > be rivetted?
>
> Yes the thread started ealier in the year, it seems that
> some suppliers are selling genuine upper range Shimano
> stuff, but not in proper packaging and riveted rather than
> bolted, and it's not just that Shimano have stopped doing
> the proper bolted stuff; so look out for supposed mail
> order bargain kit (even though mine was the cheapest on
> the web)
Right. So we're saying here that Shimano are making two
versions of the same model of stuff and then retailers are
selling whichever version they've got without
differentiating at all between the two. Is that right? If so
it should be pretty easy for urc to build up a list of which
retailers are selling which stuff. I can say that (a few
months ago at least) Edinburgh Bike Co-op were selling the
proper stuff. And I have, this very day, ordered two
cassettes from Settle Cycles - so, in a while (!), I'll be
able to tell you what they're selling.
tony R.
"tony R" <hesiod3@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3liHc.4180$Z14.5051@news.indigo.ie>...
> "MartinM" <Martinm2@wcms.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:3cf5c6dc.0407080958.27c841a2@posting.google.com...
> > "tony R" <hesiod3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<OCbHc.4147$Z14.5120@news.indigo.ie>...
> > > "MartinM" <Martinm2@wcms.org.uk> wrote in message new-
> > > s:3cf5c6dc.0407080304.65bbb442@posting.google.com...
> > > > Just got a 7 spd HG70 cassette in the post today,
> > > > all bolted together no nasty rivets, in a box, with
> > > > destructions as well. Curiouser and curiouser,
> > > > unless it is very old stock. Has anyone bought a
> > > > bolt together cassette recently?
> > >
> > > Got a 7 speed HG70 a few months ago (maybe 6) from
> > > EBC. Nicely bolted thankyou. I think I've missed a
> > > thread here - should I expect new stock
> to
> > > be rivetted?
> >
> > Yes the thread started ealier in the year, it seems that
> > some suppliers are selling genuine upper range Shimano
> > stuff, but not in proper packaging and riveted rather
> > than bolted, and it's not just that Shimano have stopped
> > doing the proper bolted stuff; so look out for supposed
> > mail order bargain kit (even though mine was the
> > cheapest on the web)
>
> Right. So we're saying here that Shimano are making two
> versions of the same model of stuff and then retailers are
> selling whichever version they've got without
> differentiating at all between the two. Is that right? If
> so it should be pretty easy for urc to build up a list of
> which retailers are selling which stuff. I can say that (a
> few months ago at least) Edinburgh Bike Co-op were selling
> the proper stuff. And I have, this very day, ordered two
> cassettes from Settle Cycles - so, in a while (!), I'll be
> able to tell you what they're selling.
I got my 7 speed bolted from Settle, the one that was
riveted and in a poxy plastic bag was a HG70 12-21 8 speed
(Ribble I think)
"MartinM" <Martinm2@wcms.org.uk> wrote in message
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> I got my 7 speed bolted from Settle, the one that was
> riveted and in a poxy plastic bag was a HG70 12-21 8 speed
> (Ribble I think)
The HG50 12-21 8 speed I got from settle last year and from
expedia a couple of years back were all bolted. The bolts
were the 2mm allen key ones, so may have looked like rivets
- is anybody making this mistake?
cheers, clive
> "MartinM" <Martinm2@wcms.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:3cf5c6dc.0407090012.26217967@posting.google.com...
>
> > I got my 7 speed bolted from Settle, the one that was
> > riveted and in a poxy plastic bag was a HG70 12-21 8
> > speed (Ribble I think)
>
> The HG50 12-21 8 speed I got from settle last year and
> from expedia a couple of years back were all bolted. The
> bolts were the 2mm allen key ones, so may have looked like
> rivets - is anybody making this mistake?
No they were rivets, and on a HG70 to boot, bad karmagram on
it's way to Preston!
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> In news:3cf5c6dc.0407081038.6425b4eb@posting.google.com,
> MartinM <Martinm2@wcms.org.uk> typed:
> > "tony R" <hesiod3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:<OCbHc.4147
> >
> > I think I've missed a thread here I'm afraid I'm still
> > in stone age google/groups/cycling so when I add to an
> > old thread it pulls the old one up, haven't fathomed
> > configuring OE to a newsreader yet, I got as far as
> > _enter the NNTP server address_ which I don't know ;-~
>
> news.individual.net
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> email your full name and email address to news-
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think I'll stick to reading off the web thanks
In news:3cf5c6dc.0407091052.8d770e5@posting.google.com,
MartinM <Martinm2@wcms.org.uk> typed:
> "Ambrose Nankivell"
> <$FirstnameInitialofSurname$@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<2l5mjhF8k45oU1@uni-berlin.de>...
>> In news:3cf5c6dc.0407081038.6425b4eb@posting.google.com,
>> MartinM <Martinm2@wcms.org.uk> typed:
>>> "tony R" <hesiod3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:<OCbHc.4147
>>>
>>> I think I've missed a thread here I'm afraid I'm still
>>> in stone age google/groups/cycling so when I add to an
>>> old thread it pulls the old one up, haven't fathomed
>>> configuring OE to a newsreader yet, I got as far as
>>> _enter the NNTP server address_ which I don't know ;-~
>>
>> news.individual.net
>>
>> See http://www.individual.net/register.html for details,
>> email your full name and email address to news-
>> register@individual.net
>>
>> Should sort you out
>
> or not!
>
> 480 Authentication required.
>
> Configuration: Account: news.individual.net Server:
> news.individual.net Protocol: NNTP
>
> think I'll stick to reading off the web thanks
Sorry, I didn't make it clear I was posting the registration
link for news.individual.net .
Also http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.rec.cycling is
quite a nice link, as it keeps track of what you've read,
people's replies, and other nice stuff.
Ambrose
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